Will Brandon even feel he has a choice after this?
Yes, he absolutely does.
I think the mistake in OP's statement is that the rich alums want RR gone. By most standards, I am that rich alum. I am not the "uber" rich alum, but I have, and will continue to contribute to the University of Michigan. I am also a supporter of RR.
I have found that most of the people who are the most vocal about RR are those who never attended the University. They may work at the University, they may live in the area (or not), and they may just be people who are hoping for turmoil at the University of Michigan so they can take advantage of it. Michigan may be down, but they will not stay down.
Brandon will make the right decision and even if it is something that I am not happy with, I will support his decision because I think he has a great vision and long term plan for athletics at the University of Michigan.
I'm of the same opinion. I don't contribute consider myself rich, but I contribute more than some. And I know where I stand (and so does the athletic department).
I've been happy with many hard-fought 9-3 seasons, and would actually be quite content with that record when the dust settles in 2012 with as absurd as that schedule will be. I think 10 wins is quite achievable next year though, hell, this team minus a few of the injuries could probably get close even w/out the fresh blood for special teams and the next year of hard practices.
Best response in the thread.
This post is distracting from the task at hand.
Can't look away.
I will add to your yesses.
He is the AD and a darn good one at that. If he chooses to bring back RR then he weighed the facts and thought it was the right move.
but a CEO of a business, which is absolutely how Brandon views his job, needs his best customers, which Brandon views as the Alums, to be supportive. I've seen many CEO's succumb to this sort of pressure, and their rationale is that "if I've lost the support of my customers, I don't have a choice." Now perhaps Brandon is strong willed enough to withstand that, and I'm not making a judgement on him or RR. But it is absolutely not as open and shut as all of you state.
This analogy is not valid unless you assume that the alumni base is going to withhold enough money in the form of donations, ticket sales, and the like to threaten the AD's financial stability. And there's pretty much no chance of that happening.
I don't presume to know that answer either. But it seems like there will be some drop off.
It has been happening since before RichRod was hired. People did the same thing with Carr. Bill Martin didn't make decisions based on donors threatening to withhold money because (in part) he didn't want people to believe that their money gives them a say. Brandon might be more used to that as a former politician, but even with his "customer satisfaction" concerns, I don't see him being swayed simply by what group of alumni can be the loudest, even if they have money. A lot of alumni who are pissed off are just pissed off and loud, they don't give money and they don't go to the games, and they're never happy unless they have something to bitch about.
You don't really need a mass movement. To be honest people like me who kick back a thousand or less a year aren't really that big at the end of the day. It's people like Stephen J. Ross who cut 200 million dollar checks that matter. If you get three or four people of that size who hold out, that matters.
Harbaugh and RR aren't that different in terms of record. RR took a Big East school and built them up into a ranked power. Harbaugh took one of the lesser PAC-10 schools and did the same. In terms of coaching talent it's hard at this stage to point to one and say "He's better." Harbaugh is the fancy new model right now, while RR used to be hot when he was going to BCS Bowls at WVU. So switching to Harbaugh might be worth it to Brandon if the big donors put on pressure. Think of it like:
Keep RR: Talented coach, angry donors/less money
Get Harbaugh: Talented coach, happy donors
Since Harbaugh is a "Michigan Man" he'd get more time to build the program and while we're likely suffer a down swing for a year or two but long term I think the program ends up at the same place. Although I have to wonder if it would be possible to shit the bed worse than we did against tOSU today on the offensive side of the ball.
strong willed CEO's will make their own informed decision. Brandon will collect all the facts and data he needs to make his decision. He will not let fat rich un-informed alums make the decision. If he let them decide it would have ended after penn state.
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As Brandon has said all along, he has a better perspective on the program than almost everyone else. I trust he will make the best decision for the program, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's not the answer you think.
Stuffed Beaver should get play calling duties for the Bowl Game. 7 points in 3.5 quarters, really??
Yes and that choice is Chris Peterson. BTW Harbaugh is a douche who bashed Michigan just a couple years ago. We didn't forget Jimmy.
