any and all B10 teams in the tourney, except possibly IU.
Will there be more M or MSU fans at the Palace? Will you boo MSU if you go?
It would reflect poorly on the B1G if we were talked up all year as the best conference in college basketball, only to be shut out of the Final Four or something.
Crean has soured me on Indiana and Wisconsin has ruined my last month. Everyone else in the B1G I will back until they play us.
This and every year we should be all-in for our conference peers. During the tournament, during the bowl season, even during congressional hearings for research dollars.
They're like your step-siblings. Some you like, some you don't, but in a weird way, they're all family.
Root for all our B1G peers - and when their not playing root purely for upsets. Brackets be damned.
I simply do not wish success for the other teams in the conference. I would please me of they all lost in the first round. The only one I want to succeed is Michigan.
If they all lost in the first round while we won it all, would I care what others think about our conference? Hell no.
I'm not sure you can ask others if they read your comment or not when you can't even do the same. From Readyourguard:
If they all lost in the first round while we won it all, would I care what others think about our conference? Hell no.
In these hypothetical scenarios, UM will get its respect because we're winning it all and making deep tourney runs
.....except you left off the part where he said, "The only one I want to succeed is Michigan". Nobody here is just saying, I hope the Big Ten sucks and loses, it's just a lot of people don't really care about the conference's success/failure, it's all about Michigan
but this early in the tournament, I wouldn't say they will stick around to hinder us. If we happen to go farther then maybe, but I don't think so for the first weekend.
MSU is a basketball school first.
I wouldn't boo the Spartans in general. If they made a Sparty of themselves and played like thugs (couldn't happen, right?) I would probably partake in joining the opposition's boos.
sparty will be at the Post by 5pm. We have nothing to worry about. Besides they cant afford the all session pass anyway. We are in session 2 and they are in session 1. I cant imagine they would stay even if they has an all sessions pass.
I will be there Saturday and I will not stoop to sparty's level and boo any young athlete trying his/her best to represent their school. These are students regardless of the color of their uniform.
I hope sparty makes an ass out of themselves. I will take photos and post them.
I hope they don't make an ass of themselves.
I do hope they go all ape-poopy because the Crusaders have just beaten them.
They just have not been very good at football traditionally.
Perhaps there will be more Michigan fans there...
A) Different sessions so many MSU fans will be heading home.
B) Tickets for the UofM game start at $75 versus MSU tickets starting at $44. The UofM ticket average price are going for more than double the average asking price of MSU tickets... The other game is not a big opponent - so it appears as if there is greater demand for UofM and hence most likely more UofM fans. Or perhaps their Dantonio-like hatred for us is causing them to attend our game to boo us and drive the tickets up! (Prices per StubHub)
We also play in the evening session, so a lot more people are able to attend.
Or perhaps their Dantonio-like hatred for us is causing them to attend our game to boo us and drive the tickets up!
OK, now that's a little paranoid. The price differential is easily explained when you consider the salary scales in both the food service and custodial science industries that attract most Spartan graduates.
we will be fine as long as we are winning.
but if we're on the wrong end of the scoreboard, especially in the 2nd half, look out.
Sparty plays at noonish, Michigan at 7ish. Pretty sure those are different sessions and therefore there will be little overlap.
Saturday will be packed. I would think us but it could go either way.
Don't they boot you out after session 1 when sparty plays?
Sorry, I'm not paying to see state. I'm paying for the full strip to watch a real basketball team. Hopefully Michigan makes it to the Third Round and I can haul ass from the JLA for hockey to Aubie for basketball.
Whenever I've gone, I've bought tickets for all sessions. It is a hoop lovers wet dream, you get to see 6 games in one weekend, including (2 hopefully), of your favorite team.
In my experience, as long as the place isn't full (it never is), if you sit in your seat for however long you'd like, it's yours.
Everything I've seen on Stubhub suggests that the two sessions are being treated as completely separate events. Seats in the same section are up for sale for both Session 1 and Session 2.
They are separate events with separate tix, but the original means of purchasing said tix required purchasing all three sessions.
So probably whatever comes out of mouth will be anti MSU
My scene. I could see sparty booing. Actually, I wouldn't root against since I don't watch sparty sports. I know they like to follow UM. That is a sparty ON move.
This is a non issue.
why care? why? why.
there is zero reason except if UM plays MSU that any sane Michigan fan should care, much less have an emotional reaction amounting to "booing," about Michigan State. none. positive or nothing. pettiness like talking 'smack' or even having a debate of any merit is worthless garbage that leads to exaggerations/assessments of the UM fanbase, something I'm sick of dealing bc of idiots who get involved in the politics of "fandom."
Lighten up Francis. Are you kidding me? You make it sound like drudgery. These events are fun and it is interesting to see which way the crowd is swayed. I think it will be fun if either M or MSU or both get some Goliath booing at the Palace. Afterwards you hit the bars, meet some neat people from other parts of the USA, and share a few cold ones.
