Who was responsible for filing the reports?
It is not clear from any of the articles if this was negligence on the part of the compliance officials to file the reports or if it was the coaches that forgot to file them?
I am sure somebody has already answered this in some thread, but I am just not able to find it.
EDIT: The articles I am referring to is the Detnews and Mgoblog article on the topic. I would rather continually dong punch myself than read the ****p article.
November 17th, 2009 at 10:54 AM ^
even if the coaches are not filing them, the point of a compliance department is to follow up and make sure they get filed.
November 17th, 2009 at 10:56 AM ^
ass needs to to be canned to satisfy NCAA and not have the hammer come down on the entire program.
November 17th, 2009 at 11:03 AM ^
Since the forms are not an NCAA form, it's possible that the coaches were not aware of them or the proper process for filing them. End of the day, this has to be on the compliance department for not following up on it sooner. These are monthly forms and to wait 9 months or more before notifying the coaches of a problem does not reflect well on the compliance department.
November 17th, 2009 at 11:04 AM ^
May be the AD forgot to tell RR he needed to submit a monthly report. May be they were annual reports submitted at WVU? In any event the compliance department may have dropped the ball! I hope there are other records that show practice time.
November 17th, 2009 at 11:07 AM ^
they might have been "encouraged" to let that detail slip when the new coaches were being briefed about Michigan specific procedures.
If true, the extent to which the anti-RR lobby will go to torpedo him is shocking.
November 17th, 2009 at 11:12 AM ^
Entirely possible. It's been 40+ years since the last looked outside the program for a head coach, so their orientation program might be a little dated.
November 17th, 2009 at 11:10 AM ^
not filing those forms is not an NCAA violation. it's not any kind of violation and the forms have been filed.
November 17th, 2009 at 11:11 AM ^
about a new Michigan coach (don't know the sport) being told by then AD Bo that the ONE thing that would get him immediately fired would be cheating.
I wonder if that attitude has slipped since then. I would have hoped Martin would have sat the entire coaching staff down on their first day and read them riot act and held a workshop with compliance to make sure everyone was on the same page. I hope some equivalent of this did happen and this was just an innocent screw-up that we can skate by.
November 17th, 2009 at 11:14 AM ^
The reports are not required by the NCAA, but my read is that they could have gone a long way to eliminate the issue under investigation by proving what hours the players were actually participating in football and related activities.
Someone needs to get a kick in the butt. All it required was a simple spreadsheet - did the report get filed or did it not? "If- then-else" in its simplest form.
November 17th, 2009 at 11:17 AM ^
all of this moot and not even a MINOR violation if not for the ***ep Jihad. Fuck you Rosenpuke.
November 17th, 2009 at 11:15 AM ^
Having them would make things much easier in disproving allegations. This seems to be on the compliance department and is inexcusable. Also, I would believe that this would be a duty assigned to a quality control staffer not RichRod.
November 17th, 2009 at 11:23 AM ^
scott schaefer
November 17th, 2009 at 11:32 AM ^
coaches don't show up in voluntary practices and that practices don't run > 20 hours, how in the BLOODY HELL does it make sense to have coaches file these reports?
That's like making:
Saban a moral ethics professor,
or Weis an example of humility/restraint,
or Meyer in-charge of showing class and not publicly campaigning
or Tebow a Pro-foreskin ambassador
or Dantonio in-charge of teaching kids that crime doesn't pay.
November 17th, 2009 at 11:37 AM ^
To make sure you are compliant with NCAA rules?
November 17th, 2009 at 11:39 AM ^
From what I understand, the NCAA (as always) is focusing on if there's institutional control over the program. While the forms being discussed aren't required by the NCAA, they demonstrate that there is control and that the coaches have someone they need to answer to. Without these forms, there's no way for the athletic department to track what's going on- a 'lack of institutional control', which is a big deal.
I'm no expert, but it sounds like the bigger issue is over institutional control instead of whether practice time exceeded limits. So in the end the fault will have to lie with the compliance dep't.
November 17th, 2009 at 11:48 AM ^
BM and MSC should threaten that they will buy a large TV time slot (let's say 2hours) on network TV and discuss the Clarett issues, Reggie Bush issue, OJ Mayo issue (and a million other things NCAA has swept under the carpet) etc in detail.
November 17th, 2009 at 11:51 AM ^
Yeah, it's crazy that nothing has come of any of those other investigations. They seemed to have a ton of evidence on that whole Reggie Bush issue and nothing ever came of that. But they plan on having a decision on the Mich practice time issue within a few months. wtf.
November 17th, 2009 at 12:01 PM ^
I dont think anything is going to happen to Michigan, they can still assume at this point we'll begin bringing our enormous alumni group to bowl games again. You don't bite the hand that feeds you, USC and OSU wont be touched until they stop bringing in money.
November 17th, 2009 at 11:55 AM ^
It sounds like they couldn't manage to file some simple reports, yet when the Freep story came out in August, all we heard was that the compliance department had been on top of their game, making sure everything was being done according to the rules. So in terms of the compliance department being on top of their game, these two accounts appear to be contradictory. Unless it was the coaches who refused to turn those reports in.
November 17th, 2009 at 12:49 PM ^
MSC/BM/RR need to have an all-hands meeting and tell everyone at the Ath. Dept. to get behind RR or leave. Negligence is about the last thing this PR-challenged department needs. They should fire the person responsible immediately.
November 17th, 2009 at 3:37 PM ^
This. I hate to be all "tin foil hat" on this but haven't we had repeated compliance department and academic support department screw-ups in the past two years (e.g. LB recruit that went to Rutgers)?
If your job is compliance, how is it that it takes 9 months to figure out that your #1 sugar-daddy didn't file its compliance reports? WTH?
November 17th, 2009 at 3:42 PM ^
Greg Robinson was responsible for handing them in. Better replace him with TCU's defensive coordinator.