Ive got Boise St. 27-21. What do you guys think it'll turn out to be?
Who wins... Boise vs VT
Hooray for another night of CFB action!
Indeed, its like crack... not that i would know
I would know, and yes, you are correct.
Go Hokies! I just want Boise State to go away.
I don't know if Boise can stop the run against that big O-line for Va Tech, and I am not sure if Va Tech can win by playing Beamer Ball. I really have no idea what to expect. Va Tech 24-20.
Boise's D will slow down VT's rushing attack and get them a 27-21 W.
I hope Boise and I'll say Boise. I am all about the small conferences crashing the SEC biased BCS party.
Anything that moves the whole thing towards a playoff, I root for. Boise and TCU winning out does that.
I feel more like an outsider to the system as a Michigan fan now than a few years ago. Were like Boise in we gotta go earn it on the field.
a lot of points against VT defense who has to replace pretty much the entire starting lineup. BSU returns just about everybody from last year with no significant loss. I'm expecting BSU to score at least 30 points.
I am not looking forward to another year of Boise complaining about being overlooked when they are busy playing mediocre or worse teams the majority of the year. But, VT is a bigger recruiting rival for us.
Agreed. Their schedule is terrible. Who has honestly ever heard of Idaho State? Let alone Oklahoma, Oregon, Oregon State, Fresno State, TCU, and Washington. Might as well add Georgia, Boston College, Arkansas and BYU to the list of unknown teams...
I'm not sure what your point is but they only play Oregon State from the teams you mentioned. Their schedule for this year is as follows:
@VT, @Wyoming, Oregon St, @New Mexico St, Toledo, @San Jose St, Lousiana tech, Hawaii, @Idaho, Fresno St, @ Nevada, Utah St.
that plays 1-2 good games a season.
Its like a 2 game schedule, the major conferences face several good or decent teams and a major part of the respect comes from surviving the season long pounding.
Until they play a consistent schedule, its a joke to rank them in the top 5.
It's not their fault. Every year they try to schedule big name teams and people refuse to play them. And it's not like they wouldn't accept an invitation to the Pac 10. I got mad love for Boise.
its not out fault they dont play anybody so they get no respect
Um...Boise lost their D Coordinator so they will have their own adjustments to work with.
Another thing that no one in the media seems to talk about is that in all of Boise's games against the big boys they have never faced a team that will stick with a downhill running game for 60 mins. Facing spread teams like Oregon, OU, and TCU always worked into their favor. We will finally see what they do against a power running team that will keep it between the tackles.
Boise wins 31-27
VaTech wins this one big... 35-21 with help from a pick-6
Boise St is clearly the better team right now. Now I know how it feels to be an "expert."
I want either BSU or TCU to run the table, go to the championship game, and get trounced. Unless, of course, I get my dream "clusterbleep" rematch of this game. The BCS has been lucky enough to have compelling matchups that get good ratings. When this happens, they have no motivation to change anything. So, I am hoping that their game is a dog this year.
The only exception I would root for is for Michigan to be as good as they looked yesterday, have a year where every close game goes their way, run the table, and create the most compelling matchup I can imagine: Michigan vs anybody.
I hope Ohio State isn't in the championship game...
VT is going to roll. Boise St. plays a one or two game season.
and they usually win the one or two games they play
Our definitions of "usually" must be very different. They beat OU two (three?) seasons ago and beat Oregon last year. That's great, really. I'm happy for them, but they play a bunch of high school teams in between the one or two actual games they play per season. Good for them, they can leave now.
I didn't claim they played a tough schedule. But typically they win their big games. They beat Oregon and TCU last year, Oregon the year before that(though they lost to TCU) they lost to Washington and Hawaii before that and in 2005 they won at Utah and beat Oklahoma. So I consider winning 5 of their 8 big games since 05 "usually".
Put it this way; if we played 8 UMass teams and one Wisconsin or Iowa would you think we earned our way into the National Championship? The answer is no. They play one or two games per season that are even worth playing. Beating 8 UMass squads nets you nothing. Join the Big Twelve and see how fast Texas slaps you down every year... Boise should not be in the NC convo, IME.
I'll not completely disagree with that(although if there are no other undefeated BCS teams they should go). I'm just saying they usually win their 1-2 game schedule.
If there is no other team undefeated then Boise St. will be #1 and will definitely go. I am just not certain winning one or two games per season is enough to earn the invite. I don't really care for the "nice story" of Boise St. if you can't tell. Small conference teams should either earn their way into big time conferences or play anyone anywhere in the OOC schedule. That is the only way they can say they deserve anything.
Boise, probably 35-27 or something like that. Va Tech never seems to win against top-5 teams, and BSU has had a whole offseason to prepare for this game. Beamer ball will keep it close, but BSU won't lose this early.
Doesn't Va Tech have the entire offseason to prepare too?
Yeah, but Boise has shown an ability to over-scheme more talented teams when given enough time. But yes, I get the inconsistency in my statement.
