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November 15th, 2012 at 3:42 PM
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Why Michigan could make the Fiesta Bowl.

Even if Michigan doesn't make the Rose Bowl, we could end up in the Fiesta Bowl.  I know there is a lot of football to be played, but none of these things are even unlikely to happen.

 

1    Kansas State    10-0    Wins out, goes to NC.
2    Oregon               10-0    Wins out, goes to NC.
3    Notre Dame      10-0    Wins out, replaces Oregon in Rose Bowl.
4    Alabama             9-1    Wins out, goes to Sugar Bowl.
5    Georgia              9-1    1 will get BCS at large.
6    Florida                9-1    1 will get BCS at large.
7    LSU                     8-2    1 will get BCS at large.
8    Texas A&M         8-2    1 will get BCS at large.
9    South Carolina  8-2    1 will get BCS at large.
10    Florida State    9-1    Wins out, goes to Orange Bowl.
11    Clemson          9-1    Loses to South Carolina, falls out of top 14.
12    Oklahoma        7-2    Plays OSU, Baylor, and WVU.  Loses 1 and falls out of top 14.
13    Stanford            8-2    Loses to Oregon, falls out of top 14.
14    Nebraska         8-2    Wins out, goes to Rose Bowl, or loses to WI and falls out of top 14.
15    Texas                8-2    Loses to KSU.
16    Oregon State   7-2    Loses to Oregon.
17    UCLA                8-2    Either beats USC and loses to Oregon, or loses to USC and possibly Stanford.
18    USC                 7-3    Same situation as UCLA.
19    Louisville        9-1    Wins out, goes to Orange Bowl as last BCS pick.
20    LA Tech           9-1    Wont climb high enough.
21    Michigan         7-3    If wins out, goes to Fiesta Bowl.
22    Rutgers           8-1    Loses to Louisville.
23    Texas Tech    7-3    Chance could win out and jump Michigan.
24    Ok. St.              6-3    Chance could win out and jump Michigan.
25    Washington    6-4    No one else matters.

 

Assuming that the Rose Bowl picks ND to replace Oregon. the Fiesta gets the next two picks.  The will obviously take an SEC at large.  No chance they take the Big East champ.  That leaves another at large.  There are rules in the BCS to prevent the Sugar Bowl from having to take Michigan to prevent a rematch, so the Fiesta takes Michigan and Sugar takes another choice, leaving FSU vs Big East in the Orange Bowl.

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November 15th, 2012 at 3:42 PM | Apologies (Score:5 Normal)
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For the not so great formatting.  Its my first post, it looked much better prepost.

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November 15th, 2012 at 3:44 PM | I'll have me some of that (Score:5 Normal)
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I'll have me some of that koolaid!

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November 15th, 2012 at 7:50 PM | Agreed, this is about as (Score:3 Normal)
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Agreed, this is about as realistic as those "UFOs" out in Denver.  Everyone knows they are probably just some experimental drones coming out of Ft. Collins, but hey, it's fun to pretend sometimes too!

Rutgers and Maryland: NOT WELCOME

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November 15th, 2012 at 9:40 PM | Those "UFOs" look very much (Score:3 Normal)
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Those "UFOs" look very much like insects flying close to the lens. Never underestimate the gullibility of the masses.

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November 15th, 2012 at 3:45 PM | This would be awesome if it (Score:5 Normal)
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This would be awesome if it worked out. Anybody willing to make a "Spartan Tears Taske Like Tostitos" sign??

WOLVERINE NATION!

Twitter: @MckenzieNewby

 

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November 15th, 2012 at 3:47 PM | Would be husker tears this time (Score:5 Normal)
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But spartan tears still funnier

Tremendous!

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November 15th, 2012 at 4:00 PM | or we just don't acknowledge (Score:5 Normal)
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or we just don't acknowledge Spartan tears at all and mention to Ohio how nice it is to be playing in a bowl game.

You know, Dude, I myself dabbled in pacifism once. Not in 'Nam of course.

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November 15th, 2012 at 4:01 PM | I heard that Sparty grads (Score:5 Normal)
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I heard that Sparty grads make for terrible private investigators because you can always hear them sobbing from behind the weeds...

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November 15th, 2012 at 5:05 PM | God, I hope we don't ever do (Score:4 Normal)
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God, I hope we don't ever do that again. That sign was embarrassing. 

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November 15th, 2012 at 5:55 PM | Seconded (Score:5 Normal)
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Granted it wasn't as lame as, say, putting up a billboard along the interstate, but what fanbase would ever stoop to that level?

Still we should be above such juvenile antics.

