Will Urban Meyer be caught in another tangle of lies with recruits?

Submitted by wresler120 on

We all know what Kind of person Urban Meyer really is ... he has been caught lying to recruits plenty of times in the past ... he was known for oversigning classes, and then screwing some recruits over at the very end .. and the University of Florida committed the most ncaa violations ever in the history of their program, under Urban Meyer.

We also know he has been out there selling recruits on the fact that he was assurred no more penalties would be handed down, which Bri'onte Dunn also backed in an interview after he confirmed his commitment to Ohio State. But, today Meyer issued this statement:

"I just did a lot of research. I contacted people outside of Ohio State before I accepted the position and I wanted to hear from some trusted people that I have within the NCAA and other people who dealt directly with the NCAA," Meyer said. "It came back--- I wouldn't use the word 'assurance,' because who knows? -- but when you start talking about the overall integrity of the institution, it's a positive. There were some mistakes made that were serious. I haven't had any assurance about what's going to happen."

To me this totally goes back on what he has stated to the current recruits that he has been able to keep at Ohio State, or flip their commitment to Meyer.

I have read that Meyer, in the past, was caught in many recruiting lies which include:

1. Telling Jevan Snead he was recruiting Tim Tebow as a Linebacker. He and his family were assured of this on numerous occassions. It never came out until they spoke with one another and Tebow stated he was assured he was being recruited as a qb. Once they both confronted Meyer he came out and said both were being recruited at qb . Snead then decommitted.

2. Florida was ready to accept the commitment of Patrick Johnson ... although they thought the test score submitted was bogus. When he chose LSU over Florida Meyer immediately had the school flag his test scores, and the LSU compliance dept. was put on notice. The ACT score was eemed legit and Johsnon was able to attend LSU on time.

3. Meyer was recruiting Stonum very hard at the same time Michigan was and Meyer confronted Stonum with some news he said was important. He stated he talked to Coach Carr and Coach Soup, and both had told Meyer that Stonum was a better fit for the Florida spread. Stonum thought he was being sold out by the very coaches who had recuited him to Michigan.

4. The Pouncey's originally committed to FSU and claimed to be lifelong FSU fans. Shortly thereafter they flipped their commitment. This also occured with Percy Harvin, yet he never committed to FSU, just proclaimed to be a lifelong FSU fan. It wasn't until after college in an interview with the Pouncey's did this came out and they admitted all of the Lifelong FSU fan stuff was garbage, and they were all lifelong Florida fans, including Harvin. Meyer wanted them to say this so it would look like he was tearing down FSU, and it would appear this way to future FSU recruits.

5. A famous Urban Meyer quote "But what I didn't want to have happen, and I made this clear to Jeremy (Florida AD), if I am able to go coach, I want to coach at one place, the University of Florida. It would be a travesty, it would be ridiculous to all of a sudden come back and get the feeling back, get the health back, feel good again and then all of a sudden go throw some other colors on my shirt and go coach? I don't want to do that. I have too much love for this University and these players and for what we've built."

There are plenty more sneaky scumbag tactics and quotes out there regarding Urban Meyer .... and we all kow Florida hates him. Could he be exposed this quickly at Ohio State? Can the University get slammed and it come sout immediately that once again Meyer was lying to recuits when he stated he was assured nothing further will happen? In my eyes he admitted to lying today when he satted he hasn't been assured. It's 50/50 for him today. He either gets exposed and then has to try to lie to recruits to get out of the mess, but with his quote today that will be difficult to do. Or, he gets lucky, and nothing further happens. Then he can tell the recruits he knew that all along, and oly told the media he wasn't assured, because the University asked him to do so.

Fingers crossed they get ham,mered and he gets exposed before his career even begins.

 

If you have some more known sleazy tactics Meyer has been caught using before feel free to share them with us .......... lets hope it all unfolds at 3 PM.