I think there's a gas station across the street.
And everyone will have a nice, safe time.
It's just giggles and rainbows versus nonstop "your fanbase is so insecure they BOO at games they're not even playing."
The OPs question is the EXACT basis for "little brother" claims of insecurity and narrowed "anyone but UM"/"MSUs best wins against UM they didn't play in" crap.
It's juvenile, insecure and ridiculous, not a charming demonstration of "rivalry"
When I went to first round (technically second round) games in Cleveland a few years ago, the first two games of the day were ticketed separately than the latter two. Is that how they are doing it at the Palace? If so, MSU would be on the first bill and Michigan on the second bill.
I realize many fans may buy tickets for both sets of games, but the two B1G teams will not be playing in front of exactly the same crowd.
2 games/ticket. MSU fans would have to explicitly buy (or have bought) tickets to UM's game to be there and vice-versa
But there are probably a lot of people who bought full session tickets, not knowing what session UM or MSU would be in (after it became highly likely weeks ago that both would be there) and not wanting to risk it selling out. A lot of them will probably try to sell the session they don't want, though.
Or you could have bought the three session ticket when the Palace was announced as a venue, which many people did.
That's the way it's been every time I've gone. They've literally kicked everyone out of the arena between sessions and you need the second ticket of the day to reenter.
Which, as an aside, makes the Palace a relatively bad venue for the first couple rounds of the NCAAs. 3 of the 4 times I've gone, it's been in a relatively urban arena: Milwaukee twice and the Verizon Center in DC. Between sessions, you just go to a bar, watch the other games and drink less expensive beer. Where are you supposed to go at the Palace? I guess you could tailgate, which is a better option than the games I went to when it was at the Rosemont Horizon (Jason Kidd beating Duke his freshman year), where you basically had to schlep to an airport hotel bar.
Except for Wisconsin. Fuck Wisconsin so hard.
Wow. I used to be all "Go Big Tennnnn!!", until I was married to a Sparty and saw first hand what douches most of their fan base is when it comes to anything maize and blue.
Now I root against MSU every time, no matter what. It's even getting to the point where it's a toss-up between ND and MSU when they play.
I'm not going to root for the B1G for no good reason. What have they ever done for me?
Minority view, maybe, but I root for State when they're not playing Michigan. *Shrug*
I don't think MSU fans care to boo us or harass us enough to buy another set of tickets. (I believe they're separate packages since we're in separate regions)
In my experience, Michigan fans outnumber MSU fans at the Joe, but basketball is a different level for State
I have the whole strip
When the two play at the joe, UM fans far outnumber the MSU fans, but there are still a good number of them there. I don't expect much difference for basketball.
For basketball it's very different. Remember, they've been to six Final Fours under Izzo, while we had an NCAA scandal and then a decade of bad teams. They've established a huge fanbase while our fanbase is just starting to come back. They will send a lot of fans to the Palace, most likely more than us (though we'll still have a solid turnout). It shouldn't matter for the Thursday game but may for the Saturday one (if both teams win Thursday).
That's because only MSU grads root for State, while people who shop at discount department stores root for Michigan.
I'll be rooting for all B1G teams to win with the exception of IU because their coach is an ass.
If you have tickets to the tourney and feel compelled to boo then I recommend to scalp them and purchase some Wrestlemania tickets perhaps?
and two of the people going with me are MSU fans. With that said, I wouldn't boo them even if I was among all Michigan fans. That action is reserved for the shameless and/or the insecure (expect MSU fans to boo loudly and proudly Saturday evening if both MSU and Michigan make it to Saturday).
Booing happens all the time in sports. I guarantee you when Ohio State comes out of the tunnel at the Big House this November they are going to hear some boos.
Your example is not a relevant comparison as Michigan would not be playing MSU in this instance. I stand by my original comment.
I bought tickets for all 3 sessions in December (afternoon Thursday, night Thursday, Saturday). When I bought tickets, individual session tickets had not gone on sale yet and the whole lower bowl was sold out and so was much of the upper level. I do not think many of the tickets for these games were sold as individual session tickets. I am sure that plenty of people bought the tickets and may be selling them on the secondary market by individual session or maybe some fans (both UM and MSU alike) bought the whole strip and will sell the session their team is not playing in. I would expect to see lots of UM and MSU fans at both sessions. Also, you better believe their will be fans (on both sides unfortunately) that will react to the performance of their rival team. It happens all the time when Duke and N. Carolina play at the same location. I am with most of the others on this site that will not boo or cheer against MSU loudly. Would it bother me if they lost? Absolutely not. I just hope my fellow Michigan fans don't stoop to a low level by engaging in vocal cheering against and booing of MSU's performances. I know Sparty fans will do it. I hope UM fans do not.
