Who would you like to see on the Non-Conference schedule in 2016
"Mid level big east team" - MAC will be a better conference than the Big East by 2016.
RDT told me this, so it must be fact. Dude never lies.
While I see your point about it already being a tough schedule, by 2016 our 2012 and 2013 recruiting classes will be reaching their stride, and a run at the National Championship is a realistic possibility. We should take on someone who we would have a realistic chance of beating and who will not hurt our strength of schedule. A solid, but not top tier SEC school would be nice to round out the schedule.
Plus, then I would only have to drive a couple of hours to the game.
^ Seconded, or any quality opponent really. Let's see some good football.
The 2012 guys who don't redshirt will be gone by 2016, so we don't have a great read on what our team will look like by then.
Good point, plus there will be busts, early losses to the NFL, attrition, etc. But I stand by my point simply because we're recruiting some great players, and I'm optimistic that Hoke's recruiting success will continue into the future.
is due for a trip to TBH.
OT...the lady and I have seriously thought about a road trip to Slippery Rock for a game. It would be tremendous to get a group together some Saturday when M is on the road. Stay Fri/Sat nights, tailgate, hit the pub after, etc.
when's their next game during a michigan bye week?
I live in AZ, so a game in AZ or So Cal would be nice.
Much cheaper than my annual flight for 4 to A2.
Agreed. At UCLA would be ideal, but any CA or AZ school, on the road of course, would be my preference as well.
Penn State. No, I did not misread the title.
I would like to see a national Semi-Final + National Championship game on the schedule.
teams like Boston College, Virginia, UConn, etc. Games we SHOULD win, but not complete cupcakes either. We used to play Wake Forest, but they were horrible back then IIRC. San Diego State was a good example from last year.
Would also like to get AZ and RR up to AA too. (Not trying to start a shitstorm on this thread either.)
I'll take on anyone
Wow, you'll personally be on the team in 2016?? Well that's exciting!
Georgia in Athens, GA or Georgia Tech in Atlanta... gain some exposure to the Georgia recruits. (Georgia Tech since the lady friend went there.)
As a current Atlanta resident, I agree for selfish reasons. UGA would be a great addition to the schedule when Notre Dame rotates off at the end of the decade.
Schedule a cupcake or any other team.
If our projected team is as good as we think it will be (based on our recruiting classes) then going undefeated in the B1G or otherwise will be convincing enough for a National Championship bid. How many other teams have gone undefeated in conference play and not been invited to the top?
This is an interesting point, especially given the new playoff format. Even if there might by some chance have been 3 undefeated teams previously with one left out, now they all get to the national semi, so scheduling cupcakes isn't as big a deal beyond an aesthetic and recruiting standpoint. There's no way an undefeated Big10 team won't be top 4.
Although I agree with you that if we go undefeated we'll almost certainly get a spot in the playoff, the reason teams schedule tough games is to set themsevles apart if they don't go undefeated. Most years, there aren't more than a couple teams who go undefeated, and some years there aren't any.
So, yes, if we have a cupcake schedule and go undefeated, we're probably good. If we have a cupcake schedule and slip up once, we're probably screwed, which is why it's best to schedule tough (or at least tough-ish) games and win them. If you think you have a National Championship shot, you better be able to beat a top-25 OOC team, or you don't deserve to go anyway.
A home date against a service academy or MAC first.
Then the second date I want away at San Jose State for mostly personnel reasons. (Hey, I live out there and it’s my birthday. So tickets to the game would make a very happy birthday present for me. /s)
Do you need to employ new personnel when we don't play in California? ;)
Um, yep, I take a personal interest in my personnel. That and I can also be a bit dyslexic. 8(
Teams that will likely make a bowl game, or a rematch against Mississippi State.
Georgia or Florida or Texas or Oklahoma or Kansas ( beat Weis up even more )
Bad SEC teams to pad our stats against them
"No such thing." - ESPN
Don't schedule another service academy, ever, ever, ever. Who wants to boo the Air Force or Army? It leads to a vastly suboptimal stadium experience.
Bring in Youngstown State and beat up on the school that spawned Jim Tressel.
Then, bring in a random team like....Kansas, and beat up on Charlie White.
Ok, good point. I retract my original service academy and raise you one lesser school like South/Central Florida, a lesser TX school, Rice, Houston, etc. as a first opponent at home to keep the TX and/or FL recruits “Blue Conscious”.
I still want to go to San Jose State for my birthday though. /s
Some memories are too painful to ever forgive or forget.
it is possible to cheer for our beloved Wolverines without booing the service academy.
yep -- pretty much happens every game.
The Blue Hens hosting the Richmond Spiders.
Some other non-conference ideas; an ACC team. I'm mostly thinking Duke.
Or, Wyoming, which has had a good program and done okay in the Mountain West.
