As the title states, who gets awarded the #1 & #2 jerseys next yr? Just about all of the season is hashed. Will it be no one again (besides Vincent Smith) or...
- #1 contenders: Roundtree, Gallon, Stonum
- #2 contenders: Floyd, Countess
I think this would be an interesting question for Heiko to pose at a press conference, but not until after the bowl game. Any time before that and we'll get coach speak. Anyway, your predictions?
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No way a freshman
should get #1, no matter how good he is. Prove yourself for a year and then you get it.
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you do realize that braylon
you do realize that braylon was the only WR who switched to the #1 jersey. everyone else (terrell, carter, butterfield) wore it from their freshman year.
#1
And it is now an endowed scholarship for an outstanding receiver.
Times have changed.
#1 being given to freshmen is no longer the case.
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Derrick Alexander also
Derrick Alexander also switched, though he only wore his other jersey as a redshirt.
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#1 goes to:
Dorial Green Beckham
If you have to ask who should get the number, then no one should get the number.
Seconded. I'm sorry but no one has shown the potential to be awarded any of those numbers just yet
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Blake Countess by his junior
Blake Countess by his junior year. I'm calling it.
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I agree, no one currently on
I agree.
No one currently on the team is worthy of the #1 yet, although that may have more to do with our offense not being a strong passing team than their abilities.
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#2 should definitely be
#2 should definitely be Countess.
#1 I don't think anyone has separated themselves enough to have earned it. Though if Gallon can make his invisibility cloak work more often I think he'd be next in line/
It doesn't matter what jersey
It doesn't matter what jersey number one wears because of the new math.
Mattison
Mattison #1
Mattison would only be
Mattison would only be eligible for the #2 jersey.
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Stefon Diggs #1 in 2013
Stefon Diggs #1 in 2013
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None for the #1 jersey but
None for the #1 jersey but the potential that Countess is showing this year he could very well earn the #2 jersey by his junior year.
No one deserves #1.
No one has impressed enough to earn it. You could blame Denard's passing but even taking noten of that, no one has dominated enough. Hemingway has been the closest, but he's graduating. Gallon has been impressive but not consistently enough. Roundtree has been neither great nor bad this year, just good. Kovacs for #2 but I'd like to see them wait and give it to Countess in 2 years.
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Your title
makes it sound like they've been awarded this week.
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What about #21? That's the
What about #21? That's the new WR Legacy number, right? Junior's a senior.
If I were making the decidions (not what I think will happen):
#2 - Kovacs for his senior year. He deserves this for so many reasons! Hopefully Countess the following year. I'm 100% OK giving #2 to a safety.
#1 - X
#21 - possibly Roy Roundtree. He'll be our best WR, and a senior.
We have two WR #'s now so I think we should be a little more slack on passing these out. To me, #1 is still The Elite jersey, with #21 a slightly easier jersey to earn.
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Roundtree seems to have built
Roundtree seems to have built a reputation on two football games his freshman year, he has had more disappointing plays than good the past 2 years. Too many drops, and yes I realize Braylon dropped many routine balls, but he made spectacular catches on a regular basis and was a true game changer. I don't see anyone deserving of either the #1 or #21 right now.
#1 And #2
I will entrust that decision to the staff. Personally, there is some more work that needs to be done before we talk about #1, but as for #2, maybe Countess or Kovacs.
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suggestion
Retire the whole idea. I like the idea of recognizing a player's contribution, but Hoke (with his apparently low-maintenance personality) doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who likes to publicly hold some players above others.
Also, I can't ponder this topic without thinking of BRAYLON EDWARDS. (I mean bad Braylon, not the one of the '04 Michigan State game and all the other marvelous on-field contributions.)
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#1 to Denard
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this better not be another
this better not be another one of those "denard should play receirver" posts!!!
Braylon said that Denard
Braylon said that Denard should get it.
"After all was said and done, there was nothing left to do."
I was all set to say Kovacs for #2
this year with no one getting #1 (as many posters have stated). However, Jasper's reason for retiring the whole idea made sense. Maybe the idea isn't retired, rather responsibility given to the team to select. Not sure about this, just thinking out loud. Btw, 1 day. I love being on Central time and having games start at 11am! GO BLUE!
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I wouldn't have the team
I wouldn't have the team decide. If the team decides feelings would definitely get hurt. Because take, Roundtree and Stonum, both up for the #1 hypothetically. The team comes into vote, Stonum gets the nod from his teammates and 'Tree is feeling like "WTF mates?". Or the #2 gets selected to be worn by Countess, Floyd is like "Dang, I am not as good as this Freshmen. Weak Sauce".
Stuff like this can play with a guys head easily and can almost be a distraction. If the team chooses then it could potentially divide a lockerroom and right now, that is the last thing we want. Especially, since this team has come together SO well after all they have been through.
Just my two cents.
You have to be an
You have to be an All-American type player to get the NO. 1 jersey and there is no way anyone on this team deserves that.
