Remember things like this... I cant wait until everybody is hopping back on the Michigan bandwagon.
It looks as though you are doing a reckonning on your MgoPoints. Glad to see you working back into the green.
a gigantic fucking wagon.
They've become so irrevelant that I like to talk about them every day.
Holy shit we're arguing about whether Michigan is still relevant? The transformation into the Notre Dame fanbase is complete.
I don't recall any tweets by UM players saying "I told you so" to the fanbase.
Averaging five wins a year since Rich Rod arrived seems to be the real reason for irrelevance.
Aside from the shameless self-promotion of a Wilbon interview being a "Top Story", why hasn't the Urban Meyer story blown it off ESPN.com?????
But actually, the real point made is that he'd be proud to send his kid to U of M. That praise is higher than his digs are low.
have I ever cared about what Michael Wilbon thinks?
It must be great to be a Northwestern Wildcat these days. They're excellent at football.
"If a given baseball field is 120.2 yards long, and a football field is 120 yards long, and the walls are made of brick, and a human being running at full speed travels at approximately 20 mph, should we:
- a) Teach the players to stop in less than 0.2 yards,
- b) Forbid running during the game,
- c) Make the players play the entire game at one end of the field, or
- d) PLAY THE DAMN GAME SOMEWHERE ELSE
Considering the players on their roster, they might get more from their roster than any other team in the conference.
Plus, I don't think any Michigan fan is in any position to make fun of a squad going to their third straight bowl game.
And yet when these results are "the best they can get with their roster," then that means...
...a Northwestern fan shouldn't be making fun of Michigan, either.
They're the team that has been putting out a superior product in comparison to Michigan. An added bonus is Fitzgerald who is far and away a better man and coach then what Michigan has.
Same record + MUCH weaker non-conference schedule + lower Sagerin rating (72 vs. 48) + ??? = "superior product"
Your definition of "superior" and mine are very different.
They did beat Michigan by a single touchdown in 2008, so yeah, I guess that's something to be proud of.
/s ? ?
Agreed. Pat Fitzgerald has put together some of the most successful Wildcat teams in recent history. He's a great coach doing a great job. I think the current NW senior class has won more games than any senior class in the past 20-30 years or something like that.
Sure, for Northwestern 7-5 is a pretty good year, and finishing in the middle of the pack in the Big 10 is an accomplishment, but there is no reason for Northwestern fans to be smug about their program vis-a-vis Michigan.
The only thing that scares me more than Keyser Soze and spiders is Mike Wilbon's belief that his opinion truly has the power to move mountains.
+1. So true. I was back in Michigan for the holidays, and Sparty fans were far more interested in rubbing Michigan's losses to Wisconsin and Ohio State in my face, speculating about RR ("spread don't work in the Big 10 you need MOAR MUSCLES"), and accusing Denard Robinson of being a pussy and/or a running back than they were in discussing any of Sparty's accomplishments.
ND hasn't been particularly relevant on the national stage in 15 years. Michigan was a play away from the National Championship game in 2006 (DON'T DO IT, SHAWN... PULL UP...), beat Tebow in 2007, and was ranked for something like 6,000 consecutive weeks before The Horror.
A couple of down seasons =/= a couple of down decades.
Don't want to be a debbie downer, but they were unranked much of 2005.
You are correct. How I could forget the Year of Infinite Pain is beyond me. Probably blocked it out somehow.
That's what I get for being long-winded.
and it all goes away!
Although I don't know if you can get away with a Josh Groban sing along even if you are 13-0 with a NC.
Rich Rod can sing whatever the hell he wants in the middle of the diag if he goes 13-0 with a MNC
Especially since it is impossible given our 14 game schedule if undefeated from here on out.
well, Mike Wilbon said on Tony Kornheiser's radio show last year that Rodriguez would NOT return for 2010. He cited as a source a "former Michigan player in the know" who pulled out his wallet and placed it on the table as a wager that Rodriguez would be fired during the 2009-2010 off-season.
In otherwords, I trust him completely.
I remember this exactly, but wasn't it a former WVU player that was extremely close to RR..
It was a joke, not to mention the other day Wilbon said RR has done more than enough to bring him back and supported him for the Groban song thing..
I would imagine most Northwestern alums feel this way and I don't really blame them (you need a defense mechanism against a lifetime of losing results). I'm pretty sure Vanderbilt grads take pleasure when Tennessee and Alabama struggle. Rice alums probably got a big kick out of Texas' struggles this year. The rest of the Pac 10 roots against USC football and UCLA basketball.
When you are a traditional power that beats the little guy far more often than not, people who went to other schools don't tend to like you.
Did any one see PTI last week when they do the 5 second cutback to the studio between commercials and he said he wouldn't see Lebron's return to Cleveland because he was going to be at a Kenny G concert? Hilarious.
The Michigan football program played in the NBA. Now I get it! The owner of this Blog is Brian Cook from the LA Clippers.
Everything is starting to make sense now.
The guy was in college during a time when NW would get absolutely throttled by teams like UM. If OSU was down, he would say the same thing about OSU. Having met him and having a friend who knows him pretty well, Wilbon is pretty normal. Any normal NW fan would have no reason to like Michigan in the least or ND considering how bad the local Chicago media slurps them. I would be more surprised if he professed his love of UM since I would wonder what was wrong with him or what link he has with the school.