Anytime Boise has played one of the big boys they have won, no matter the stakes. You have given Chris Petersen an entire offseason to prepare for 1 game. Advantage Boise. Boise knows what VT is going to do, while VT has no idea what Boise might do. Kellen Moore is one of the best qb's in the country and he will show the nation that tonight. Boise by ten.
Oh god the horror of Boise's helmet.
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the matte finish va tech helmets don't bother me, but those boise helmets are just bad.
both teams are sporting nasty unis, overall.
Great moments are born from great opportunity.
And that's VT has here tonight, boys. That's what they've earned here, tonight.
If VT played them ten times, Boise State might win nine.
But not this game. Not tonight.
Tonight, Tech keeps up with Boise's hot offense.
Tonight, Tech stays with them, and they will shut them down because they can!
Tonight, VT is the greatest college football team in the world.
They were born to be football players -- every one of them.
And they were meant to be here tonight.
This is their time.
Boise State's time -- is done. It's over.
I'm sick and tired of hearing about what a great football team the Boise State Broncos have. I'm sick and tired of hearing about their cupcake, creampuff schedule.
This is Tech's time!
Now go out there and take it!
Ryan Williams goes man's game and VT wins by 10.
Go to Tech but can't root for them. The people here have no idea what they're talking about and it's so annoying. This isn't because I'm not a fan but Boise State wins. I still find it funny that people say Boise State plays nobody. I guess the Pac10 champ last year didn't cut it. Or Oregon State the last couple of years. Or the Big12 champ in 2006. Or even a top 10 team in Virginia Tech.
They play nobody this season other than Oregon State and VT.
VT has the best chance of ending those national championship dreams for BSU
And how is that their fault? Very few teams are willing to play home and home with them and it's not their fault that Hawaii and Fresno have dropped their end of the bargain in making that conference competitive. They're moving to the MWC which should help with the strength of schedule.
I thought everyone had left it by now. TCU goes to the Big 12, the WAC might be a better conference.
You are right, it's not their fault. But, there is no upside to playing them anywhere. If you win, you are suppose to, if you lose, you are humiliated.
They actually play 12 teams and the possibility of 14 in all...
This could easily go either way, but my prediction is VT scores late in a the 4th to take the lead and get the win.
Final Score : 38 - 34 VT
I am honestly trying to understand why this is a question. What has Virginia Tech done to make people think they are going to win this game? Boise St would roll through the ACC without a problem every year. Boise St has 2 more BCS victories than Va Tech the past five years and return 19 starters off that 13-0 team. Boise is going to do what they always do when people doubt them and roll.
Va Tech 14
Why are you so smart? I like you.
BSU covers +2...that's what really matters.
are uggly. It's like they couldn't decide if they wanted to wear maroon or orange, so they just had somebody scribble all over them. Not that I'm a fan of Boise's helmets either, though.
Is this becoming the game thread or are we moving along to somewhere else?
Am I watching the CFL? Both teams uniforms belong somewhere north of International Falls.
already have a turnover on the board early.
The game has already started, but Va Tech is down 3-0 so I think it's still fair for me to pick them.
Gosh I hope VT wins. And yeah, "blahh, blahh, blahh, BSU is legit; Wahhhhh, cry, cry..."
Shut up. No, they don't win every big game. They're 2-4 in their last 6 bowls, the best team being Oklahoma, who they barely beat, and suddenly theyre "elite". And no, they don't play anyone. I don't buy the excuse that they can't get anyone to come up to Boise; if they want respect, they'll go anywhere to play anyone and quit bitching about it.
Bottomline; give BSU Michigan's schedule, they probably end up 8-4, or maybe 9-3. Give Michigan their schedule and we go at least 10-2, but probably 11-1, with a real good shot at 12-0.
People can quit crying about it being not fair to BSU, cuz its really not fair to teams like Alabama and tO$U who have to stay undefeated through actually tough schedules.
Yeah we'd probably go 11-1.
I demand you to stop looking stupid.
Hmm Boise against Michigan's schedule
cupcakes - 2 wins
@Indiana - win
MSU - win
Iowa - win
@PSU - win
Illinois - win
@Purdue - win
Wisconsin - maybe, but if it's at home they win
@OSU - prob loss
So they go 11-1 , 10-2 at worst and guess what 10-2 gets you from the Big Ten...probably a BCS Bowl
Well, I guess that's your opinion cuz I don't think they beat Iowa or Wisconsin, so there's your 9-3.
But now we're back to the same argument we have every year; "Oh, they're better than team X, and they'd beat team Y...", but noone knows for sure, because their schedule SUCKS and they DON'T play good teams, so all we can do is speculate, which is stupid and no basis for a trip to the MNC.
except when they play the Oregon schools or when they played OKlahoma or TCU last year or Virginia Tech right now. They can't control their conference schedule(other than by leaving which is what they're doing) and they schedule tough in the non-conference.
I think Miami and FSU did that in the 80's because no one wanted to open a door for them to get recognition
Wow. VT looks like shit.