Go ahead and boo if you want to or cheer loudly for MSU's opponent, even if its just to root for the upset. It'll improve the overall experience of what can be some dead buildings in the first round. When Duke and UNC have been together in Greensboro and elsewhere, it's made for a great atmosphere as the fans of each root for the other to get upset.
If you aren't looking for insight on the situation, why are you reading this thread? Pussy
I won't be rooting for Ohio or State, because...THIS IS MICHIGAN. But I would like to see the conference succeed.
I'd love the media coverage if we made history and got like 5 teams to the Elite 8.
The SEC in football has become so annoying, I want to be annoying in basketball.
Just bought my tickets. Me and my buddy will be up there thursday night can't wait. I have never been to the Palace is there a lot of parking nearby the arena? Easy to get from the highway?
Lots of parking. Can be a bitch to get in and out of the lot but you will have no trouble finding a spot.
It's right off I-75 (exit 81). Parking is a ripoff but plentiful.
If you are coming from south of the Palace, it is much easier to get to if you skip the first exit, 81 I think, and hit the first exit north of the Palace and come in from the north. Really easy to do these days with GPS.
GO OLE MISS!
America is better off because they beat Florida for the SEC Championship.
If Sparty boos Michigan, which they will, I would at least cheer for whoever plays against Sparty. Then again, I won't be going, so it's all moot.
There won't be a lot of MSU faithful there because the wings have a game that night and someone needs to sell pizza at the Joe.
I was at Ford Field a couple years ago when MSU played FIU ( I believe) in a neutral field football game. All of sparty nation could barely fill half the stadium. I am not worried.
What to expect?
Expect to watch us win and expect to say screw MSU (fans).
Always root for the B1G...but snicker and enjoy schadenfreude (too lazy to check spelling) whenever a rival fares poorly.
early with a trailer full of old couches for sale. Will charge sparties double after their game. Should make a small fortune.
As a rule, Michigan is the only team I root for to win. If seeing the B1G do well is desired as well, root for Valpo to lose. Or for Iona to lose. Never allow the words "I want state to win", or "I hope ohio state wins" to be uttered.
My bad. Double post.
I'll be in South Korea, tad too far for the trip.
However, if I were there, I would go to both games, and cheer like crazy for whoever plays against MSU.
Generally, I root for all Big Ten teams except MSU and OSU.
With this said, I expect there might be even more MSU fans than UM fans there, and I expect they will stay and cheer against us.
I'm rooting like Hell for all things B1G to prevail. As I'm sure everyone noticed, the" B1G is overrated" backlash has begun in earnest by the media and I would love to see it shoved right back up their ass. The reason we are stuck on the four seed while teams like Marquette & Florida are three's is because the selection committee sucumbed to pressure to not put all the B1G schools up high. So there is nothing that I would like to see more than an all B1G Final Four with Michigan prevailing.
And yes, if I was there I'd root for Sparty regardless of weather they rooted for us or boo'd like crazy.
i would say it'd be easy to "root for Sparty regardless of weather", since the game will be indoors.
Might I suggest.... not rooting for Sparty?
what anyone else thinks.
I'll be cheering like crazy against whomever Sparty is playing. Yes, I'll be there.
May well have left the building. Their game is at 12:15 and ours 7:15. It is a truth universally acknowledged that a Sparty in possession of UM tix would sell them to the highest bidder and use the money to buy a couch to burn.
By 7:15, they'll be in the thick of the dinner rush at McDonald's. You can't leave your post!
I don't really get into the whole 'conference pride' thing because, along with simply hating some of the teams/schools, there's rarely going to be a consensus on which conference is best. If 3/4 teams left are from the same conference, maybe we can all agree then, but it's unlikely to happen.
So if Michigan gets eliminated, I'll probably pull for Gonzaga or another mid major, but no way will I be rooting for little brother (and my little bro is enrolled there, so I get away with that). The only thing that would suck is if half the arena empties out for the 2nd session, but I doubt it.
Really hurt us in recruiting more than the programs we recruit DIRECTLY against doing really well? I never got it either.....I want Michigan to win, and they do that by getting better players from the area and winning games which is easier against worse teams.
having said Im NEVER dissapointed when either MSU or OSU loses
I honestly don't care how the other B1G teams do except if they play UM, so I'll be happy for any team other than IU and MSU. I actually like MSU's team except for Nix, so if he is unable to play due to gross fatness, then I'm back on their bandwagon as well. IU with Crean drives me crazy, so I'm fine with hating them. But as others have noted, conference affiliation means that a stronger overall conference (or at least the perception) should help with recruiting, TV exposure, and NCAA bids, all positives.
I'll cheer for the other Big 10 teams as long as Michigan is still in the tourney. If/when we lose, screw 'em all! I hope everything burns!