Kendra is the least hottest of the three
Just win, and all is magical again.
Wilbon clearly has never liked Michigan and that is because he is a Northwestern guy. He's honest about his bias in this regard and he owns it. I'd rather have a columnist who lays out where he's coming from and what colors his view than one who tries to play everything as "all things being equal."
*-columnist, not a reporter. That's different.
I like Wilbon. I grew up in Chicago and he loves all of my teams except Michigan. Wilbon hates M and ND the same way I grew up hating ND.
If you weren't/aren't a Michigan fan, you probably hate Michigan, just like the Yankees. Decades of dominance and success will do that. Northwestern home games Vs. Michigan are really Michigan home games in Evanston.
He's got a grudging respect/fan hate for us, and there's nothing wrong with that. At least he's up front about it. He's usually got pretty sane takes on things (he recently said Rich needs another year, remember Denard in the beginning of the year, etc.) and he's entertaining
he thinks by speaking loudly it makes his opinions less dumb. don't work for me.
Wilbon and Kornheiser are nothing more than entertainers. At least they both somewhat admit to it unlike guys from a local newspaper in town (cough drew sharp cough). He takes shots at Michigan because that is what people like to hear. Just like people like to hear that the Heat are losing.
I personally like Wilbon because he is a pretty funny guy who rarely takes himself too seriously. I know he's a very respected journalist from his days with the WaPo...but I think his switch to ESPN.com officially signals the end of that era.
Is his opinion supposed to be important or something?
I just read that he's a Chicago-area sports fan and sportswriter, but I'm not sure why his negative views of ND and UM would cause so much worry.
Perhaps you can take heart in the fact that he's a Chicago Cubs fan. That means Mr. Wilbon has a full and complete understanding of what living hell must really be like.
Isn't the fact that our coaching issue is still being talked about non-stop in the media prima facia evidence that we are, in fact, relevant? Hell, if Northwestern fired their coach, would anyone even care? Would it make the national press as anything other than "in other news that only 11 people watching will care about, Northwestern has fired its football coach and hired some other guy. NW still plans, however, to remain a program that is regularly decent but about which nobody who did not attend Northwestern cares. "
Indiana and Minnesota...
No splash, nary a ripple through the media.
I agree with his stance but it's hard to take a mongoloid seriously.
Poor form, dude.
I think that one really pushed you over the edge. You've officially worn out your welcome.
King of Belch, is that you? Or is it Tom Hagen? Regardless, I smell me a negbang coming....
and why would anyone choose as their name a term signifying chronic abuse of one's own privates? Is that something to be proud of now? Kids these days...
Hagan won't be back until RR is gone. He really backed himself into such a corner that his options are severely limited. If DB does decide to depart from everything Bo taught him and pull the plug on RR in January, though, I am guessing that Hagan will reappear with a vengence on every blog, newspaper forum, and comment field concerning Michigan football. He will be the first to say "I told you so," even if it is under a different handle.
At this point, though, no matter who it is, I am pretty much in favor of anyone who calls anyone else a "retard" or "mongoloid" getting one of those million mgopoint negbombs from the mods. Making fun of a person born with all of their facilities who does something stupid is fair game in my book, but making fun of someone born with a learning disability is about as classless as it gets.
That's not right.
He's entitled to his opinion, and I'm sure that UM came across as arrogant when they were crushing teams left and right. It happens - winning leads to an expectation of winning, and that can be tough on teams that don't have that tradition or feel they are being dismissed. Honestly, though, I could care less what sportswriters have to say about this team.
He's dead? Oh, crap. Still alive :-(
Where were these hard hitting opinions during "The Decision?" Oh, right- stooped over, shining Lebron's shoes.
I yawn in his general direction. Wilbon is not a reporter making editorial decisions based on his dislike for Michigan. Nor is he fomenting conspiracy theories and launching them secretly inside Schembechler Hall.
He's a full-fledged press personality. Nobody takes his words as anything other than his opinion. If he's pissed at getting hammered by ND and Michigan, that shows we were successful back then. Something to emulate for the future.
If he wants to waste press space playing out his schadenfreude inferiority complex, I welcome him to do so.
I mean are there any analysts on ESPN who are not just complete douche bags? Almost none of them are worth listening to now. WHO? I want Craig Kilborn back and not cheating on his girlfriends in movies anymore.
Op-ed writers and talk show hosts are the folks becoming increasingly irrelevant thanks to blogs and boards like this (I'd include sonsofsamhorn.net, because I'm also a Red Sox fan), I rarely get my sport news from 'traditional' mediums like tv, newspapers and radio. Hell, I rarely click on espn.com or other web based newspaper sites anymore.
I just negged my own post b/o sloppy punctuation. Sorry.
I rarely agree with Wilbon, but if you notice further down in that column he does what few sportswriters have the balls/brains to do: refuse to jock Peyton Manning as a better QB than Tom Brady. I respect him for that, even if he throws out misguided/biased opinions about Michigan the rest of the time...