Elvis needs some love here. My list...
Elvis needs some love here. My list...
If he hadn't hurt his knee in the '79 Gator Bowl my fantasy is that Michigan would have swept the table in 1980. As it was, they started 1-2 but won the rest of their games, including the Rose Bowl.
Harbaugh was my childhood hero. Ricky Leach is the first Michigan player whose name I knew. Elvis had the best name. Griese led the team to the NC. Brady was underrated and has proved that. Denard was the most electric, and you have to love him attending other M sporting events on a regular basis.
After those six, I still enjoyed the careers of Henne, Wangler, Collins and even Navarre.
The best thing about this question is the reminder that we have been pretty blessed as fans when it comes to QBs. I hope Devin Gardner is part of the discussion in a year or two.
If you held a gun to my head right now, I'd go with Griese because of the 97 season and the 96 upset of OSU. If you held a gun to my head tomorrow, I might go with someone else.
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Repeat many times, smoke blunt, sign rap deal, tour the world (skip East Lansing)
Probably get negged for this, but one of my favorite QBs is Tate Forcier. Gutsy litte bastard..always questioned, always doubted...and always seemed to pull out the unexpected finishes...
I am probably alone in thinking a Forcier/Robinson tandem could have worked - both rotating out of the QB/RB spot - read-option shred would have been fun to see - despite neither being a huge threat with their arms.
Forcier was 5-7 as a starter. "Always" pulled off the unexpected finishes is a bit exaggerated.
Record not great, but neither was the team around him. We weren't expected to even compete with ND but he and Stonum pulled off the upset. Will always have great memories of that come from behind win:
Too much credit towards stonum in my opinion
For his outstanding dedication and desire to help the team, I'd say Devin Gardner
You said favorite, not best
i can't remember any exact plays or anything, but he was the qb when i was beginning to like football.
turns out, it was a pretty good choice. following that there were some tough michael taylor, demetrius brown years, before settling into a nice comfy grbac, collins, etc. routine.
1. Denard Robinson 2. Devin Gardner 3. Chad Henne
Harbaugh. First football game I ever watched was Michigan-Nebraska Fiesta Bowl in '86.
Henne/Denard for me. When Henne was a freshman is when I really started to follow and understand football. Before that I was just a little kid that liked Michigan.
I was 14 in 1973 and not really much of a football fan. Then I woke up to Michigan football. Denny Franklin was the man. Sold ... Michigan fan for life.
How many of the other Michigan QB's being mentioned have a National Championship ring? Griese is the only modern era Michigan QB to win one, so that has to stand for something.
Mostly because all the most irritating people on the message board I used to frequent ripped on him 24-7. He didn't have great talent but he kept plugging away, and his senior year he led the team that thumped OSU and won the conference outright.
Exactly my thoughts. He was never supposed to play nearly as early or as much as he did, he brought out an ugly side of our fanbase I'd never seen before, and yet he was nothing but classy, stuck with it, and walked out a winner in that 2003 OSU game.
He's not the best Michigan QB I've seen, but I doubt I'll ever be prouder of or more impressed with one than I am with him.
Best college career - Henne
Most Talented - Henson
Best post-Michigan - Brady
Most exciting - Shoelace
Leach/Harbaugh were way before my time...so this is '94 to present.
If by best college career, you mean the longest, then OK. Otherwise Henne was 0-4 vs. OSU, 1-3 in bowl games, his sophomore year was coined The Year of Infinite Pain by Brian, and then he capped it off with The Horror and being hurt his senior year. You can watch WH's Harbaugh tribute (if it hasn't been deleted) and know he had a better career. Grbac threw to a Heisman winner, Todd Collins is third all-time in passing efficiency behind Grbac and Harbaugh, Griese beat OSU three times, won a Rose Bowl and a national championship, Henson is still the last Michigan QB to win in Columbus, and even Navarre beat OSU.
Grbac to Desmond? Harbaugh and Rose Bowl? Todd Collins? Drew Henson? John freakin' Navarre? IT'S LIKE MICHIGAN HAS HAD A TON OF GREAT PLAYERS OR SOMETHING.
Last time one of these was posted I went with Johnny Wangler. This time I think I'll go with Michael Taylor
Someone upthread posted that folks favor the QB of their campus years. That leaves me with Demetrius Brown, Michael Taylor and Elvis Grbac. At the time, I was always happy when Taylor played because he seemed to facilitate Bo's conservative game plan as an option QB and was accurate enough to lob the occasional bomb to McMurtry and Calloway. Unfortunately my man couldn't stay healthy and that might have ulitmately cost us in '89.
