After DB is done interviewing Harbaugh, Gruden, Miles, Harbaugh, and Patterson, what happens when he finally gets to Hoke? And Hoke says, NO? Where do we turn then? Hoke is a great coach. He loves UM, but everyone has their limits on self-respect or when being disrespected!
Who is our choice after Brady Hoke?
See that kitten in the banner?
much like Michigan State was to me.....
Hoke would take the job as a volunteer.
Excrement came out of my ears as I read this post.
Can they get any worse?
Sad thing is, I'm sure they will...
We are grabbing at straws for content I think. Hasn't Hoke already said if we come knocking that he will take the job?
Yup. Hokes our safety net right now.
I have it on good authority (my own) that Hoke is camped out at San Diego Int'l Airport buying tickets to every flight to Detroit and staring at his phone waiting for Dave Brandon to call.
I'm picturing that little kid in the Disney commercial, "I'm toooo excited to sleeeeeep."
I have a source that tells me BH left a message on DB's voicemail saying:
"Hey Dave, I was in the shower, thought you might've called... Call me back!"
Great, now I'm forced to confront the idea of Brady Hoke showering. This is worse then the time I learned Tressel had kids.
the thought of Brady Joke as our coach?
Actually I have it on good authority the voicemail went something like this:
or like this...
Come to think of it, Hoke looks a little like Jon Favreau. I can see him checking his messages every five minutes. So who, then, is Vince Vaughan?
Not sure who "Double Down" Trent is in this situation but we should definitely hire him if we find him. This would have been a killer halftime speech to our defense this year.
He is going to camp out in DB's front yard.
In all seriousness, I can't fault the guy for being enthusiastic and vocal about it being his dream job. Honestly, I think all of us wish that we had a bunch of coaches excited about coming here.
Not sure where you got this idea from but that is not the common sentiment on this board. We have talent in place, how have we given up 4 years?
WTF is your point?
WTF is YOUR point?
Brian told us about him the other day, remember?
If we get that far I want him to turn us down because I absolutely do not want him coaching Michigan at all. I'd rather take someone else.
I remember when only 1 in 6 threads made me bash my head against a table.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. After we sign whoevr we sign, we only have about 8 months of going back and forth about whether or not we made the right hire....then it's football season again!
we won't have any top flight recruits over which we can argue about redshirting.
This place is getting more retarded everyday.
I was thinking that we have been thrashing for about a week.
If so its all about how you play your cards. You ask the right questions and DB being a former CEO knows the right questions to ask to make sure that there is no doubt that when offering the position that the coach will accept and will accept immediately. The ball is still in our court and will remain there.
This worked out really well for DB when he was trying to bring JH back to A2.
You're a silly.
Haha, that would suck a little more than this maybe.
You mean who is our choice before Hoke, right, RIGHT? Hoke basically already said yes (and not in the speculative Harbaugh way). Who care whose after him then. If we are asking that the world is already over.
Do we keep starting the same threads? Miles will be announced by Wednesday!
There is a school of thought that the interest in Miles is simply to satisfy the Bo Schembechler faction of the Michigan athletic department, and that Brady Hoke is the intended target all along.
They also say a source indicates that Miles' wife Kathy doesn't want to move the family to Ann Arbor. And they link Mgoblog for the Gruden rumors.
ESPN have proven that they know fuck all, just like Rivals and Scout and everyone else. Don't pay for that insider crap. They don't know anything. They're likely making shit up to make it seem like insdier subscriptions are worth it.
And Brady Hoke would be a hire to satisfy the Bo Schembechler faction (whatever that is). He coached under Bo's successors.
Have they started rumors before! I could really care about the Bo theory! He is the best available right now and after the mum interview could I be wrong? If it was Hoke he would have been announced a week ago!
I agree. The last think Hoke would need would be fewer recruiting days for the sake of a smoke screen.
If that's DB's strategy, he's not just incompetent, he's kinda dumb. There's no way they're playing a placate the old guard game and burning recruiting days.
This was my theory several days ago. Did ESPN give me credit?
We'll rely on the resources at Google Labs to build a coach using game based simulations and past history to make playcalls. The AUTO-COACH 120000 will not have a buyout, but will produce a DAMN STRONG team....
After watching the LSU/Tex A&M game for the fifth time, I am convinced that a Miles hire will minimize transfers, make Denard happy and will pay off short term for UM in wins. Jefferson is about 1/2 the player that Denard is and he had ample opportunity to run and throw in that offense.
For a second there I was like, whoa, that's a huge swing for M-Wolv having previously been so vehemently anti-Miles, and then I was like, wait, that's not M-Wolv, it's just his avatar.
Stunned me for a sec too. Whats up with all the avatar steeling ?
Who is Brady Hoke?
Please add \s after that statement, I just about blew a gasket reading that haha
The first defensive minded ball boy that applies.
Who we choose before him.
A fifth of jack.
Not necessarily for us (although I think it would be awesome)- why isn't Bill Cowher ever mentioned for any head coaching jobs?
Your double facepalm deserves its own triple facepalm.
You can't triple stamp a double stamp Lloyd!
No he wasn't. Who is Bill Cower? Was he good or something?
BUT WAS HE A MICHIGAN MAN?
JOHN L. SMITH STILL AVAILABLE. Muddy Watters dead.
It's too bad John U. Bacon's access to the program is over and he's already started his book, because this would make a pretty spectacular epilogue.
They are 14-2-1 so far and ranked first in the Bundesliga in German football.
Ah shit, I'll do it.
This is the only man left.
I want him to babysit my kids!