 

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November 15th, 2012 at 3:46 PM | Our final ranking (Score:-1 Redundant)
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Don't we have to finish somewhere in the top 14 or something like that in the BCS standings to make a BCS game? I thought that was one of the big deals last year but I could be wrong. Given our current ranking I don't see how we could move up that far. Is there something else that would allow us to make it?

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November 15th, 2012 at 3:50 PM | If you read through the post, (Score:2 Normal)
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If you read through the post, it shows how all the teams in front of us can lose and move us up.

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November 15th, 2012 at 3:52 PM | We are currently 21st in the (Score:3 Normal)
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We are currently 21st in the BCS, if we win out, and depending on who else loses, we might make it up to 14th.

Semper Fidelis

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November 15th, 2012 at 3:58 PM | Legit question here (Score:3 Normal)
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But seeing as OSU is not in the BCS rankings, does a win against an undefeated team that is not ranked (only because it can't be), would that count less??

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November 15th, 2012 at 4:06 PM | As far as I know, the (Score:4 Normal)
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As far as I know, the computers still factor in OSU, PSU, NC, etc., but they're removed when they list their top 25. So, for example, if OSU is #4 in a computer, everyone behind them gets bumped up a spot when it's entered into the BCS ranking.

Plus it'd be a bonus with the human voters, which is even more important.

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November 15th, 2012 at 7:47 PM | no (Score:2)
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you don't get punished for playing a good team that's been naughty.

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November 15th, 2012 at 3:55 PM | - (Score:2)
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I dont think the above scenario will play out. But a convincing win over Ohio would probably give us the rankings jump necessary for the top 14.

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November 15th, 2012 at 4:30 PM | Honestly, the least likely (Score:4 Normal)
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Honestly, the least likely thing that needs to happen is us beating OSU. If we do that, even by one, we probably make it.

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November 15th, 2012 at 5:19 PM | I believe top 16, but your (Score:0 Offtopic)
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I believe top 16, but your point is well taken.  A lot to happen in the next three weekends.  On a side note, I can moderate again!  Hurrah me! And I gave you some informative action OP!! 

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November 15th, 2012 at 9:38 PM | No you didn't; it's top-14 (Score:3 Normal)
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No you didn't; it's top-14 unles some weirdness happens with some BCS conferences not qualifying.

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November 15th, 2012 at 3:48 PM | It won't happen. (Score:5 Normal)
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I live in Arizona, no way anything that convenient will happen for me.

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November 15th, 2012 at 3:49 PM | MSU? (Score:5 Normal)
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But if we make it to the Fiesta, where does that leave MSU?   Will they get shut out of the BCS again?   Damned football gods.

 

EDIT:  Beaten to the punch(line).   Dang.

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November 15th, 2012 at 8:51 PM | After playing in one of the (Score:2)
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After playing in one of the glamorous Buffalo Wild Wings or Little Caesars bowl games, it leaves them sitting on their couches watching. 

If Ann Arbor is a whore, why didn't you get in?

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November 15th, 2012 at 9:29 PM | Whoa now (Score:2 Normal)
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Don't get your cart before the horse. They still aren't bowl eligible. 

not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

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November 15th, 2012 at 3:52 PM | I thought the SEC can only (Score:4 Normal)
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I thought the SEC can only get 2 BCS teams?

Simply Stated Go Blue

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November 15th, 2012 at 4:00 PM | Correct (Score:1)
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They can only get two teams in. The OP is assuming that Alabama will be the SEC champion and then one of Georgia, Florida, Texas A&M, LSU or South Carolina will get the other spot

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November 15th, 2012 at 4:00 PM | yes (Score:5 Normal)
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That's why all those teams in the top 10 won't go. He is saying only 1 of those 5 teams will go.

It's interesting but you have 3 holes.

1. Nebraska is not MSU.   Nebraska beat us so they should go ahead of us.   Unlike last year Nebraska travels like a mother fucker so we don't get the bump up ahead of them like we did MSU who can't make to their own stadium and no bowls care about.

2. Oklahoma- they will be favored in all their games.

3. Clemson- They will only have 2 losses if they lose to SC and would probably still be ahead of us.

 

I think you need Wiscy to lose to OSU this weekend and then lose to Nebraska in the title game so you can get Nebraska to Pasadena. 

 

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November 15th, 2012 at 4:08 PM | I have Nebraska in the Rose (Score:4 Normal)
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I have Nebraska in the Rose Bowl.

Seeing Oklahoma lose one of those games doesn't seem too far fetched.

The Clemson part I can see, but since its their last game, if they get blown out, they wont have a chance to bounce back.