Glad I'm not the only one who finds that unsettling.
Peterson isn't leaving.
Deserves to stay.
If he wasn't winning more games, I'd be concerned.
Harbaugh looks the exact same at Stanford -- and he had MORE talent in a WEAKER conference than Rich Rod.
Rich Rod wins 10 games next season and stays.
First of all: in games that matter -- rivalry games -- we were far better last year.
Second: Harbaugh, at Stanford, began with a team that had gone 1-11. So you're making no sense.
If that's your primary criterion for evaluating coaches, I don't want to know what you thought of Bo Schembechler.
So continually winning bowl games against shitty teams means your good?
You're in for more pain. Michigan is going to get something like Oklahoma or Arkansas. Gotta love bowl tie-ins.
Of course there is. Alumni have been calling for RR's head before (i.e. 2008 & 2009)
The cry after this game will Be NOTHING like what has happened so far.
Agreed that the outcry will be rediculous but, we''ve improved every single year and next year we wont be starting 5-6 freshman on defense...
If not for a tipped TD reception in double-overtime, we'd have won two Big Ten games this year - same as in 2008. Progress?
So you're saying, what ifs... We dont know what would have happened on that 4th down if it the miracle reception didnt happen. So you're saying "what if". College football is built on "what ifs" I refuse to apologize for a win.
That's great, but the problem is, we have only six Big Ten wins in three years to not apologize for.
and thanks for making a post about it
they were after Carr's head. They don't know what they want.
Double post. They weren't after Carr's head? Could have fooled me, I distinctly remember arguing with a few. Then there are the ones that I cautioned with "be careful what you wish for".
I am furious right now. I am distraught, disturbed, torn up. I know we are all upset but if you cant see the difference in talent level between our freshman and sophmores vs. their seniors and redshirt juniors than you are an ignorant ass... RR cant prevent fumbles on the field he cant control the decision making on the field. next year we will see a new DC who is going to look like a genious because there wont be 5-6 freshman playing at a given time. I feel real good about the my prediction of 7-5. See you at the bowl game.
True. But as we know from many other examples of other teams, some coaches CAN field teams that do not have the horrible turnover margins that we do--three years in a row. This thread I started was not a fire RR thread, I personally, despite my huge disappointment and growing sense of unease, favor bringing him back for one more year provided we clean house defensively.
RR definitely didn't do himself any favors with this mess, but I think DB is strong enough to make his own decisions and stand by them. This game would make a switch a lot more justifiable since "progress" was his main concern and no progress was shown between the 2008 OSU game and this one. The players certainly didn't do the coaching staff any favors. A lot of unforced errors.
He could but he won't!! The Alums will win this fight i'm afraid.
Yes. Brandon is a big boy; I'm sure he'll be okay.
And good God, this topic has been discussed at great lengths all week, and I'm getting so sick of it. How many times does Brandon need to say that he will conduct a post-season review just like every other damn year and make his decision based on his findings????? Give it a rest, PLEASE.
In the business world, big time managers are always review and analyzing risk of their path forward and decision making processes. You hear DB talk about the Michigan Brand and see him making business / marketing moves to improve it. DB is in the position right now that he "inherited" the current path of the program from his predecessors' decisions. But, that luxury will run out once he gets to the end of the year and evaluates the state of the football program. Whatever decision he decides to make after that evaluation, he will now own the product / path forward for the organization. If he chooses to stay the course with RR and next year the team does not improve, people will start to blame him for the state of the program, not just the head coach. DB will be the one to blame because he was the one who kept RR around and allowed this path forward to continue, when he had a chance to act. So if he stays the course, he has to get this correct and moving forward next year, or his credibility will be impacted. If he chooses to go another route and replace RR, he knows the expectations from the fanbase will not be as great with a new coach, as they will be if RR stays on (because he will be in his 4th year.) Going in a different direction actually buys DB some more time to correct the situation, unify the fanbase (if he makes the right hire) and mold the brand to exactly the direction he wants it to be.
