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Why do you hate Ohio State?

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November 23rd, 2011 at 7:54 PM
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Why do you hate Ohio State?

"Oh how I hate Ohio State"

It's a phrase I often hear tossed around this time of year, nicely summarizing the animosity felt between the two institutions.  We've all know the history...

The battles between Bo and Woody,

the fiercly fought games,

the great victories

and the agonizing defeats.

Along with the long history behind it, The Game often has an intense personal importance for fans.  But why do you hate Ohio State? Is there any instance that you can (Hoke) point to and say "This is the moment where I went from disliking That School in Ohio to hating them"? Or, is it a culmination of years of cheering for Michigan that have built up a steady distaste for that School down south?

For me, my dislike for Ohio elevated itself in 2005, and transformed into emnity in 2006.  I was a sophomore in high school during Michigan's great 2006 campaign.  I had been a big Michigan fan for my whole life, but I was still young and not as invested in the rivalry as I am now.  The hype for the Michigan-Ohio game that year was huge.  I was watching ESPN non-stop for days, absorbing every bit of information on The Game of The Century that I could.  Then, the unthinkable occured.  Bo, the hero of the Maize and Blue faithful and the patron saint of Michigan football, passed away.  It was heartbreaking.  Despite the fact I was too young to have seen a game by him I still looked up to him, he was a man who displayed every quality that (to use a much maligned cliché) a Michigan Man should, and thus he was a personal hero of mine.

The hype surrounding the game along with Bo's death put an immense importance in my mind.  We had to win it.  We had to win it for Bo.  We had to win it because Ohio State had beaten us two years in a row (a streak, which now seems gloomily quaint).  We had to win it to play for the national championship.

Unforetunately, in sports not everything goes your way (even for Michigan fans), and we ended up losing a close game.  I was angry at everything: Troy Smith, Ted Ginn Jr., the turf, the refs, even Shawn Crable.  How could we lose?  This was Michigan! We had such a great season, everything seemed to work in our favor until then.  In school I had to face numerous jeers from my Sparty classmates and looks of gloom from my fellow Wolverines, and I knew why.  Ohio State.  It was their fault.  It was at that time that my dislike for that southern school crystallized into the hate that so many of us feel.  And I began to hate Ohio State.

So here we are, five years later, facing a battered Ohio State team.  Michigan, on the other hand, is resurgant with our best record since that fateful 2006 season.  I cannot help but think gleefully of the great oppertunity that we have to exact revenge on Ohio State.

So as we approach this most anticipated of annual meetings, I wanted to hear the rest of the MGoUsers stories.  Why do you hate Ohio State?  And what does this rivalry mean to you?

[Note:  I know this is long post for a Board, and the mods can move it over to the diaries section if they see fit, but I put it on the board because I wanted to a discussion going, and I thought this would be the best way to start that.] 

USING GRATUITOUS AMOUNTS OF CAPS LOCK SINCE APRIL 2011

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:03 PM | No class (Score:3 Normal)
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As Ohio Stae goes, it's cut and dry...  They have no class and are proud of it!

 

Don’t look back. Something might be gaining on you.  -Satchel Paige

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November 24th, 2011 at 2:56 AM | Yep.  "Because I couldn't go (Score:1)
BlueSteel
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Yep.  "Because I couldn't go for three" rings in my head everytime I think of those idiots.

 

Nice class.

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November 23rd, 2011 at 7:58 PM | Let me count the ways... (Score:1)
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Let me count the ways...

How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:00 PM | I live in Ohio. I'll leave it (Score:3 Normal)
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I live in Ohio. I'll leave it at that.

"im saying to myself should i do it should i not. I crossed the goaline and hey...fuck it" Desmond Howard on his Heisman pose

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:16 PM | Haha. I would like to add the (Score:2 Underrated)
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Haha. I would like to add the OH-IO chant makes my skin crawl like nothing on this earth does.

"im saying to myself should i do it should i not. I crossed the goaline and hey...fuck it" Desmond Howard on his Heisman pose

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:02 PM | Easy (Score:2 Normal)
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Ten years of cheating, and their "punishment" is probably going to be getting Urban Meyer.  