 

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/16527292/ncaa-to-hand-down-final-ohio-state-sanctions-tuesday

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wresler120

December 20th, 2011 at 1:19 PM ^

Anything can happen. I love the fact that if it comes down big ... it's coming down Huge and at least Urban Meyer will be caught up in the decision ... based solely on what he has been out claiming. He can quickly be caught up big time based on what he has told recruits, and what he said today.

 

I'm still not convinced that nothing is going to happen ... I truly believe the University does not truly know.

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Bb011

December 20th, 2011 at 1:23 PM ^

I see what your saying, but I really don't think Meyer would have lied to recruits when he knew that he would know of the sanctions on december 20th (before signing day). If it was after signing day then yes, I could see him lying. I really do think that he knew nothing would happen and that is why he said it.

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Skapanza

December 20th, 2011 at 1:48 PM ^

It seems to me that coaches (especially the "win at all costs" types like Meyer, Saban, Tressel) will say anything they can to get what they want in the short term, regardless of the consequences, either for themselves, their institutions, and the players who are making life-altering decisions based on their statements.

Getting Brionte Dunn to reaffrim his commitment gave Meyer some nice publicity and spin, and these other commitments have people in Ohio salivating. That's what Meyer needs now. If there's bad news at 3, then at least for a while he had positive pub in Cbus.

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The Baughz

December 20th, 2011 at 1:34 PM ^

Dont want to start a new thread, but Joe schad just tweeted "dont be surprised if the ncaa sends another message by giving osu a post-season bowl ban and a show cause for Tressel"..,obviously take this with a grain of salt but this news does not suck.

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Wolverine1414

December 20th, 2011 at 1:22 PM ^

Sad that all of those personal relationships between that school in Ohio's administration and the NCAA might hand them a get out of jail free card.  I only hope that USC sues the crap out of the NCAA and it turns into media mess (I don't expect this given the timing).  Oh well, let's just beat them on the field.

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htownwolverine

December 20th, 2011 at 1:21 PM ^

NCAA is releasing the findings to the media at 2:00PM est and asking for a media blackout (HAHAHAHAHA) until their official 3:00PM press conf.

Any guess on this will go? Who will be the first media member to leak? I betting on SportsByBrooks or Ace Williams.

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LSAClassOf2000

December 20th, 2011 at 1:30 PM ^

The OP has demonstrated that Urban Meyer fits the mold perfectly in Ohio. All this being the case, there aren't many better fits in that culture. Still, in this case, he doesn't necessarily look foolish unless some serious you-know-what hits the fan if, in fact, he has told Ohio recruits otherwise.

As for sanctions, I imagine that they get sent to their room to think about what they did, only for Delany to walk in an hour later and give them some warped Ward Cleaver-style talk and a pat on the back. We'll find out for sure in just over 90 minutes, of course.

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96goblue00

December 20th, 2011 at 1:29 PM ^

Otherwise, if it's minor stuff, all will be ok in the eyes of the recruits. He pretty much told them that "nothing major" will happen. If they get a few scholarships taken away, "probation" (which generally equals nada, nothing, zero, zip, zilch in terms of punishment), then he won't really have to answer anyone. He knows people on the inside. They talked, I am sure. I don't think he would come to coach at OSU if he knew the hammer was coming down on the program.

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BRCE

December 20th, 2011 at 1:32 PM ^

Are there links for these stories? I've never heard about any of them besides being familiar with the quote in #5. Seems like we would have known about the Stonum story...

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O Fo Sho

December 20th, 2011 at 1:34 PM ^

that our opinions are important.  We need to unite and not watch anymore college football or attend anymore games until they show us they are dealing everyone a fair hand.  We'll hit 'em where it hurts, the wallet!  Who's with me?!?!!? **crickets**

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bluebyyou

December 20th, 2011 at 1:34 PM ^

I have no love for Meyer either but the statement about Florida's oversiging seems to be a bit of an exaggeration as noted below:

The president of the University of Florida came out strongly against oversigning last February:

http://www.teamspeedkills.com/2011/2/1/1967976/florida-president-bernie-machen-blasts-oversigning-grayshirting

Florida, between 2002 and 2010 was third from the bottom of the SEC in the number of recruits signed.

http://oversigning.com/testing/index.php/recruiting-numbers/

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mGrowOld

December 20th, 2011 at 1:36 PM ^

Hey Mods!

