Whitlock and Illini have beef with Fab 5 doc

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If there's a sports topic, and there's a chance that it involves racial undertones, there's at least an equal chance that Whitlock has a beef with it.  Also, he eats a lot of beef. 

Two quick points on this subject. One, who in the hell pays any attention to anything Illinois does. They could have worn orange construction cones on their heads and not a fuck would be given. Two, Whitlock ate Uncle Tom. This bloated bumb actually thinks the public reacted to Lebron's decision circus the way it did because of race. He should have the race card tattooed on his forearm.

Jason Whitlock is unreadable and an idiot. He has some charisma but his articles have become unreadable.

In this case he says the Fab 5 were style over substance even though they made 2 final fours with a starting team of 18 and 19 year olds and were a fluke away from winning the second time around.

He also essentially called Jimmy King an uncle tom.

Everyone knows the Fab Five weren't the first with baggy shorts. MJ had them (but not as long as the Fab Five) and so did Arkansas. The Fab Five did popularize them more than anyone else though. So shove it Illinois, no one gives a flying fuck.

Who gives two shits about Illinois? Sure they might have worn them earlier (remains to be seen), but the fab 5 made em famous. That's what matters.

And who the fuck is Jason Whitlock?
Jalen's fantasy? What is more plausible, 2 hours of a documentary, or the idiotic ramblings of a B-grade writer?

Iuck Fllinois

Whitlock is usually pretty good, but again you have a writer who knows better cherry picking to fit his agenda.

Rose's "Uncle Tom" and Laetner's a bitch comments were retold as what he thought when he was 18.  He explained how he was angry and jealous.  He explains himself beautifully so you can see it from the eyes of a poor kid in the ghetto.  He was wrong he said it several times during his media blitz, but he was honest as to how he felt at the time.

Whitlock cherry picks this to make Rose look bad.  I hate when writers give incomplete facts to frame their argument.  Whitlock said he worked in Ann Arbor it sure sounds like he worked for the Freep.

The shame of it is he has a decent point in the article, but he loses me when I know he's not balancing both sides  and he knows it. Poor job Jason/

I don't know which is worse, Whitlock or Illinois. One's a wannabe Drew Sharp, and the other's a wannabe Michigan State.

they don't seem as baggy... but more baggy than Syracuse

"He claims it's more Jalen Rose's fantasy than documentary"

Putting aside the Illini's beef.  This quote might have some truth to it.  It was very pro-fab5.  Its easy to see a much more negative documentary about the same events.  Also seeing as Jalen works for the channel that produced it, its not that much of a stretch.

that they pioneered wearing baggy shorts.  It was even made mention in the documentary that they wanted to "be like Mike."  The point is that the Fab Five revolutionized wearing baggy shorts.

I had read about the Illinois thing a few years ago.  But even Bardo and Gill say in the article the Fab Five took it to another level and were actually influential.  I vaguely remember the "Flyin' Illini" nickname, but nobody cares about them now.

In 1992, when high school teams across the country ordered new, longer shorts, they did it to "look like Michigan."  No one did it to look like Illinois.  It doesn't matter if they were first or not. No one paid attention until we did it.

I actually think there's some merit in Whitlock's article. Maybe I have a different perspective cus I am black, but I usually find his columns insightful, even if I don't agree with him.  I do think he was a little harsh on Jalen, since Jalen was just giving his perspective, and Whitlock basically just called him wrong. I think Whitlock's point is that the documentary kinda turns black athletes that should be heralded (the 'uncle toms') into villains; and celebrates a less-accomplished team (although he overstates their mediocrity), just because they embraced a style and culture that got them noticed. It's a microcosm of the problem in hip hop today.

and Jalen Rose where they gave Illinois credit or something to that affect.   They never claimed they invented it.  They just popularized it.  

Big difference between the 2. 

I just looked it up in an interview:

Question:  Kendall Gill says on the Big Ten Network all the time that they were the ones that started it, not the Fab 5.

Jimmy King:  "They were.  We made it popular, but they were the ones."

Went on to say UNLV and Illinois were the first.

So they can all suck it.  

Someone should write Illinois and Whitlock thanking them for the free publicity. Lets see how long the Fab Five story can stay in the spotlight, will help recruiting more than anything. 

How can you even take Whitlock serious when he says Chris Webber posted that blog post? If he did ANY research at all, he would've found out that it was a writer on the blog, that's why it says "By Dice".  He loses all credibility right there.

Not to mention, style over substance?  BRB Two Final Fours with 5 freshman starters.  Bad enough that he writes it, but looking at the comments is unbelievable as people actually agree?  Some guy says that the Fab Five was 'never even really that good'.  LULZ That's just funny as shit.

The ignorance is killing me.  Wish stupid people would just go away for once... unless they're funny, which he is not.

It's obvious that Whitlock has had enough "beef" for at least ten people.

Wow...Whitlock is a clown!

Lose some weight

baggy shorts : Illinois :: winged helmets : Princeton

In other words yes you can get pedantic and anal about where they technically started but nobody gives a fuck.

One thing the movie did (mostly) leave out was the perspectives of the upperclassmen who had to swallow their pride and come off the bench.  Chris Balas wrote a nice story about them:

http://michigan.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1200856

said it well - Whitlock is an idiot.  The documentary may have its faults but probably fewer glaring faults then Whitlock's idiotic article.  Whitlock claims that the Fab Five was style over substance even though they made it to the NCAA championship game BOTH years they were in existence as underclassmen - barely losing in the second year on a fluke play.  Yeah, style over substance.  What an idiot.  He also claims Fisher didn't coach.  Again, anybody who watched the Fab Five play or is familiar with Fisher's career knows this is an idiotic statement.  Fisher was able to get five freshman and sophomores to play unselfishly as a team and coached them to two straight national title games.  The 1989 Michigan team didn't coach itself to a national championship either.  Fisher may not be perfect but he is, at the very least, a very good coach.  Whitlock goes on to rant and rave about Michigan as a "white school" and Fisher as a "white coach."  What a racist clown.  And idiot.

 His idiocy annoys me.

comments regarding Duke were more self-depricating than anything else.  I watched that documentary twice intently.  Jalen and Jimmy's comments during that movie were cut against Jalen's admission that Duke's players actually had game, film on Grant Hill dunking all over M on several occassions, C-Webb acting like a spolied kid after the National Championship game loss, and many of the Fab Five acting like entitled asses for a good portion of their trip to Europe.  If anything, that entire portion of the movie left the viewer with less of an affection for the Fab Five and more of an appreciation for Duke.  And Jalen wrote and produced a lot ot if. 

Not all of the movie was about celebrating the Fab Five, much of it came across to me as a story of lessons learned too late and a reflection of what those lessons were.  A person cannot tell a story of a historical event without placing it in the correct context and telling the story of the time.  The story of the Titanic cannot be told without presenting the attitude of many that the ship could not sink.  Is it wrong for the producer of a movie about the Titanic to detail that attitude because it proved not to be the case?

The Fab Five have grown up, they are not who they were as was presented by their conduct and attitude while telling the story.  Telling the audience what their perspective was is not condoning the perspective nor did that movie make you want to sympathize with their perspective at that time. 

Whitlock was going to write the peice before he even watched the movie, that is if he even watched it at all.  That article is a joke.