 

 

 

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November 23rd, 2011 at 9:49 PM | hmmmmm.. (Score:1)
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"we're the poster child for compliance"

E. Gordon Gee

If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone

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November 23rd, 2011 at 11:14 PM | It's funny (Score:1)
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you said that because as I sat and pondered the OP's question it occurred to me that I've had a pretty steady dislike of them since I was a kid that's grown into hatred over the years. But there wasn't a singular event that made me hate them just a steady culmination of many things. Like the stories about UM fans having batteries thrown at them in the shoe, the arrogant comments/posts buck fans make or the comments players make (everyone kills). But if I had to say there was one thing that I could point to that really elevated my hate it was really tat-gate. This thought surprised me since I've been a fan for 40 years. Why all of a sudden is this event the thing that keeps coming to mind. Then I realized it's because it's the perfect blending of all the things I hate about Ohio all wrapped up into one shitty burrito. The cheating itself, the cover up, the smug reactions, the rationalizations from fans and the university, the media all over the Ohio jock strap (Cowherd/Russillo saying things like they're the crown jewel of the B1G), the weak sauce self imposed punishments followed (most likely) by equally weak NCAA punishments and finally the fact that through all of this they get the coach they have coveted for so long and it only cost them one bad season.

 

I F'ing hate those guys!!!

 
"True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is nois
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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:02 PM | that ridiculous arm in arm (Score:1)
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that ridiculous arm in arm sway back and forth thing they do in the pregame. Every time I see it, I try to ballpark how many of those guys have violated NCAA rules, whether caught or not.  

"because character wins in life and character wins on the football field....."  1-11-11

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:06 PM | Right now... (Score:2 Informative)
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Because they cheated for ten years and if you ask them think they are innocent and did nothing wrong.

"I tried to but a pencil in the light socket but it was too wide and didn't fit so I used a paperclip."-Terrelle Pryor, Future Rhodes Scholar

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November 23rd, 2011 at 9:45 PM | "Tattoos didn't affect what (Score:2)
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"Tattoos didn't affect what happened on the field" as if extra "perks" have nothing to do with recruiting.

"We've beaten Michigan the last four years.  So where's the threat?"

- Mark Dantonio

Blogging the Virginia Cavaliers at http://fromoldvirginia.blogspot.com/<

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:10 PM | I choose to hate Ohio because... (Score:2 Normal)
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...of the tradition. And the education part. And the fact that it is impossible to fail there academically, no matter how little effort is put in.

"The Artes, The Scientia, The Veritas."

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November 23rd, 2011 at 11:16 PM | This is the big one for me. (Score:1)
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This is the big one for me.  There is not even an attempt to put the student in student-athlete.

The entire Ohio State AD infrastructure is set up to make sure players never have to worry about grades or even attend any classes.  They just hang out in between football practices and games.  It is hard to recruit against that for a lot of players.

They really are da "U" of the B1G.

 

M'Dog

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November 24th, 2011 at 7:54 AM | Yes, I remember about 20-25 (Score:1)
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Yes, I remember about 20-25 years ago their star basketball player was academically ineligible following the fall semester.  Lo and behold, over Christmas break he somehow passed like 12 or 15 hours of classes and was eligible the rest of the season.

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:12 PM | Pretty Simple (Score:1)
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It's  the only fanbase in the B1G that parades blind hatred and classlessness like they just were presented the Victoria Cross or a Croix de  Guerre.

"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."

Follow the random tweets of a Michigan alum - http://twitter.com/#!/LorneEC3

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:12 PM | They are the rudest, crudest (Score:4 Normal)
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They are the rudest, crudest fanbase in all of sports and wear that title like a badge of honor.  Loud, obnoxious, boorish, and despicable are not strong enough words to describe them. Just today as I arrived home to my apartment, I was greeted outside by an overweight, ugly buckeye fan wearing an ohio hat along with cutoff t-shirt and shorts (in 45 degree weather) that exposed his poorly drawn tattoos on his shoulder and calves.  I cannot suffer these fans any longer and we need to put them back in their place on Saturday.

And when we play as a team, when the old season is over, you and I know, it's gonna be Michigan again, Michigan

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:17 PM | I know exactly why I hate (Score:1)
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I know exactly why I hate tsiO, it's the arrogance and lack of class the university and it's fans have always displayed.  Even now Smitty is saying that if tsiO receives a bowl invite they will take it.  Classy to the end. 

"The goal, the expectation of this program is the Big Ten Championship"

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:28 PM | I think they have to accept (Score:1)
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a bowl invite. The B1G wants the cash.

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November 23rd, 2011 at 10:02 PM | They're officially invited... (Score:1)
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...to the inaugural American Standard Toilet Bowl.

Michigan slammed for substance abuse - excessive use of dilithium

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:18 PM | It's their fans (Score:2 Normal)
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I think this all depends on your age.  At 32 I grew up in the 90's watching UM seemingly upset OSU every year.  Then, along came Tress and the rest has been history.  But, all the OSU fans forget so quickly that before Tress we dominated that series for a good 12 years.  I hate how short sighted they are.  A UM fan, for the most part, can give credit where credit is due, and recognize defeat.  An OSU fan on the other hand, in defeat often goes to name calling and denial.  They need to learn to give the same credit they ask for and realize there was a time before 2001 and this that this will again be a rivalry and won't stay as one-sided as it's been the last 10 years forever.