RR is a nice guy and does a lot of positive things with the players and charities he involves himself with. But, he also has a lot of baggage and issues that have surrounded him during his 3 years at Michigan. DB has to look at all of these issues, the lack of performance against the better teams in the B10 the last 3 years and what we can put together next year for a team and decide if he wants to push all his proverbial chips into the pot and say, "I am all in for RR." Does DB really have a choice to head down this path? Yeah, he does, but from a business and credibility standpoint, it is worth the risk to continue down this path?
I think he has a really tough decision on his hands.
Michigan just spent a ton of money to add extra suites to the stadium which did not sell out this year. Do you think your going to have people spending tons of money next year to watch a team that did not beat a team this year that will finish in the top 30. On top of getting blown out by the top three teams in the conference.
i think the key words were "top three teams in the conference." is RR's job only secure in year three if he's winning Big Ten titles or is he allowed, you know, time. Hell, I guess the athletic department is to blame for signing him for four years. should have been two. coaches don't get time to develop talent and adjust. they get 2 years. then if you go 7-5/(7-6/8-5), you're out!
In December 2007, did you really think it'd be impossible for us to post a .500 conference record in the next three seasons?
bc i never would have thought the roster would be what it was in 2008, how minor the progress was in 2009 or the injuries in 2010. your argument is stale bc it relies on a "This is Michigan" basis and not a breakdown of facts that can tangibly be pointed to for understanding of WHY it happened. unless you think it's just bc RR is teh dumz
His contract is for six years.
Pretty sure Michigan football's still profitable and will be next year. Thanks though.
I have a long history here, with rational commentary, and this question was completely legitimate. I, like most people, don't always make the right comment and am not always correct with questions or opinions. But I don't call people out, I've never criticized a player, and I try to respond to people with respect, which I think my other comments on this thread show. But you deserve none of that.
+1 for the Joan Harris pic
The defense has played much better! Offense can move but cannot score. Special teams are a disaster.
You don't get to be the CEO of a major company or the athletic director of one of the country's most storied schools by being a spineless pushover.
Yeah, the alumni and media will throw a fit...but this is Brandon's call, and if he thinks Rodriguez should stay, he will.
While I agree that DB will make the decision / will not be forced to. I also would point out the CEOs make decisions taking major shareholder and board members input with more weight than not.
That's actually a pretty good question. I don't know how much the alumni / fanbase should play into the decision. Let's face it - Brandon would have to do something monumentally stupid to get people to stop supporting their alumni. I don't think refusing to fire a coach that's had a steadily improving record is that kind of decision.
i think i'm grounded in reality and think your reaction is completely reactionary and takes into account absolutely nothing in terms of progress on offense (where we actually have upperclassmen/player development) and what's going on in defense, which is a shmismortion not dissimilar from what it is on similarly young teams.
Wake up people! RR has no clue what these rivalry games are!
I think the one thing we can all agree on is that RR isn't making the decision easy either way
I am an alumnus of University of Michigan, and a relatively wealthy one. I'm not deafening to fire Rich Rodriguez, in fact, I'm email Dave Brandon to voice my support.
Unfortunately, Michigan and Ohio State are no longer on the same level of program, and that isn't Coach Rodriguez's fault. Obviously it is so so so painful to say that, and I don't think there isn't hope that in the next couple of seasons, that we won't be at that level. But we won't be if fire our head coach.
Who's fault is it?
The buck has to stop somewhere.
How in the holy hell is this not Rich Rod's fault?
It is at least partially, if not mostly his fault. You can argue improvement on offense as a reason to keep him.
But three years of worst defenses ever, three years of turnover city, three years of sub par special teams play sputtering offenses in big games later, there is no way that the Head Coach is not responsible.
Whether it's his "fault" that we're mediocre is beside the point. Is he the right guy for the program? If not, you try to find the right guy.