The Broncos Defense is flying and the special teams. Boise is playing their own version of Beamer Ball. On another note, does Kellen Moore look kinda like Audrina Patridge or is it just me?
It's hard to tell if Boise St is good so far because VT let them block the punt and their Oline looks terrible.
and that's impressive because Beamer Ball is all about turnovers, special teams, and winning close games, kinda the Minnesota Twins of college football.
If this is an ugly uniform contest, I think it would be a tie. My eyes hurt.
and its not even one of their colors, their maroon and orange are an afterthought.
Wow that did not take long! Might be a long game for Tech...
Austin Pettis is a pretty damn good football player
I dont like BSU, but Chris Peterson is good. Seems like an excellent coach and he turned down offers to leave and stayed for probably less money.
GLAD that didn't happen.
Tech fans are so annoying... 20 Tech fans, me and my girlfriend. So many excuses, so many people have no idea what's happening and stop yelling if you get a tackle. You're done by 10!
how boise state is good every year.
they never recruit in the top 25 nationally
they've lost coaches so it's not like it's just on stability alone (kind of like VT plays)
and how did they graduate zebransky (sp?) and then find kellen moore?
they play in idaho! it makes no sense. i feel like i'm taking crazy pills
Well they still have Petersen and I guess he can spot coaching talent (and obviously player talent too). After that they play harder than anybody else in the country and they play with heart.
kellen moore just threw a beautiful fade to whatever TE that was to make it 17-0 and he was 39/3 TD to INT ratio last year I think. his only offers according to rivals were boise, idaho, and eastern washington.
and boise is dominating in the trenches with 2 and 3 star dudes from oregon.
they're cheating somehow. probably turned the game mode onto junior varsity
^^ This is one of the funnier comments I've read in a while.
Remember: Idaho is pretty, and close to California. They can get significant talent from there.
That said the coaching job they do is very, very impressive.
They entered D1 football in 1998 and I believe in 2002 went 12-1 and were ranked somewhere around 15. It is a qb factory producing Zabransky, Moore and Ryan Dinwiddie (played in 2002 prior to zabransky). Zabransky and Dinwiddie are both in the CFL. Also in 2002 they had a RB brock forsey who played in the NFL and scored against the Lions.
against the Lions.
is destroying Va Tech right now.
I think someone sent VT's new uniforms down to Coral Gables. They're playing like the undisciplined Miami teams of old.
they aren't showing any sign of yielding. 16-0 Bosie my god this is becoming really bad for VT. They need a TD on their next drive to get the crowd back.
Thats an unbelievable touchdown catch by Gallarda. Boise State is rolling.
VT looks outmanned, outsmarted, outconditioned, and overmatched right now in a virtual home game.
Boise looks like the real deal.
VT is overmatched. Don't hate on Boise for being well prepared, as well as being a great football team.
Long way to go, but I blogged at the JCB that if you dressed this exact Boise team in Scarlett and Gray they would have been at least 7-point chalk. Instead, I actually got them at +1.5
Been saying it ever since I began commenting at Mgo over three years ago. Ohio State is the only Big 10 team I would take over Boise on their home turf. I'd take them on the road against most of them,
so far, this is entirely impressive. however, I'm still remembering that against oklahoma, they jumped out to the lead, then gave it away and needed the hook and lateral to tie it up.
that said, vatech doesn't look at all competitive to boise. their d has shown signs of competence, but they just can't quite shut them down.
That Oklahoma team had Adrian freaking Peterson.
That OU team also had former WR Paul Thompson as their starting QB......
Someone earlier said Boise would go 11-1 with out schedule this year....well one thing that poster seems to forget you have to take into account the fact that for at least 5 or 6 of those games Boise would have to get up every week and be fired up to play. When they only have 2 legit games where they could lose it's very easy to be fired up for those games compared to having to get up for about 7 or 8 games a year.
All that said, here comes the Hokies answer
And, then they go for a big loss on first down
Everytime they show the Refs waiting for the replay, you can see one of VT's cheerleaders who constantly looks like she's saying, "why so serious?".
Va Tech is losing. Fumble, blocked punt (on blown assignment), running into the kicker are the reasons why they are losing. That said, Boise's D-Line is dominating. Looks like maybe Va Tech is finally getting it together.
Huge touchdown for Tech.
seductively cooing to "always look for the Idaho potato seal" on my potatoes.
Anybody who thought this game was over after BSU took the early lead is stupid.
I feel bad for Beamer...with the D and special teams he has had over the last 10 yrs you would think he would have played for more than 1 national title.
But, this VT program has been so HORRIBLE on offense that they find ways to fail constantly year after year. They are so one dimensional it just kills them year after year..especially in a sorry ACC they should run through it every year and be on the brink of challenging for a title!
but other than that, i am pretty impressed with Boise so far on both sides of the ball.
Looking like they may just roll VA Tech.
20-14 with less than a minute to go in the half. Is VT starting a comeback?
How about we move here
We've fallen way off the main page....just in case new arrivals are looking for the open thread
should be a CAWsome second half
And I got negged for saying Boise State would win...