I actually latched onto that particular post as well. In my case, that would leave me saying Griese, Brady and Henson, which is actually a really solid trio as Michigan QBs go, so I might very well run with that as an answer - along with Dilithium and Henne.
In my time on campus, that trio of Griese, Brady and Henson went 3-1 against MSU and Ohio State, as I recall, and there was also the National Championship, the 2000 Orange Bowl and the Big Ten Championship in 1998. It was a most excellent time.
Ricky Leach, the guts and glue of the Maize and Blue.
Henne, Denard, griese, Brady, Navarre, Denard (again, just for fun)
I am going with Navarre. He took a lot of unwarranted abuse and handled it with dignity.
He had decent junior and senior seasons, was a nice guy, and did a lot of charity work.
I remember that once he was interviewed by some TV lady who asked him what it was like to be a big man on campus and he responded that he couldn't go out on to campus, because people would try to pick fights with him. How disgusting is that. His dad also sat in the stands and heard a lot of abuse hurled at his son.
Navarre was a class act and had a solid college career.
Demetrius Brown. I believe he was the qb on the day I became a Michigan fan thanks to my older brother. That was Earle Bruce's last game; the 23-20 loss. I have been a huge fan ever since despite living in sw Ohio.
Henne. Very underrated and overshadowed by Hart/Manningham/Long.
He started for 4 years...put up crazy stats...went to 2 Rose bowls (once as a true freshman) and beat Tim Tebow and Urb's asses.
He is generally looked down upon because of his record against OSU. :(
How can you have Griese 5 when he won a championship?
You people are crazy. Griese went 3-0 as a starter against Ohio...upsetting undefeated #2 Ohio and Heisman trophy winner Eddie George in 1995, upsetting undefeated #2 Ohio in 1996 and beating a 10-1, #4 Ohio in 1996 allowing Michigan to play for the national championship. Then he had the best game of his career in the National Championship game in the Rose Bowl...AND WE WON!
And he did it with 1/4 of the athleticism of Shoelace and half the talent of a Henne/Henson/Brady.
But had almost nothing to do with them. Two years it was all about the defense, and the other it was all about the running back.
And I wouldn't say his talent was that bad. He had a better career than Henson and probably Henne in the NFL. He did have a Hall of Fame dad.
...beat Ohio teams ranked within the top 4...3 times in 3 years...and won a national championship. Griese was not the best QB...he only got the staring job because Scott Dreisbach got injured in 1995 and 1996. He is my favorite because he did more with less.
Several were better. None were more electrifying than Denard. But Griese is my favorite.
For all the reasons you mentioned (do we have any other QB that beat OSU three times?), plus the following:
* Griese actually got kicked off the team for getting into a bar fight. He then set his schedule to work out at the same time the team did and worked his way back onto the squad as the pooch punter. THE POOCH PUNTER. Then he leads us to an undefeated season and the first national title in 50 years?!
* As a senior, he was just plain heady. Cool as a cucumber. The '97 Iowa game stands out. We went into the half down 21-7. Griese came out in the 2nd half and threw for 2 TD's and ran for another. Game won, perfect season preserved.
* 3 TD passes, two for 50+ yards, in the 1998 Rose Bowl with the national title on the line. Also, on that last drive he converted something like three 3rd and longs, at least one of them be spinning out of a sack, taking off, and lunging to pick up the 1st down by half a yard. What tough customer. No points on that drive, but it ended with WSU pinned on their own, what, 7 yard line?
* Watching his dad call several of our games that year with Keith Jackson (including the Rose Bowl) as everything came together for young Brian and the rest of the squad was a really unique experience.
¡Viva el catorce!
Griese, quite honestly, wasn't very good until his senior year. And even then, while he had an efficient, mistake-free season, he was not required to win us many games himself, other than the Rose Bowl. He had the great luxury of having one of the all-time great defenses on the other side of the ball. Our other QBs haven't had that.
Harbaugh. Guaranteed victory over OSU and delivered.
....followed closely (in no particular order) by Tom Brady, Rick Leach and John Harbaugh. Dennis Franklin was Michgan's QB when I first fell in love with UM Football. Back in the glory days of the Big 2/Little 8 and the 10 Year War, he had an astounding 30-2-1 record as a starter yet never went to a bowl game. Unfortunately, the 2 losses and 1 tie were all against Ohio, with the two loses by a combined total of 5 points. He didn't have gaudy stats, but was a great leader and clutch performer - a true Michigan Man.
Agreed. Dennis Franklin was amazing