You are right, there is a great divide between UM and OSU right now, especially in the coaching department. It cannot be denied. Jim Tressel has 5 national championships and is one of the best coaches in the country.
Whatever side of the RR fence you fall on in regards to keeping or firing, it's clear that OSU has the better coach, right now.
Brandon didn't get where he is today by being overly reactionary. He'll look at the season as a whole, the bowl game, the returning players, etc. and make a decision. If it was me, I'd give RR one more year and expect 8-9 wins. Despite what movies make people think, most alums don't pull funding because the team loses unless there appears to be little stability. Brandon and RR are on the right page, and I think that will be communicated to the relevant parties.
Eerily, I received my 2011 Victors Club & PSD renewal in the mail today.
I'm wondering how many people don't renew their season tickets next year?
PSD is "preferred seating donation"
No one would have known what PSD was without your help, pathetic as it might have been. Thanks so much. Some of those seats could stand to change hands. The current holders have gotten complacent over the years.
Do not vilify the fanbase that has led the nation in attendance 36 of the last 37 years. Even in a horrible economy, and coming off our worst two-year stretch since the 1960s, we still filled up the largest stadium in the country this year. We have great fans. All they ask for is a reason to have faith in the program. Right now it's becoming very difficult to find any.
regarding RR, but your above comment is dead on (except I would use "increasingly" for "very" in your last sentence).
faith, you have my sympathies.
Turning the word some into the fanbase is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?
I don't know, I'm on the fire side now. They're not competitive against good teams. Sorry.
firing him is too knee-jerk. it also fails to take into account the reality that, outside of two games, the offense fired on all gears. what's more, the team has never been healthy on defense. i would LOVE to hear how you think this is RR's bed other than the same old "buck stops here" crap.
7 points in 3 quarters vs Iowa
0 points in 2 quarters against Wisconsin, then an explosion, then nothing
7 points in 4 quarters vs tOSU
17 points total against MSU
Plus the Purdue game.
I like RR's offense, but where do you get only 2 games where the offense didn't fire on all cylinders?
seriously. i get that you're pissed and all but to claim this team didn't click in any of those games is a joke. and i was at the Purdue game. God couldn't have moved the ball in that crap.
But the offense sputtered in each of those games, scoring primarily after we'd fallen into a deep hole. So the stats are a bit deceiving. Like most front-running teams, our opponents relaxed a little. We would catch up, then the other team would slam the door. The pattern was pretty damn consistent. Except, in the later games, the whole catch-up thing went out the window, and we hardly scored at all. The offense has great potential, and has great moments, but it's far from great.
I don't think it's that knee jerk. Has Michigan beaten a single team that finished the season ranked? I'm not sure about Wisconsin in 08, but that's it.
The staff hasn't managed it's roster well at all. Sure, some of it's bad luck, but only about 4-5 of the defenders should have started this year. There's two ways to look at that, either feel bad for all the bad luck, or think something is fundamentally wrong with his player management skills. Eventually it's the latter--I just got there a few games sooner.
They aren't competitive, bottom line and I think Rodriguez would agree with me.
Our three Big Ten wins this year were by a combined 20 points. Our five Big Ten losses were by a combined 87 points.
My real issue is from a leadership point of view. I've don't have a real problem with the wins. My problem is that the staff has been unable to develop any semblance of depth on defense or a somewhat competent special teams. James Rogers starting is a perfect example. There needs to be some depth everywhere, not position switches. I've got no info, but all the departures tell me he'll always struggle molding young men here, for whatever reason.
It's easy to get Mike Martin or Troy Woolfolk all in, but convincing an all-world recruit that's struggling to stay the course is hard and I don't know that he can do that.
we were making definite progress in defensive recruiting so i don't understand your post other than fretting
406 points allowed this season. That's 59 more than in 2008 and 76 more than in 2009. They are the three worst totals in Michigan's history.