 

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November 15th, 2012 at 6:16 PM | Seems like Wisky beating (Score:3 Normal)
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Seems like Wisky beating Nebraska would be bad on a couple of fronts.  1) That puts Wisky in the Rose Bowl (does it matter where Wisky is in the BCS?)  2) By extension that probably hurts M in the computers (SOS lowered).

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November 15th, 2012 at 4:14 PM | Its Rose or no BCS bowl for (Score:1)
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Its Rose or no BCS bowl for Nebreska.  If they lose they almost certainly will fall ouf of the top 14.  Even in the unlikely event that they didn't,  bowls don't like to select teams who lose their conference championship game if another viable option is available.

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November 15th, 2012 at 5:19 PM | Big Ten Champ (Score:1)
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Also, having the Big Ten Champ in the Top 14 takes away one more possible at large berth.  If you have 5 of the 6 auto bids in the Top 14, there's only 9 possible at larges and the SEC is going to have a good chunk of those 9 teams but can only send 2.

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November 15th, 2012 at 3:53 PM | Huh? (Score:-1 Redundant)
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What about the requirement that we be in the BCS top 16? 

 

Thanks Thorin/Mgovideo for avatar

 

 
 
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November 15th, 2012 at 4:01 PM | I think the idea is that if (Score:4 Normal)
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I think the idea is that if everything mentioned above happens we would move up the 5 spots into the top 14/16 (whatever it is).

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November 15th, 2012 at 4:03 PM | We would be in top 14 (Score:3 Normal)
ILMichFan70
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We just pretty much need quite a few things to occur to make it happen as stated. I just think there are too many things that need to occur and go our way. We can only hope it works out that way. Would love back to back BCS bids.

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November 15th, 2012 at 4:17 PM | Good points (Score:-1 Flamebait)
Humen
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I didn't realize we were already ranked 21st. This definitely seems plausible. I also agree with your assessment that it is unlikely. However, if we do go to the Fiesta, I will definitely be in attendance. 

 

Thanks Thorin/Mgovideo for avatar

 

 
 
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November 15th, 2012 at 3:56 PM | If my aunt had balls, she'd (Score:5 Normal)
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If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

"That's tremendous, Jim."
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November 15th, 2012 at 4:04 PM | Hey! She's a nice lady! (Score:5 Normal)
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NSFW (language)

University of Dayton Class of '13 // The Twitterz

Dual QB Statistical Analysis

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November 15th, 2012 at 4:00 PM | Nice figurin'.  I don't think (Score:-1 Trolling)
phork
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Nice figurin'.  I don't think Clemson falls out of the Top14 with a loss to a top10 though.  Unless its an absolute blowout.  Would love to see someone calculate the odds on this happening.

In the end I don't see Oklahoma losing, nor you beating tOSU.

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November 15th, 2012 at 4:09 PM | You? (Score:4 Interesting)
OmarDontScare
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You?

I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?

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November 15th, 2012 at 4:24 PM | He's a domer. (Score:4 Normal)
Indy Wolverine
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He's a domer.

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November 15th, 2012 at 7:41 PM | Yes me.  Its not trolling, (Score:-1 Trolling)
phork
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Yes me.  Its not trolling, its truth.

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November 15th, 2012 at 9:08 PM | How crazy is it being (Score:2)
Kaminski16
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How crazy is it being relevant?

See it through.

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November 15th, 2012 at 10:09 PM | Punch drunk bro.   Never (Score:-1 Trolling)
phork
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Punch drunk bro.   Never thought we'd scale the mountain.

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November 15th, 2012 at 10:10 PM | Don't get ahead of yourself. (Score:3 Normal)
WolvinLA2
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Don't get ahead of yourself.

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November 16th, 2012 at 3:36 PM | Believe me, I am not.  I am (Score:0)
phork
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Believe me, I am not.  I am however booking my flights to Pasadena to savour your Rose Bowl festivities.

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November 16th, 2012 at 3:40 PM | Since you can't win a (Score:2)
WolvinLA2
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Since you can't win a national title from there, I'm OK with that.

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November 15th, 2012 at 10:08 PM | Go find another board (Score:2 Normal)
inthebluelot
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Youre ruining this one like you do the scout board.

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November 15th, 2012 at 10:16 PM | Oh come on.  My standards are (Score:-1 Trolling)
phork
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Oh come on.  My standards are higher than scout.  I don't even go to that web page.

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November 16th, 2012 at 5:35 PM | That's funny (Score:1)
inthebluelot
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Because I've called you out there too. Of course, being an ND fan, selective memory is assumed and an inherent character flaw.

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November 16th, 2012 at 11:57 PM | I have never, ever, set foot (Score:-1 Overrated)
phork
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I have never, ever, set foot on the Scout boards.  To that I will swear on my mothers life.

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