Strength equipment is expensive and guarantees you nothing.  A strong will is free and can give you everything you want.

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:59 PM | Short sighted... exactly right (Score:1)
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That is so true; the sad thing for them is the fact that when they are on the losing end, there is no over-all record to fall back on. They have an inferiority complex from being defeated at so many critical games.

"I give credit to God, first and foremost" - Denard Robinson #16

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November 23rd, 2011 at 11:26 PM | They make up their own (Score:2 Normal)
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They make up their own history.  When we were dominating them, they would make up history like "since 1972, in games decided by 10 points or less, in November in the Horseshoe, Ohio State has a winning record over Michigan." 

 

M'Dog

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November 23rd, 2011 at 9:54 PM | that time before 2001... (Score:2 Normal)
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I remember...

If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone

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November 23rd, 2011 at 11:23 PM | '91 (Score:1)
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'91

M'Dog

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:18 PM | Cuz.... (Score:1)
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They're ugly and they smell like bucknut butter....

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:21 PM | I love Michigan so much (Score:2)
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That it spills over as hated for all other teams, especially those who have mistreated my beloved most egregiously.

2013 resolution - make it onto the 2014 favorite MGoPosters post, not ironically
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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:22 PM | Wait, who is Ohio State? I (Score:2 Normal)
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Wait, who is Ohio State? I only know Ohio.

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:24 PM | for fliping over cars with (Score:1)
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for fliping over cars with Michigan license plates

903 wins most in college football

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:24 PM | In no order of personal dislike (Score:1)
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November 24th, 2011 at 9:26 AM | This is why I hate Ohio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Score:1)
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Look at these morons!!! Their idiot fans is why I cant stand them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:26 PM | Why did George Mallory climb (Score:3 Normal)
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Why did George Mallory climb Everest? Because it's there.

Why do I hate Ohio State? Because they kick puppies every time they win a game.

It's all John Navarre's fault.

 

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November 23rd, 2011 at 11:30 PM | Q:  Why do other fan bases (Score:1)
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Q:  Why do other fan bases like Texas and Nebraska take an instant disliking to Ohio State fans?

A:  Saves time.

 

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:27 PM | Easy. (Score:3 Normal)
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I hate OSU because I live in Columbus.

I actually never hated them before moving here.  I actually would root for them occasionally, such as the championship game after Miami.

After living here, I cannot stand the Buckeyes or their fans.  

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:28 PM | It's (Score:3 Normal)
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hard to explain.  I posted yesterday that I don't "hate" duke, and I don't.  Nor do I hate Notre Dame or even really Michigan State (though Gholston's antics got me pretty close to hate).  For some reason, I detest everything about Ohio State, from their uniforms, to their stadium, to their style of play.  It is not a hate without respect, I don't "look down" on them, I at times envy things about their teams (on the field, not as a program including class, fans etc.)  I just know that I am capable of cheering for Notre Dame or Michigan State if a win by one of those teams against another team would benefit us.  With Ohio, I just want pain, no matter the circumstance.

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:29 PM | Diag 2001 (Score:2 Normal)
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I graduated from UM in '97, so it was the John Cooper years and we pretty much dominated Ohio State when I was in school.  As a result, I didn't really hate Ohio all that much.  I mean, they were our rival and all, but we always beat them so what was there to hate?  Sure their fans were obnoxious, no-class idiots, but that was their problem.  Anytime they tried to talk smack, you just had to say, "scoreboard."

But  then, in 2001, I recall visiting the Diag the morning before the game--and seeing that some a-hole had dumped a full can of red paint on the M.  When I saw that, I was just filled with a rage that I have never felt about a sporting event ever before.  They had crossed the line.  They had actually done quite a bit of damage around town that weekend, but the M on the Diag was just too much.  I wanted blood.  And I was sure that when the game started later that day, we would make them pay. 

But, it didn't happen.  So instead of sending the rabble of foul-mouthed, unshowered hooligans back to Columbus with another L on their record, all we got was a mess.  So ever since then, I've pretty much been like f**k Ohio.