After signing day, I'd have (and I think most would have) guessed the starting secondary probably would have read something like Woolfolk, Dorsey, Turner, Emelien, and Kovacs. 60% of those players aren't even on the roster. If any one of them leave, I don't really care, but 3 of 5 of his recruits leaving when they're in line to compete for starting spots indicates roster management and character identification issues to me. You can easily explain each of them away and I know each of the purported reasons, but all the departures and never arrived players indicate a larger issue to me.
we're also playing some teams in the Big Ten who are having decades-best performances while playing one of, if not THE, youngest secondary in the Big Ten... or NCAA. you'd have a terrific point if we had juniors and seniors who were failing to accomplish. instead we have freshman playing their ass off to compensate a complete lack of game experience. and we STILL overcame all that to win 7 games.
you just sound grumpy imo
This has been bothering me since last summer. We're not going to agree, but I'm upset that the staff can't seem to play the hand they're dealt and work on the future as best they can. You've got to whatever you can to keep guys like Emelien and Turner. It's a coach's job to motivate and inspire them to put in the work to succeed.
If he can't judge character well enough to pick the right guys or motivate them to succeed, then that is a serious flaw that isn't going to be rectified with time.
I've got no idea what's different now than when he was at WVU. Maybe he could fill holes with transfers, or maybe he's stretched for some higher profile kids that have badly backfired, but not having a backup free safety after three seasons is crappy roster management, IMO.
Why is it that RR gets credit for recruiting a "juggernaut offense" but gets a flier on the crap defense? It's ridiculous.
because the defense is at 2/3 of its starting roster and is made up of freshman.
In year one, you can make that excuse. If that's still the case in year three, some serious roster mismanagement has gone on.
to fall on that as your argument. the secondary has been decimated, which led to linebackers having to help with coverage, etc. the defensive line has been a disappointment but even there you find big injuries. year one didn't feature freshman so it's not an excuse for then. year two even. but year three is pure underclassmen. shortest set of haikus in ages. but that's all RRs fault, right?
Eventually, yes. Part of the staff's job is to convince players to stay and be part of the team.
He's actually recruited alright on the defensive side of the ball. They all just left/never made it here/got injured.
(See Demar Dorsey, J.T. Turner, Vlad Emilien, etc.)
And RR is the one responsible.
Hey Rich, when you come back to Ann Arbor, go to Yost Ice Arena during a game and go straight to the penalty box.
All the chants work. C-Ya. Sieve. It's all your fault. Take your pick. Disgusted.
Disgusted? Did you forget your MLive login password?
Cool idea bro! How long did that take?!
See if Rich Rod can improve his team with practice time. If the team fails in the bowl to show improvement, then make your move.
Regardless of the decision, make it now for the recruiting class's sake.
There's an interesting balance between these two things. Much as I think it's best for the recruiting class if there's a vote of confidence, it's hard to say that if we get rolled in a bowl game that won't sway Brandon's opinion.
I think we'll be just fine in the bowl game but who knows. Seems like this team hasn't played to its potential yet and who's to say it will.
in the lol dongs thread.
I have been pro-RR for a while, but I am honestly ambivalent at this point. If RR gets canned and we get Harbaugh, I won't shed any tears. At the same time, either guy should see improvement based on not starting a ton of freshmen.
Like somebody said, though, at some point perception becomes reality. If RR improves to 9-3, people will see marginal improvement, and many will still be bitter about his still-losing Big Ten record. If Harbaugh comes in and gets the same record, with a win over MSU or OSU, it will look like he was able to turn the corner where RR could not. Same result, different perception.
At the same time, if RR is let go, I wouldn't be surprised to see him succeed somewhere where he will be wanted and will be given time to build what he wants.
Blowing up the team might not make the defense worse. But it will make the offense worse. Let's be sane and focus on the things that actually need a complete overhaul.
Find a head coach who isn't so rigid that he needs to install "his" offensive system in year one, but instead can adapt to the talent he has. Harbaugh ran a spread at the University of San Diego and went 29-6 there. I see no reason why he wouldn't do so here next year.
