i find this extremely interesting
Who is your starting five?
Burke, Hardaway, GR3, McGary, Morgan.
Stauskas, Vogrich, Horford with major minutes off the bench
I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?
I'd go with that lineup as well. Too much talent in McGary to sit him on the bench much (which who is probably the most likely to not start, IMO). I would also add that Levert gets some major minutes as he has been talked up quite a bit as well.
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Replaces Morgan as the starter. I think it was pretty clear he had won that job last year before the injury.
Horford only started the first game. He played deep into the non-conference schedule before he suffered his season-ending injury. Horford played some solid defense, but he was pretty ineffective on the offensive side, which is why I think Beilein picked Morgan as the main guy. I think Horford has a shot at getting some starting time if he improves (seems likely), but I don't agree with many people when they have him starting at the 4 spot. His body fits better there because of Morgan and McGary's massive frames, but he doesn't have the offensive firepower in my opinion to do well there. I anticipate he will be Michigan's best 6th man this year.
Also, I know we have Spike but I could see Stauskas backing up Burke at PG. He's got great handle in all the film I've seen.
I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?
Not to get hung up on terms, but Stauskas isn't a PG; he does have a nice handle, but a PG is something that he ain't. Stauskas would have no chance defensively against a top notch point guard, and it wouldn't be playing to his strengths offensively to play the Point. Nothing against Stauskas, I just kinda doubt he's ever played PG. Stauskas is a 2 or a 3 all day.
Just the same, Spike might have a nice jumper (he does actually), but that doesn't make him a 2, Spike is a PG.
With the caveat that McGary's knee is okay, I'd like to see:
Burke, Hardaway, Robinson, McGary, Morgan
With Spike, Vogrich, Caris, Horford, McLimans, and Stauskas as a legitimate 11 deep lineup coming off the bench. Who knows, maybe even Akunne or Bielfeldt will get some significant minutes against not-so-great competition.
When's the last time Michigan's 11th best player was someone like Caris Levert or McLimans or Stauskas? When Belein started I think those guys might've even been as high as the #3 player on the team (after Manny. Exciting times.
Agree with everything here except the Stauskas bit. He's not close to the 11th best player. More like 6th or 7th.
I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?
May be true. My reasoning for leaving it at McLimans/Stauskas/Levert as the 9th/10th/11th was:
Spike -- super important position. Maybe he isnt as talented but I think he will be far higher than he 11th most important person.
Horford -- if you believe the hype, he has moved into the top-6 (if not the top-5).
Vogrich -- mostly giving him the benefit of the doubt with experience and solid play last year.
But you're right, the fact that any of these 6 players would, by default, be our 11th best player, is freaking crazy. Any of these 6 would probably be in the top-7 at most teams in the country.
If Horford's knee is OK, we might see:
Burke
Hardaway
Robinson
Horford
Morgan (or McGary)
Burke seemed to indicate at media days that Horford was playing the 4 in their "Big" lineup, so I'm interested to see how that shakes out.
Ill go with Burke, tim, vogrich, robinson, horford. That's a pretty athletic lineup apart from vogrich. I think he will eventually be replaced by stauskas or levert. And Morgan and McCarthy will get heavy minutes
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Who is this McCarthy you speak of? Are there Communists that need to be removed from the B1G?!?
Mine: Burke, Tim, GRIII, McGary and Horford
Major Minutes off the bench: Morgan, Vogrich, Stauskus and Levert
McLimans and Albrecht will get a few minutes each half.
Who is this McCarthy you speak of? Are there Communists that need to be removed from the B1G?!?
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Nice starting five.
Bring Avery Queen, Kevin Gaines, and Leland Anderson off the bench and you're in business.
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Robin Benzing off the bench first.
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I don't know about you, but I'd start Maurice Seawright.
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The less I see Vogrich, the happier I am...
Burke, Hardaway, Glenn, McGary, Horford
Could also see Burke, Hardaway, Glenn, Stauskas, Horford if we go for a small lineup
Morgan/Stauskas/McGary off the bench
Why the Vogrich hate?
I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?
Trey, Timmmay!, GRIII, White Thunder and Morgan.
I think Vogrich and Horford come off the bench first (and Jon may possibly take that starting spot from Morgan with the way Beilein and co have been talking about him), followed by Stauskas, Akunne, Albrecht and McLimans, with everyone else maybe sprinkled in here and there. I do believe though that once the big games start happening, Trey isn't going to let Eso or Spike get very much meaningful pt.
Fact. Hardaway will be playing the 3 in jbs offense.
1 trey
2 stauskus
3 thj
4 mm
5 Morgan
GrIII 6th man at the 3 and 4
Vogrich at back up 2
Horford at 5
Burke is going to get monster minutes at point but maybe spike backs him up, no idea.
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Maybe we see him come off the bench and be a reliable 6th man? Apparently he has a lot of energy, that'd be huge for this team.
To start the season I think you see:
Burke, Hardaway, Vogrich, Beilfeldt, Morgan (More expereince & known offensive skill sets) This also leaves McGary and GRIII to come off the bench together to take advantage of their expereince together. It also brings in very athletic high energy guys as your reserves.
By B1G depending on how people perform it may shift to:
Burke, Hardaway, GRIII, McGary, Morgan.
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I agree with the experience argument for the first few games. Beilein and all the players have discussed that there will probalby be a lot of revolving lineups through the first few games. However, I don't see Bielfeldt starting a single game this year. I think he will be a name that surprises a lot of people off the bench, but how would he possibly start over Horford? Horford has more experience than Bielfeldt if you're going with that argument.
I could see Vogrich sliding into the starting lineup the first few games, but I really think GR3 and even Stauskas are probably better options in the long run. Vogrich was very inconsistent and if he's not making 3 pt shots, he's not that much of a weapon. He's plays decent defense, but I wouldn't be surprised a bit if GR3's defense is already better.
The reasoning behind Bielfeldt vs. Horford is that Morgan and Horford's games are very similar. Beilfeldt offers something different and he has a year in the system. Not saying you could not see Horford and Morgan on the floor at the same time, but I would bet Morgan & Horford play the same 5 position and split time, while the 4 position eveutally get's rotated between McGary, GRIII and Beilfedlt depending on what Beilein wants on the floor. In this scenario, Bielfeldt makes sense to get the early look.
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I think lavert will enter starting lineup as season goes by, here is my tourney starting 5...
Trey, Caris, THJ, GRIII and Morgan/McGary
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Stauskas, Vogrich, Bielfeldt, McGary, and McLimans
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Appling, Harris, Dawson, Payne, Nix
Probably will see a good amount of Kearney, Valentine, and Byrd off the bench.
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Starting five= Burke, GR3, THJ, Horford, McGary
...Trey Burke will not be in the starting lineup against Northern Michigan.
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Burke (now that he's out - obvi not), TH Jr, GRIII, Horford, McGary
I know that Beilein has released 4 of the starters, but this (barring injury or penalties) would be my starting 5
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Per MGoBlue's notes from the roundtable, the four that Beilein is sure will start are Albrecht, Hardaway, Jr., Morgan and Robinson, with four or five potential options for the fifth spot.
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Burke
Hardaway
GRIII
McGary
Morgan
Vogrich is the first guy off the bench.
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