When is my Urban Meyer scheduled post time again?  I know we need to have a new one up on the board every 15 minutes and I don't want to miss my slot like I did during the MSU is bitching about us going to a BCS game post-a-thon.

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GoBluePhil

December 20th, 2011 at 1:41 PM ^

that USC is planning to sue the NCAA if tsio doesn't get equal or harsher treatment than what they received. This type of lawsuit would expose the NCAA for what it truly is, a lying, untrustworthy, no backbone, gutless, no account, body of scum.

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PburgGoBlue

December 20th, 2011 at 1:47 PM ^

I remember at BGSU when I was a student and he was the Coach. He said, granted it's BGSU, that he plans on being here for a while. THe next morning he was on a flight out to Utah. Dude is slimey.

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SanFrancisco_W…

December 20th, 2011 at 1:49 PM ^

The more I think about this and the more I listen to The Fan down here in Columbus, the more I think there is a veiled sense of nervousness.  Most are saying nothing will happen, yet it's very cautious.  The talk radio guys are actually thinking it might not be a bad thing to get a year bowl ban, and even saying they deserve it.  The delusional Ohio fans think that getting rid of Tressel and suspending the players was enough, but these guys on the radio are actually showing some smarts.  They mentioned that there were more allegation after Tressel left and if the NCAA acknowledges this as the FTM instead of Tressel's regime, it could be pretty harsh.

 

FWIW, the reason they want the one year bowl ban is because they think if they get that then there will a much less chance of getting hit with severe scholarship reductions.

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tho0505

December 20th, 2011 at 1:54 PM ^

I agree with a lot of the stuff you posted, but several points are complete spectulation and is probably down right a lie.    This thread is just sleazy and classless in its self.

 

That being said, I agree that Urban makes left field comments and promises that he doesn't keep.   Urban is just a fad that these recruits are blown away with. The fairtale will end soon enough, with or without major violations added on (which SHOULD be the case).  

 

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Wolverman

December 20th, 2011 at 2:00 PM ^

 Considering Ohio has been hit with a failure to monitor , multiple charges of lying to the ncaa and a repeat offender I don't see how folks think they will get off with their self imposed sanctions. Considering most of this came out around the Sugar Bowl last year and Ohio duped the Ncaa I think we'll see a bowl ban 1-2 years and another 15 scholarships over that 3 year period.

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KC Wolve

December 20th, 2011 at 2:31 PM ^

Still amazed he would jump the gun by a month and tell recruits nothing would happen. The benefit was nowhere near the cost if he was wrong. I guess we will see what the repercussions of his lying are.

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FrankMurphy

December 20th, 2011 at 2:57 PM ^

I'm not sure that's accurate. I don't think Florida committed any major NCAA violations under Meyer. You're probably thinking of arrests; Meyer's teams averaged five arrests a year over his tenure there.

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True Blue Grit

December 20th, 2011 at 2:57 PM ^

that Meyer is a pathological liar who will say almost anything to get a top recruit.  It's really a shame that more players and their parents don't see through his slimy, glib, polished shell. 

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Tater

December 20th, 2011 at 3:54 PM ^

Meyer will be able to lie and backtrack, and most of his recruits will fall for his line of shit.  He's lucky he won national championships at Florida, because it would be great if someone blew the whistle on some of the things he did there.  

 I still think our best hope is that he turns out to be the coach who quit on his team twice and not the one capable of winning national championships.  He gets a free ride next year thanks to the probation, and the only thing he will be expected to do is win the Buckeye Super Bowl in November.  

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