"You will suffer humiliation when the team from my area defeats the team from your area." -- The Onion

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:54 PM | It confuses me when I hear (Score:3 Normal)
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It confuses me when I hear Michigan fans say they didn't hate OSU "that much" during the Cooper years.  Even though we beat them every year, their fans were at the same level of jackass that they are today.  A girl I knew in high school was in the MMB (she played the clarinet) and when they went to Columbus for the 1996 game, a buckeye fan in his 40's walked up to her, punched her in the nose and then ran off.  That's right.  A middle age man, about 6 feet tall, punching a 5'2, 18 year old girl in the nose and then running off yelling, "GO BUCKS!" 

Remember Terry Glenn?  David Boston?  The "Michigan is dead," comment before the 93 game? 

I remember MLive was constantly overtaken by Buckeye fans despite the fact we were beating them every year.  It didn't matter wheather we won or lost, you couldn't get away from them.  They were like Jason Voorhees in the Friday the 13th movies. 

Even looking at the crap OSU pulled before I was born (like the players trying to rip down the banner in 73) makes me want to punch things. 

OSU fans don't even have the integrity to be embarrassed  about the crap they and their school pulls.  They thrive on it.  Bomb sniffing dogs anyone? 

Oh.....now I'm angry.  What was my original point again?

Go Blue!  Always!

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November 24th, 2011 at 1:24 AM | Joey Galloway (Score:1)
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Remember when he used to shove his face right into the camera after scoring a TD and say "All day long!  All day long!"  

Personally, that kind of stuff doesn't bother me.  I'm in the "if you don't like it, stop them" camp.  But it was pretty freaking obnoxious.

"You will suffer humiliation when the team from my area defeats the team from your area." -- The Onion

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November 24th, 2011 at 7:39 AM | OSU fans don't even have the (Score:1)
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OSU fans don't even have the integrity to be embarrassed about the crap they and their school pulls. They thrive on it. Bomb sniffing dogs anyone?

You nailed it right there.

Touchdown Michigan!

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:29 PM | Cuz (Score:1)
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I respected yet always hated ohio.  They broke alot of rules, but feel they shouldnt be punished severely.  They have a serious arrogance problem that we will address come saturday.  We will put them in their place.  By the way bring on Urban Meyer.  It will be good for the big ten and our rivalry.  I wouldn't trade hoke for him any day.  Bring on your arrogance and  Urban Meyer, we beat him and ohio before and will again and again and again  Go Blue

 

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:31 PM | Also (Score:1)
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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:36 PM | Not to be outdone (Score:1)
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November 24th, 2011 at 12:42 AM | The script ohio is actually (Score:2 Normal)
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The script ohio is actually Michgan's band's fault...ohio's band is just unoriginal.

Reality is an illusion created by an unsafe drop in blood alcohol levels that exposes one to the idiocy of others.

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November 24th, 2011 at 2:08 AM | Is that (Score:1)
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JT indicating the direction of OSU football for the coming years? Forsight or forknowledge? I'm going with forknowledge.

www.beltway.org

 

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:32 PM | Worst state ever. (Score:3 Normal)
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Worst state ever.

Syracuse '03, Michigan G'05

Space bitches, space.

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:33 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:0)
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Because I am a Michigan grad fergodsakes!

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:34 PM | Because my dad told me to. (Score:2 Normal)
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Because my dad told me to.

"A Michigan Man will coach a Michigan Team"

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:36 PM | what if they get shut out of (Score:1)
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what if they get shut out of a bowl with 6 wins?  With 10 possible bowl eligable teams, does Ohio get passed by?

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:36 PM | I grew up in Ohio, the son of (Score:3 Insightful)
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I grew up in Ohio, the son of a Michigan alumna.  Being cursed at as a child by 40-year-old strangers instilled a deep, burning hatred of that institution and all of the nonsense it stands for. I seethed quietly as the Ohio fight song blared over the PA system of my high school the day before the game. I saw countless "M Go Blow" bumper stickers on cars in parking lots and out on the street. I got middle fingers from total strangers, and have nearly gotten into more than a few accidents when OSU fans deliberately cut me off on the road. Worst of all, they have beaten us 7 years in a row, while the Columbus Dispatch put that goddamn "days since" counter up, as if the streak is going to last forever and as if the two teams play ever day (listen up Dispatch fucknuts--it's been 7 days since we last beat them BECAUSE WE PLAY ONE FUCKING DAY A YEAR).

I hate those bastards. I hate them. They can all go eat shit and die.

Hail to the college whose colors we wear,

Hurrah for the Yellow and Blue!

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:37 PM | Because ... when you go to Columbus (Score:1)
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to watch a college game with family & friends you can't find anyone class down there.  Done. Don't get me going.

Go Blue !!!

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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:39 PM | There's also this (Score:2 Insightful)
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