Not Jim Tressel because he resigned today
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Not Jim Tressel because he resigned today
I think a lot has to do with how long, what the result of the NCAA investigation is and whether the rest of the coaches get any dirt on them.
What about Rich Rod?
Love how they just assume Urban Meyer will be there for 2012.....see Jim Harbaugh.
They have a far less chance at Urban Meyer than we had with Jim.
Lol if Al Groh takes that job.
Popular buzzword is Urban Meyer but who knows if he has the health to do it.
I think he is still playing for MSU but I'm not sure.
Just got off the phone with my friend who works for Ohio State and I guess Gordon Gee has sent out an email saying they will not be hiring anyone this season. I think they believe they can lure Meyer out of retirement.
ESPN says the same.
Pelini, Patterson and Meyer are the names twitter seems to be talking about the most. I wouldn't necessarily count Fickell out either if he has a good year. He's been with Tressel since he arrived and would create the easiest transition for them. No HC experience though which is a problem.
Pelini, Patterson, and Meyer are the names everyone will mention. It's reflexive.
I'm not insinuating Fickell was involved with any of the funny business that got Tressel fired, but I can't imagine OSU would have the stones to keep pretty much anyone in Tressel's regime past this season at this point.
I think OSU will clean house for the NCAA. It's guilty by association and I think working for Tressel for that long will actually be a negative at the point in time next year when they hire.
Exactly right on. Texas Tech cleaned the house after the Mike Leach business. Alabama cleaned house after the Price mess. Miami has cleaned the house on multiple occasions. I expect Ohio State to do the same.
it's evident that JT was the only one with insider information about tatgate and he kept it to himself save Pryor's mentor. if more widespread program allegations are revealed in SI's article, then perhaps the entire slate is erased clean, tabula rasa.
I think thats bullshit. If I was a headcoach and that was going on, I would let all my assistants know. Then again, I wouldn't be emailing my assistant coaches, so no one could really prove if I told them or not.
Pelini I could see as a real possiblity as he is from Ohio and played at OSU. This would probably depend on just how hard the NCAA comes down on OSU, though.
Patterson would seem unlikely because his current team will be joining (and dominating, in all likelihood) the Big East in 2012. He will have an easy road to 10+ win seasons and BCS bowl games.
Meyer is possible IF his talk about wanting to spend time with his family and his health issues is all just a bunch of B.S. He would be the scariest of the bunch.
You did not include his name, but I have seen D'antonio bandied about as well. He would seem unlikely as he is already 55 years old and has a bum ticker.
At the end of the day, I don't think OSU will get a really big name to be the next HC.
I really feel like Meyer is done for at least more time than one year. He was talking about getting to go to his kids games and watch them grow up and all this stuff. How do you look your kids in the eye and say one year was enough? As a dad, that would be tough. I know plenty of people will insert jokes about him not caring about his kids and yadda yadda yadda, but seriously, I think one year is not enough for what he wants to do.
The Bowl game was Jan 1st. How do you look at your kids and say that not even 6 MONTHS is enough.
The SEC may be a stronger conference than the Big Ten, but I don't agree that the daily grind of the job is much different than here. Big Ten coaches work as many hours as anyone.
as a dad, it would be very tough for me to tell my children that one year of ball games, recitals, school fielt trips, etc. is enough and that i'm going back to working 70+ hours a week.
The guy talks out of both sides of his mouth all the time. I would not surprise me (any really enrage me about OSU all the more) if he ends up being the guy.
These last 3 months or so have been the biggest karma turnout around in history but would it be it be too much to ask the college football gods to have the demolition of OSU cause the demolition of Sparty as well?
They are going down and we are on the way up. Brady Hoke wanted to plant a block M flag in Ohio . Well here is his chance and for us to get back on the top of the Big 10.
Why would a big name coach want to walk into that mess?
This is exactly my thinking. OSU has no idea what kind of sanctions the NCAA are going to come down on them with. I'm guessing that's why they're waiting on the coaching search. Still, will the investigation be done in a year? Would any coach want to go there if there are bowl bans, limited scholarships, etc?
One more great year and Dantonio will be set for the picking. He's already good with thugs.
I don't see how they get ANY big name until the verdict on their punishment is in. I've been wrong before though.
I think it all depends on how hard the NCAA comes down on them. It will be harder to get a big name coach if they are looking at starting out with less scholarships, bowl bans, etc.
Rich Rod is looking for a job
Good luck getting a top candidate with all the upcoming sanctions. I can't blame OSU for holding off since it would be difficult to lure anyone in without knowing what sanctions they will receive. That said my money is on them making a run for Meyer and Pelini and then once failing just giving the job to Fickell. At this point the job is his to lose.
If I were a coach in a good stable program like Pelini, Stoops, Patterson or Petersen walking into a program that is about to be ass raped with sanctions would be idiotic. I just read Fickell will be interm for all of 2011 and they will probably throw all of their eggs into the Urban Meyer basket.
Weve beaten Meyer before, even with Tim Christ, I mean, Tebow....
I say bring him on.
My inside sources are reporting that Mike DeBord will be resigning as TE's coach of the Chicago Bears to take over the head coaching position at osu. His rumored staff will include Greg Robinson as defensive coordinator and Marv Marinovich as QB's coach. More facts to come as the story develops...
I'm pulling for Dantonio.
Slowdown guys and gals. Let's see what tomorrow brings---and subsequent days. That will affect whom they can get. If it's just tattoos and coverups, then maybe OSU can get a big timer like Meyer or Stoops. If it's bigger then OSU has to clean out the existing coaches and top names might not want to sign up for a hobbled team.