Let's play hypotheticals here:
Hypothetically, if Coach X replaced Rodriguez, is it really a guarantee that the offense gets worse? The offense has been amazing at racking up yards and looked pretty damn good in about 6 games this year. In the other 6, the offense turned the ball over, floundered in the red zone, or never started. I think a lot of this, and I do mean a lot, is the youth and inexperience, both in terms of Denard and the receivers.
Let's say Harbaugh or Hoke came in next year. Does everyone really automatically assume Denard transfers in that situation? Denard ain't Ryan Mallett and certainly talks enough about the "team" to bring into question this scenario too. Would Hoke or Harbaugh really try to stick Denard into a situation he absolutely cannot play in?
The real question I guess, is why do we assume a sophomore Denard in RR's offense is greater than a junior Denard in X's offense when our offense has only really looked fully solid in half the games this year?
I was with you for part of that. Then, I saw "Hoke" and threw up in my mouth.
How the mighty have fallen ... we're at the point where some fans are enthusiastic about bringing in a Mid-Major coach, in his early 50s, with just a handful of winning seasons.
Looking at Hoke isn't answering the question. The question is whether or not the offense will be as good next year as it is this year, regardless of the coach.
A. The two hires prior to Rodriquez were a coordinator with no head coaching experience, and a guy who had a horrible record at his previous head coaching job (6-24-3). Those both worked out pretty well.
B. The Rodriquez boosters underestimate the damage he's done to the Michigan football program. At this point, the big name coaches are pretty much Harbaugh or no one (with *maybe* an outside shot at Les Miles if we really want to grovel). One more year of this and it'll only be Mid-Major coaches or 'promising" coordinators (who, if they're so promising, why do they only work out about 1 in 50 times?).
Are you serious Comrade?
I would never want Hoke if Harbaugh was available, not to mention a variety of other more successful candidates.
That being said, Hoke has turned around a team that went 2-10 in 2008. They're currently beating UNLV and should go 8-4, with very competitive losses to TCU and Utah. He's not a great coach, but I'd rather he stay somewhere far away from the Big Ten.
Brady Hoke will come in to the Big House next year - with a SDSU team that is probably as good as, say, that UMASS powerhouse that gave UM so much trouble this year.
If the team is 9-3 next year, that means a minimum 5-3 record in the Big Ten. That would mean another win over ND, and a win over at least one of MSU, Iowa, Nebraska, or OSU.
Personally, after the way the defense played today and how the offense was almost there against a Top 5 in the nation defense, I'm thinking 10-2 next year, beating 2 of those 4 teams.
2011 - Junior (Denard + Offense) + sophomore Defense = Contend for Big Ten, maybe BCS
2012 - Senior (Denard + Offense) + junior Defense = BCS, maybe MNC game
Just to clarify, when I said still-losing Big Ten record, I meant his overall Big Ten record. The current season is all that should matter (and the progress represented therein), but at the same time people always bring up his overall Big Ten record. The fact is that to many Michigan fans and the media he will always have that baggage.
Given our continued young defense and poor defensive coaching, I can only see 8 win next season with loses to both NE and OSU at home! 2012 will be difficult playing AL, NE and OSU on the road? Maybe 1 win out of the three for 9 wins!
If the team is 9-3 next year, that means a minimum 5-3 record in the Big Ten. That would mean another win over ND, and a win over at least one of MSU, Iowa, Nebraska, or OSU.
Wow, you mean in year four we might beat one of those four teams? Fantastic.
Must beat MSU next year. I don't care who is coach. In fact, my expectation is 1 loss going into the Nebraska game (as UM will likely lose to Neb and OSU).
9-3. No excuses. No more losing to MSU. It will be Year 4, for cryin' out loud. Show me real progress or let's find someone who can.
Double post - please delete
Yes he will. I still have trouble understanding why people think that hiring Harbaugh will make everything better. He isn't some fairy that can sprinkle magic dust and make everything better.
They dust their field with his magic dust every night before their games. Perhaps we should invest in some.
They dust their field with his magic dust every night before their games. Perhaps we should invest in some.
