The title says it all. Various internet outlets have said he was healthy yet didn't travel with the team but little other info has come out since. I didn't see anything on the board about it nor have I read any remarks from the coaching staff. Is this related to his incident in April for which he was later cleared? His presence would not have made a difference but he could still prove to be a solid contributor for this team. Does anyone have any insight into why he was left home?
Why didn't Josh Furman Travel?
I doubt it was a legal thing, or he would have been announced with Fitz and Clark, right? If the coach kept three guys home because of legal issues, why would he only announce two of them? This is a tough one, but I don't think that's the issue.
I just find it odd that we made it all the way to Tuesday night without any explanation for his absence when he was supposed to be our starting kickoff returner alongside Norfleet. He has great speed and was an excellent special teams player for us last year. With our secondary depth now suddenly less than what it was four days ago, it would be nice to have him around to contribute.
If I were the coach and it was legal related, i wouldn't say anything unless it was absolutely obvious, as was the case for Frank Clark and Fitz Toussaint.
I believe Hoke simply said he didn't make the trip when someone asked. Haven't heard much else.
and the tone in which he answered that question I think says more than the answer itself.
I think Rothstein said that 'it wasn't injury related'... he said read into that whatever you want..
I think he's normally the gunner on punt coverage and Countess was playing in his place. So yeah, it could have made a big difference. Hopefully he's just dinged up and not in the dog house again.
I'm on my phone, which makes checking this more of a hassle, but I think Hoke said that Countess would have been there regardless.
Hoke has stated that Countess is normally the gunner on punt coverage.
He went to the Big House. There wasn't anyone there, so he went to Alabama. How was he supposed to know that Michigan was playing Alabama in Dallas?
I know this probably means very little to you or anyone, but thanks for the good laugh.
I lol'd. Well played, sir.
I'd say the most likely reason is a disciplinary issue, but team rules as opposed to a legal thing. Being late for curfew is a good guess. The best guess, of course, is that we won't find out from Hoke.
I heard he missed curfew.
Same thing I heard.
Now if you guys heard it from the same source, that's not so good.
I heard the same thing but it was from the guy who posted two spots above you. Does that count?
Well, if you read news anywhere from any source on the internets its supposed to be true so, yes, that definitely counts.
He was listed as the #1 guy on the 'chart for KR. I think we can all conclude we found our guy in Norfleet.
I know it's a different animal but I would love to see Norfleet in at punt returner.
I liked what I saw from Norfleet as potential from a freshman in his first game, so I don't want this to sound critical of Norfleet, but it's not like he was extremely successful. He has a lot speed, but he will need to actually look for cuts at some point. He averaged 22 yards a return.
For comparison, Tay Odoms averaged 21 yards a return* and I don't think anyone would watch his returns and say he's obviously "the guy" to return kicks for any team.
*obvious caveats about kickoffs from 35 vs. 30
Our blocking on Kick Returns was awful, there were usually about 4-6 unblocked guys everytime. I thought Norfleet did a great job and I'm willing to bet he scores at least 1 touchdown on a KR this year.
Furman and Norfleet will both be back on KOs...my assumption is that typically Norfleet will get the ball but if they're going "left" and "right" then Furman should get his fair share.
As for punt return. Norfleet is #2 behind Gallon.
“I don’t need to take you through a process. I just resolved it.”
I like the way Hoke has been handling these disciplinary issues. It would have been easy for him to start Toussaint on Saturday, but he knows that these aren't just football players. I like his style. Definitely keeping Michigan classy.
Easy to start Toussaint this Sat or last Sat?
I just wish Hoke would give a truthful answer here and not hide something by being vague. What's he hiding?
Nothing. It is best for local media to know as little as possible, especially the Freep.
Hoke is clearly straight from the School of Schembechler.The media isn't given what they don't need to know.
I can understand how this would be agitating in the world of social media, but it's got it's pluses. If Furman's got personal reasons that he couldn't make the trip, then maybe it's not anyone outside of Schembechler Hall's business to know. Takes some pressure off Furman that the outside world doesn't know his problems.
Not saying Furman currently has problems. Just speaking hypothetically.
Furman's a grown man. It's between him and the coaches (but let's not stop the speculation).
Furman was heard to say, "I ain't flying on no airplane!" just before the trip.
But did anyone tried to trick him with a spiked glass of milk. B.A. style.
Try toast points next time.
Rest of team will likely MAKE curfew the rest of the season.
You know, this game was probably the perfect one to use for all of our punishments. Hold guys out of a game we likely wouldn't have won with the, yet they still learn their lesson.
Looking at this at an educational or parental level.....sometimes Coach Hoke is protecting his players from both the media and the fans. We are making speculation here, but we cannot destroy Furman's character because of whatever he did because we honestly don't know what he did. For example, if a friend of the family asked why my son was grounded for a reason unknown to this friend, I would not feel obligated to tell this friend. It would be between me and my son. Coach Hoke does view these young men as family and mentors them in fatherly manner.
I don't necessarily like that I don't know what Furman did to not travel, but I'm willing to live with it.
I like not knowing as much information in this case. Since Toussaint and Clark were already out for disciplinary reasons, it was one less piece of bad press I had to read before the game.
Because he's smart and is saving his money for retirement. #antijoke
Furman was being economical and opted for the staycation
Because he didn't move his pivot foot when he picked up his dribble?
Is this thing on?
has hurt my brain.
Are funny together.
Isn't it possible that Furman, who hasn't played a meaningful snap on defense in 2 years, and isnt' on a defensive depth chart, isn't one of our best X number of guys?
I'm not the world's biggest Josh Furman fan, but I'm guessing he would have been more useful than Drake Johnson, Joe Reynolds, etc. and they traveled to the game.
Teams usually take 70 guys to away games; he's likely one of the best 70. This almost certainly wasn't about the depth chart.
It was a major infraction of Article 1: "Bros before Hoes".
players but damn Furman is so frustrating....watching clips of him and his speed he could be something special
Cmon doggy, we need a new gunner, step up.
think we have to preface everything with "it would not have made a difference" anymore. I, for one, believe the availability of Furman, Touissant, Clark, and Countess, would have made a difference in the football game. The loss of two starters and four potentially significant contributors makes a difference no matter who you are playing.
The presence of Toussaint, Countess, and Clark might have closed the gap a bit; the presence of Josh Furman probably wouldn't have had any impact whatsoever, since he's a special teamer and a third string safety. Regardless, we lost that game in the trenches. Clark couldn't have stopped the up-the-gut running game, and Toussaint wouldn't have had much room to run, either.
He didn't make the trip because he violated team rules and let's just leave it at that. He is not in any legal trouble and is healthy.