I'm pretty sure if Hoke said no it would be best to just shut things down for a year.
I think I am a pretty solid candidate after Hoke. I do have the masters degree they wanted in the posting, and although I am pretty darn familiar with NCAA Division 1 Football from being a lifelong follower, spectator and fan despite all my coaching experience being in baseball, I think I should send in my resume nonetheless.
Why Michigan would want him: Hoke seems to be the name on everyone’s radar as far as Michigan’s head coaching position goes. He’s definitely a “Michigan Man,” having coached under Lloyd Carr as his defensive line coach and associate head coach from 1995-2002.
Hoke took two relatively irrelevant teams in Ball State and San Diego State and transformed them into competitive teams. The Aztec coach loves defense, and would bring a defensive mind to Ann Arbor. He also employs a spread offense, which would mean less of an adjustment from Rodriguez’s system to the new scheme. It’s also a breath of fresh air that Hoke has spoken on end about wanting to coach the Wolverines at some point in his career.
I don't think you got a single thing right besides Hoke wanting the job.
Tell me what is wrong, more than happy to hear.
In the term Michigan Man, he embraces Michigan and everything that it is about including the passion fans have for the team, etc.
The rest is correct: He was the head defensive coach from 1995-2002, he can run a defense and took to small colleges and turned them around. His career goal is to coach Michigan. In all reality his experience is greater than Harbaugh had when it comes to coaching. He was assistant to Jack Harbaugh and John Harbaugh at different times.
Just tell me what was incorrect.
I'm pretty sure Hoke doesn't run the spread.
1997 was Herrmann's first year as DC, which continued until Ron English took over. Brady Hoke was only a Michigan DL coach until '02, when he added associate head coach, which probably doesn't really mean all that much.
Before becoming the head coach at Ball State, Hoke was the defensive line/associate head coach at Michigan. His career also included stops at Oregon State (defensive line), Toledo (outside linebackers), Western Michigan (DL, special teams), Grand Valley State (defensive line), and Yorktown High School (defensive coordinator, offensive line).
At Western Michigan, Hoke coached under head coach Jack Harbaugh. Also on the coaching staff were current Baltimore Ravens head coach John Harbaugh and current Ravens defensive coordinator Greg Mattison. Mattison would later serve at Michigan in the mid 1990s as defensive line coach and defensive coordinator, and in 1995 was instrumental in hiring Hoke. When he left Michigan, Hoke was replaced as defensive line coach by Bill Sheridan.
During the 2008 season, Hoke led the Cardinals to the most wins in school history, finishing a 12-0 regular season before falling to the Buffalo Bulls in the MAC Championship. The season featured Ball State's first victory over a BCS conference opponent, the school's first appearance in the Top 25 polls, and their first appearance in the BCS standings.
I am pretty sure that all coaches started somwhere and not at the top.
Hoke wouldn't even be mentioned in the coaching search if he wasn't connected to Michigan somehow.
But thanks. I don't think Hoke is nearly as bad a candidate as most others around here. I actually wouldn't hate the hire (though it wouldn't be my first choice), and I support whoever is going to be the coach. What I said was also fact though.
Hoke started at Michigan as a defensive ends coach, then got promoted to defensive line coach. He held that position until 2002 when he also added associate head coach to his titles. After that season he moved on to Ball State, where he was a four year letter winner as a player.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to argue with the last one. Obviously not many coaches started as a head coach. I just stated the facts more precisely than saying he was the "head of the defense (false) and associate head coach from 1995-2002". He was the DL coach until 2002 and associate head coach for 1 year at Michigan. That is all.
Took 6 seasons to get Ball State over .500 (who promptly exploded upon his departure), has never won a conference title, and has exactly two good seasons out of eight total as a head coach. SDSU beat mostly teams who were terrible even for terrible conferences this year despite a good 9-4 record.
We've already pointed out what was incorrect, yet you don't acknowledge it.
You state that Hoke "was assistant to Jack Harbaugh and John Harbaugh at different times." The fact is that Brady Hoke and John Harbaugh have been on the same team only at WMU from 1984-1986, and both were assistants to Jack Harbaugh. Hoke was DL coach, and John Harbaugh was RB coach. That means that he was not an assistant to John Harbaugh.
I don't have any problem with your support of Hoke, and I'm not going to bash Hoke if he gets the job. However, if you want to state facts in support of Hoke, then get the facts right.
I mis-spoke at different times, but regarding the rest?
He does run a wide spread offense which is adaptable to Robinson. He does have 8 years defense with Michigan as well as a background in special teams and more. He has turned around two teams and got them on track.
And I will say in alot of ways has more experience that Jim Harbaugh.
speaks so disdainfully of it:
"When asked recently about the influence of Oregon’s offense, Hoke subtly revealed his disdain for the tactical shift Michigan experienced under Rodriguez. He is convinced that modern spread option offenses can be counterproductive to the core values of smashmouth football and are, therefore, to be avoided.
“Right, wrong or indifferent, when you’re zone blocking all the time -- when you’re playing basketball on grass -- you practice against that all spring, you practice against it all fall and then you’re going to play a two-back team that wants to knock you off the football,” Hoke said. “I don’t think you’re prepared.""
You also state that Hoke was associate HC from 1995-2002. In fact, Hoke's own biography on the SDSU site says that he was associate HC for only one year, in 2002.
This link is not from San Diego site but wikiencyclopedia instead which is very current. Follows his entire career from birth.
Brady Hoke runs a wide spread offense as well as up the gut in your face offense. He should never be overlooked. He stands for what a Michigan Man really means which is knowing how passionate the fans are to the college football team, rivalrys and more.