You can say that again.
Quick, let's get a donation drive going to build Rich Rod his Golden Throne! This would make him just like Jimmy!
The only position that is being debated is on the defensive side of the ball IMO. The way I see it we give Gerg a year or two more to get his defensive scheme fully implemented. The exact same way we gave RR and his offense a couple years to get situated.
Next year we will see an improved offense which should be nearly unstoppable if Denard progresses on his reads and passing game. Defense should be improved to be a mediocre to good defense given the departures of only 2 defensive starters and loads of experience gained by the freshman.
Give it time. Be patient. In a year or two Ann Arbor will be singing to a different tune.
what about the special team?
I understand your argument, but even OSU fans are asking why we have lowered our expectations. When have you ever heard our fan base accept seasons like the last 3? I'm not saying fire RR or hire Harbaugh. I'm serious in asking you, "When is enough, enough?"
I think next year is the year in which we could decide whether or not to fire RR. If our production decreases then I believe RR is out.
Next year should show or needs to show what RR has been working towards in making our team the elite all around team it should be. Including special teams. Otherwise it's bye bye RR, hello (insert candidate here). Obviously Harbaugh is the front runner for the HC position if that's the case
I also hate to say it, but 3 star defensive talent isn't going to work anymore. This is the Big Ten and the conference is only getting stronger.
There's a very real chance that Harbaugh isn't around next year.
Next year we will see an improved offense which should be nearly unstoppable if Denard progresses on his reads and passing game.
You mean, an improved offense to score more than 7 points against OSU? Gee, that'd be great. Almost unstoppable.
But -- yes he will. No decision until after the bowl game. WIn that and people have a good taste in their mouth. Lose it at RR should be fired anyway.
It will have to be before a bowl. They'll need to form a search committee, and put together a process. If he pulls the trigger, DB may want to go out and hire Harbaugh, but he can't just go out and make an offer, (and no guarantee that JH would accept an offer anyway). The University is a public institution and there are laws and policies (federal and state) that govern the hiring of staff.
During the game they mentioned that Brandon's quote was that he would wait til after the bowl to make a decision, however everyone knows that's just not realistic. No self respecting organization would ever fire a coach after the bowl game because it simply wastes too much time. I think that was simply a quote to give himself some breathing room and the press to back off a little.
I may be in the minority of Alums, but I would stop sending my checks if they hired Harbaugh. As important as it is to win, it's more important to do it the right way and be respectful of your players, fans and opponents. Harbaugh has not shown that he can do this yet.
Funny thing, but the University has some say in the decision. The academic side might not be as quick to forgive as the people to whom nothing matters but wins and losses.
Thanks for pointing out that academics count too. The team GPA has also risen under Coach Rod.
In more ways than one.
He'll just filter anything with the subject line "Fire Rich Rod" or similar into one inbox and have someone else read them. He's a smart guy, I trust him to make a smart decision.
If he fires RR, will you consider that a smart decision?
Brandon's almost forced into a position of rolling the dice. He has to look at a coach who's team lost nearly every big game in the season, finishing with a mediocre record and try to decide if this coach will indeed eventually bring Michigan to the top of the big ten and the nation. On the one hand, if he still believes in RR, he has to face the fact that its not going to happen over night and he will have to put up with angry fans and alumni in all liklihood for another year. If he believes RR has to go, then he's left with a program in shambles and a nearly impossible situation for the next coach. Furthermore, on that note, I don't care who the coach is, he's not going to be able to implement yet another system and get it up and running in less than 2 to 3 years. I don't envy Brandon's position at all and I hope it works out for us in the end. Go blue!
I don't think Brandon gives a rip what the haters think.
Yes. The same people screaming for RR's head will be screaming for Brandon's head if he replaces RR but the new coach does not work out. Brandon will do exactly what he has been saying since he was hired -- he will evaluate the program at the end of the season and do what he thinks is in the best interests of the program. He will not let far less informed alumni make the decision for him, wealthy or otherwise.