Personally, I think the pinnacle of out-of-conference scheduling is, or will be, home-and-home series with SEC teams. I want them to come to Ann Arbor; I want to show off our game-day experience to the people of the Southeast. And, I want to go to some of those places for football. (And golf, and cocktails...)
I say bring on a top notch school. Like some of the others have said, the recruits we are getting will be at their peak and we will likely be somewhere near the top. Even if we drop one or two games that year we could still have a chance at the play offs and we will only get better by playing better opponents.
one snack cake and one "name, but not too big a name." Directional Michigan school for opener and Army, BC, Wake Forest, Vandy, Rutgers type for 9/24.
2) NC State
3) Iowa St
4) Georgia Tech
All have are Top 25 ish with significant following, would increase our national recruiting base and are respectable football names. In addition, they are relatively close proximity.
I would prefer us to play 4 cupcake teams like everyone else does..
NOT a season ticket holder. Wins are great and all, but it sucks to drop 3-400 dollars on shit games 4 times in September.
...who might like that scheduling.
now you've done it.
I was under the impression that the goal was to have B1G teams playing 2 PAC opponents per season by 2017. Since Michigan is Leading the way with 2 games set up in 2015, I would love for them to add a strong PAC team in 2016; the next home-and-home series.
USC has ND and Texas A&M on the schedule for 2016, and only Texas for 2017 (although I would have to assume that they are going to renew their series with Notre Dame.) Such suggests that they need a home-and-home to start with a B1G opponent... would the PAC-12 really leave the B1G with the upper hand in the unofficial annual tourney by allowing their historical #1 to stay on the sidelines? I think not. USC will be jumping into this interconference brawl. (And their "But, we always have to play ND as an OOC opponent" will hold no water against a UM offer.)
So, USC in 2016 at home (when M's schedule is already tilted to a difficult away-schedule) and USC away in 2017 (when M's schedule is tilted to a strong home slate.)
Add in a home game vs. Va Tech for 2016, and we get:
Va Tech to open - an always highly rated team (usually overrated,) with a strong chance to be the ACC champion (giving us added cache in what is sure to be a championship-caliber year,) with plenty of pre-game exposure in a fertile recruiting zone.
At Notre Dame - an always overrated team, with an unfortunate number of interested alumn across the country, meaning plenty of pre-game exposure in the national media.
Colorado - A middling PAC-12 opponent. Hopefully strong opponent, but definitely beatable.
USC - A top-tier PAC-12 opponent, with a strong chance to be the PAC-12 champion (sanctions be damned, USC is going to remain strong) and plenty of pre-game exposure in the national media.
Daunting schedule? Yup. But we will have several units competing for national accolades by then: OL, DL, LB, Secondary, Offensive backfield, WR...
Great idea! Stanford or Cal on the 24th works good for me also! (Although parking in Berkley is a bear.) /s
Or UCLA. Get that rivalry brewin' again.
I see what you did there.
Yes, that's the joke.
I actually would love to see us play Cal. Clash of academic juggernauts.
Yep and the more I think about it, I believe I would like to start scheduling some of those few schools we have losing records against and putting them in the plus column. Anyone have the list handy?
I would like to see them schedule Army as Army is one of the very few teams that UM has a losing record against. I would like to see that rectified.
Delaware and Army. Make it happen.
If Delaware says no...bring on Princeton.
And if you can get them, a really bad BCS team. I've always wanted to play Duke to make them play us in our sport just like we've been playing them in basketball. You need one power team, one respectable program, one pretty bad program, and now with a fourth game, the cupcake du jour. Anything tougher than that and you're just asking to get bounced from any national contention. (I'll believe it when I see it Re: "strength of schedule" and people voting a team with a tough schedule and one good loss over an undefeated team. It hasn't really happened for the last 100 years, so I'm not expecting human nature to change now).
that doesn't have a direction in front of or behind its principle name. Anyone from a BCS conference, fake BCS conferences ie The Big East does not count.
So WVU, UNC, USC and South Carolina would be out for you then?
The direction is in the middle.
I see. So University of North Texas is OK, as is Central Florida. Got it.
East Carolina, North Dakota State, South Dakota State, and Western Kentucky and are bad.
But where does Middle Tennessee State fall? It is sort of a geographic reference.
East Carolina is actually leading with a directional since it's ECU.
Right, he's saying that one is bad. But University of North Dakota, however, is just fine.
Right and so is University of South Dakota and University of Northern Iowa. Got it.
However the quandary yet to be resolved is what about Middle Tennessee State? We have to decide if it is a direction or not, Blue Raiders everywhere eagerly await the verdict.
Let's kill us some banana slugs!
The grossest, most vile things I have encountered. They are everywhere here. About the size of your index finger, with pale yellow slime tracks everywhere, especially if you mistakenly step on or grab one!