The no. 2 jersey I dont think has been earned either yet, Clountess does have the best shot in the future, like someone said, probably his junior year.
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Whaaaat?
"You have to be an All-American type player to get the NO. 1 jersey..." You do? Somebody tell Tyrone Butterfield that one; he will be pleased to hear it. If we are going to limit the #1 to only wide receivers and only with all-american potential, we might as well retire the number right now rather than give it out once every 10-15 years.
I thought Braylon giving a scholarship to the player who wears #1 was a great idea, but somehow this basic endowment has morphed into an ugly monster: now the #1 has to be a wide receiver (Braylon's initial gift did not specify that). Now it has to be a great player (Braylon's initial gift did not specify that). Now it has to be somebody who has played one or more seasons for Michigan wearing a different number (Braylon's initial gift did not specify that). Lately it seems like Braylon thinks that he has the right to veto the wearer of a Michigan uniform (Braylon's initial gift specified that he did not have that right). Now the #2 and even the #21 seem to be falling victim to the same idea that they must be "earned" by a player in a specific position.
This has all turned into something that is very un-Michigan, and I hate it. It is the opposite of "the team, the team, the team."
Beat Ohio.
Beat Ohio.
Juniors and Seniors only should be
considered for these jerseys. I believe Braylon has that in writing about the No. 1 jersey. I don't think a player can prove he is worthy of the honor of waering either jersey until he is a junior at least.
Countess could get there and Kovacs has proven his mettle and deserves something, but I hold those two numbers in the highest esteem, I don't feel there is anyone currently worthy of that level of praise and esteem.
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And by the way: BEAT OHIO
BEAT OHIO
that is all.
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I'm not a fan of the #1/#2
I'm not a fan of the #1/#2 jersey thing. It's a silly question for fans and a source of drama for the team. If I was Hoke, I probably would never let anyone wear the jersey just so I wouldn't have to deal with it.
Dont get the logic w/stonum
Lets give a player who was suspened for a year the #1 jersey.
Gallon should wear number 128
Roundtree????
There is no WR on this roster yet that should wear it.
I personally am not a big fan of the legacy jersey deal. There will be a pissing match eventually on whose patch or multiple patches end up on the jersey.
Does anyone doubt that Braylon thinks he should have a patch on it when it comes back and will say something stupid about it........
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Easy
#1: Beat
#2: Ohio
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You are right
You are right, Ohio is a number 2.
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Hemingway
It would be nice to see Hemingway wear the 1 jersey against Ohio. He's been a big play maker all year
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DENARD realistically deserves
DENARD realistically deserves the No.1..none of our recievers has been putting Braylon Edwards numbers...
Idk about No.2
Hold off
I would say hold off on both jerseys for next year. 1 and 2 must be special players. Make them hungry for them, they must earn them.
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No one has earned the #1 jersey yet. In my mind, the #1 needs to go to a WR that he other teams account for every week an he still makes plays. Through double teams and getting jammed like hell, he still makes catches. And he doesn't drop balls.
Countess might earn the #2 jersey, but not yet. Teams don't throw away from him yet. We don't line him up against other's best WRs yet.
In sum, no one is there yet.
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Denard / Countess
If we're going to use numbers in an honorary manner, they're about not only on-field excellence but off-field character.
#21 appears to be around to honor a WR, and surely more honorary numbers are on the way for other positions (i.e. #20 for RB, #77 for OT). These honorary numbers lose meaning if they don't retain a positional identitiy.
But #1, if it's going to be used the way Braylon and others imagine, should go beyond position and go beyond on-field talent. Despite the impressive history of great WR wearing #1 (and some DB and not-so-great WR), Braylon's the only real prcedent for being 'awarded' the number as an honor. The tradition was defined with Carr convincing him the jersey required not only talent but also maturity and leadership. #1 should be about leadership and character first but also about a dominant game-breaking talent that the defense always has to pay attention to and regularly assign extra-defenders towards.
Denard's the obvious choice. {That is, if he wants it. He might prefer that 16 become the number that gets honored for QBs}.
If we keep it to WR exclusively we're going to run into a dynamic where #21 is secondary to #1 which is a) weird and b) a dishonor to Desmond, who, some of you might be too young to remember, was a better player than most if not all the guys who wore #1 AND a better exemplefier of the 'Michigan Man' character (regardless of how you define it, Desmond's a better man.) Conclusion - #1 doens't have to be a WR.
As for #2, I guess the idea is that it's the #1 for defense? This seems strange for a team that wants to identify itself as being defensive-oriented but...Woodson,.nuff said.... Like #1, it has to go beyond position. David Harris would have looked good wearing #2. Brandon Graham could have worn it if you ask me.
Countess looks great and seems to have the personality to match. For whatever reason, it seems premature to give anyone the number after a freshman year, but I don't know what more Countess could do in this year. I'd let him know he's got a shot at it and, if all goes well, give it to him going into his junior year.
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Could Kovacks be #2? Or do you have to be a cb
1=Diggs
Is the two for any DB? If so, Kovacs, otherwise, Countess.
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