I see a Hoke-like hire at OSU. Not a top candidate (Meyer/JimHar.), miss out on the mid level guy (Dantonio, Pelini/Les Miles) but land a solid alumn with a decent track record at a smaller school(no idea who this would be).
Both Pelini and Dantonio have no reason to leave their programs. OSU could also possibly hire an assistant coach as head coach, depending on how this upcoming season plays out?
*I can't believe no one has responded with RR to the OP's question yet...edit nvm I did get beat in the process of typing this.
That would actually be a Tressel-like hire. He got a lot of "who?" thrown his way when he was hired. It worked out pretty well for OSU. Until it didn't.
to fill in your smaller school bubble I would go with Beckman from Toledo. OSU ties and has had recruiting and coaching success at UT.
Kehres has done a great job at DIII power Mount Union, and he has deep Ohio ties. The other name that the Ohio State fans are bringing up is Chris Spielman.
You dont just go from being star player to head coach at a very top school with no coordinator or head coaching work in between. It doesn't work like that at the highest levels of football.
Al Groh....that made me chuckle. I love Groh but let's just say he doesn't get along well with administration. At least he wouldn't have to butt heads with admissions all the time.
Can anyone explain why Urban Meyer makes sense... or where the rumors stem from? He left coaching for a reason, didn't he? Even still, would he want to take over a program that might face a year or so ban, plus probation? I guess one positive would be that the fanbase would be more forgiving with a slow start.
He's from Ohio, is a really good coach, and people really want really good coaches. It's just like Stoops to everywhere rumors.
We unfortunately learned when Coach Carr resigned, that an abbreviated and rushed coaching hire is a gamble.
Making Coach Fickell interim head coach for the year while they evaluate possible coaching hires as well as time to grasp the severity of NCAA sanctions was an intelligent move in the long run.
How it will affect recruiting this year will be interesting, and hopefully it ends with Dunn,
Washington and Stanford in Maize n' Blue.
Tressel didn't resign because of lying about tatgate. It sounds like the SI story had more to do with his decision giving the timing. It seems very possible that the eventual NCAA sanctions will be severe enough to keep any big names away. OSU will probably try to distance themselves from any Tressel assistants, including Dantonio.
I'm not sure who that leaves. A MAC level coach with good ties in Ohio or a former player turned coach probably. Chris Spielman would make a great face for the program but his coaching experience is lacking. I expect OSU to hire their version of Brady Hoke, someone who loves OSU but wouldn't get mentioned for other major jobs.
I truly believe he will be the head coach. He would leave Nebraska in a minute for OSU. OSU is to him what UM was to Hoke.
He is an Ohio guy through and through and people will compare him to Woody with his intensity and such.
Hoke vs. Pelini would be reminiscent of Bo vs. Woody. Those were great years with respect to the rivalry but both teams crapped their pants in the bowl games.
on a serious note I'm going to say Tim Beckman. Great coach at toledo and is a great recruiter. He coached at OSU a long time ago. He would be our HOKE. His name came up but since he didn't have what looked like greatness on paper, everyone wrote him off. Then when he got the job, everyone was like holy crap hes "got it". Thats been the feeling around UT since Becks showed up and I feel like if osu wanted somebody squeaky clean then beckman would be the answer.
is that even if OSU could lure Meyer out of retirement under ideal circumstances, is he (or anyone) really going to jump back into the game for a school under serious NCAA penalties, or the threat of such penalties? And would Patterson or Pelini jump from good gigs to coach for a hobbled program?
It depends on what those penalties are. Unfortunately for OSU, that won't be resolved before the season--especially if something new comes out in the SI article.
That we won't resurrect slight tracker for OSU's coaching hunt.
until the sanctions start to fade away.
It will be a least a year. From the Dispatch:
"recruitment for a new head coach - which is expected to include external and internal candidates - will not commence until the conclusion of the 2011-2012 season."
But, if sanctions are bad, they may give Fickle a couple years until a new, big time coach is ready, unless, of course, Fickle works magic.
....and in the midst of an investigation which could neuter AND spay the program for years, only the most insane or most sheltered of all Division I coaches. Is there a required reading of "Denialism" for this mystery candidate to prime them for the sort of atmosphere they can expect at Ground Zero in the Horseshoe?
...for Urban Meyer in 2012. It will take that long for his family to say, "OK: you can go back to work now."
I think it is funny that MSU fans think so highly of Dantonio but now on the RCMB they are talking about how he hasn't done enough to warrent a position like at OSU. HALOL. A lot of people over there are worried that he will leave though and I think Dantonio will be gone in a second if they offer him the job.
The best-case scenario is that Saint Dantonio applies for the job and MSU finds out about it. Then, of course, he gets turned down by TSIO and finds that his locker room isn't "his" locker room anymore, sorta like Tom Izzo found out after his Cavalier Indulgence.
He was a candidate back with Tressel in 2001. He's a couple years older than the Vest, but he's used to rebuilding jobs, played for OSU, has a solid coaching background, runs a pretty similar, conservative offense, and would be able to not harm the program for a few years while they clear themselves out of this mess.
Per EDSBS twitter
One of the Stoops brothers, not named Bob. Especially if FSU has a good year
I don't think Meyer wants anything to do during the punishment phase of OSU, which could be similar to USC. May be in 3 years when the air is clear he might be interested. It will be difficult for OSU to land a top coach if the sanctions are severe! Hopefully Brady is scrambling to pick up some of those top 2012 OSU recruits.
But does it matter if it's Meyer, or whoever? Could it be that much worse, whoever they hire? What are they going to do, go 10-0 against us instead of 9-1? Any change has the potential to be just a little bit worse for us, and a LOT of room for it to be a WHOLE lot better for us.