Oh, you meant in football? Silly boy, UCSC doesn’t play a combatant sport like football. They surf, swim, skate, run, hacky-sack, and disk golf competitively. A sport like football is too war-like and might be dangerous to all their piercings.
Yeah, they don't even watch football up in Santa Cruz. It's like, hella harsh, man. Plus it takes time away from the acid.
I am amazed how hard it is to even get a baseball game or any sporting event on the radio up here. There is only one San Fran sports station’s signal that is minutely strong enough and that relies on a clear day and higher elevations.
I remember being able to listen to WJR and Tiger games clear into Iowa, hundreds of miles away. (Actually, they were cornfields, no bs. /s)
Eastern Michigan in game 1 and an ACC team, maybe Clemson or UNC
I'd like to see what kind of maize and blue camouflage unis adidas would spit out if we were to play a military academy, some wounded warrior project unis?
Two best uni's, great academic institutions, at the biggest stadium in the land ...... yeah I would host Texas anytime they wanted to make the trip.
I would really love to see a home-and-home with LSU, but not in 2016. In 2016, I would like to see us play a middle-tier BCS school like UNC, Virginia, or Missouri.
Alabama, USC, Texas, Georgia
Two of those four.
I have been waiting for a Michigan-Harvard match up. If we're going to schedule weaker teams, I think they should at least be from well branded schools. Even though it would likely be a blow out, we could get good coverage with all the talk of old-timey football. The only down side would be the obvious use of throw-back uniforms.
but they don't count toward bowl eligibility. Because the Ivy League prohibits merit scholarships (such as football scholarships), they don't count for the bowl minimum. I'd like to think that in 2016 it wouldn't matter if we need seven or eight wins, but who knows?
DB won't risk our newly minted bowl streak to play Harvard instead of Army or someone.
And that we would be limited to 11 guys, with substitutions for injuries. We'd get to see Denard Robinson as a cornerback. Jordan Kovacs as a running back. What fun.
That nonconference schedule looks alot like the 97 season. The only thing left to do is put in Baylor. You know how the rest goes.
& Jourdan Lewis plays the role of Charles Woodson.
Except sdsu should be every year.. (stadium is 5 min from my house..and this is important)
Since I just moved to Florida and they are close.
I'd take another one and done with Vandy. If I was being selfish, I would give them a return trip for a great weekend in Nashville.
If there is only a four-team playoff and it's not limited to champions only, I would rather see two directional schools there. You want the easy games to make sure there is no chance of losing, and to cut down on fatigue and injuries as a factor during the remainder of the season.
Also, since both games are slotted before rivalry games, it would be even better to see Michigan get a chance to get sharp for the next week in both games.
As long as the playoffs are still a beauty contest determined by emotions as opposed to transparent metrics, any team with playoff aspirations would be stupid to risk losing a pre-conference game. ND and Colorado are enough for the pollsters and the computers which will invariably come into play, and the Michigan and Big Ten brands are good enough for the human element, as long as Michigan doesn't lose more than one game in any given season.
I'd like to see Michigan purposely play schools that they have the most in common. Public universities that are academically strong and run historically clean programs.
To me that would be UVa, Cal, UCLA, and UNC (yeah, I know, Butch Davis and stuff, but historically they are a good, clean program). I see each of these schools as the closest peers to the University of Michigan.
Finally, I don't think any of these schools would be a great threat to beat Michigan, but wouldn't hurt the strength of schedule too much either.
Let's just get it over with before it happens in a Rose Bowl.
As a Rice alum I'd love to play them again in the Big House. Texas or Tennessee would be fun too. Maybe Miami (YTM)
Rose Bowl? UA has never made the Rose Bowl once in their entire history.
I think usc is going to smack UA around for awhile.
'their entire history' only encompasses going back to 1978 when they and ASU joined the PAC 8. Prior to that they had no chance to ever go to the Rose Bowl. So only 34 years of Rose Bowl futility, which is better than Indiana and Minnesota.
Right, because Arizona had so many incredible seasons before that. Penn State has a legit excuse for going to so few Rose Bowls. Arizona does not.
I think that says more about Indiana and Minnesota than it does about UA.
No, it wouldn't, as I called dibs on a west coast game first for 9-24. /s
Get a decent MAC snack (WMU, Toledo, etc.) then either Navy or an ACC team.
I wouldn't mind seeing an upper tier Pac-12 opponent like USC or Stanford (although we play Utah two years in a row before that and they aren't typically a slouch), and possibly someone from the ACC such as Clemson or Florida State. I wouldn't mind seeing non-conference scheduling of a quality such as what I remember when I was an undergraduate (and before then, of course).
WE OWN THEM!
i wanna see their band do something stupid.
also, miami (YTM).
- Ohio University
- Iowa State
- Kansas State
At the end of the day, however, there are just a few factors I would find important.
- Either, a game at Michigan with no return date, or,
- A return date to a stadium with a minimum of 60,000.
- A Div. 1-A team.