If I was to pay a subscription for only one pay site, is there any consensus on which is best? Or is there a breakdown of the relative strengths? Thanks.
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is quickly climbing the ladder. The composite rankings are great (and free) and it's not like the other sites where they pretend Rivals and Scout don't exist. For strictly Michigan content, Sam Webb at Scout is probably the best 'insider'.
In all honesty, any good info makes its way over here quickly, make a donation to Beveled Guilt in the amount you were thinking of spending in a subsription.
Also, ESPN currently provides the most accurate rankings so keep that in mind.
Sam Webb is definitely the best insider but Scout's website looks like it hasn't been updated since 1998 so that's an issue. Rivals is good but I don't think their inside info is as good as it used to be. 247 seems like it's outworking the others right now. Can't go wrong with ESPN - you should be able to get a 3 year subscription for like $12.
Btw, there are a few really good commenters on Rivals who are fun to read, especially with regard to basketball (sane1, MHoops, etc). Hard to find guys who know basketball well on some of the UM boards.
Scout last year, ESPN this year. Next year will depend on how they rate our recruits.
Are we gonna have to hear this joke eternally as well? yuck.
Paying for recruiting information is like paying for sex, it gets you what you want but you could get the same thing on your own with a little effort.
Especially in my case, since I am happily married!
In your case, you're already paying for the sex. No need to double down on another liason.
In a horrible way of thinking about it, its like paying for health insurance and having Affleck as well. You have Affleck to do all the things that the other won't. If you catch my drift haha
Incidentally, many of those things also involve a duck and Gilbert Godfried...
I like what you're thinking, my idea involves a Buffalo live or stuff, a buck of ice, and a nine iron.
back when Adam Sandler was funny...
Billy madison is a top five comedy all time in my book...
along with Monty Python's Holy Grail, the aforementioned (in another thread) Hangover, Anchorman, and Office Space... In case you wondered.
Affleck? Ben Affleck? Not my type. His wife; however, now we are talking. If she becomes available I just hope Jay Harris doesn't beat me to her. Dat b*tch is mine.
You sir hit the nail on the head. Last year all I heard was how ESPN was horrible at recruiting evaluations and this year everybody loves them.
This happens every year. You are already at the best site. You probably won't like that answer, but you really are. You'll just be paying for things you'll find mentioned here within seconds.
Everything else there tends to be wildly premature speculation, which I will be happy to do for you if you'd like to pay me the subscription cost.
I agree completely about MGoBlog being the best site. I am just subscribing to the idea that more is better. My thought is actually prompted by Father's Day coming up. I thought maybe I would ask for a 247 subscription as being better than a necktie or another Joe Banks gift card. And it's really not recruting info that I need, since I am so well supplied here (I also am an ESPN insider by virtue of a magazine subscription I haven't paid for in five years.) I more have in mind quality articles about the team during summer camp and the actual (much anticipated) season.
And if you supply wildly premature speculation here, I will happily read it -- anything to make the football season seem closer.
AFAIk, 247sports doesn't have coverage or "insider" reports about the actual team. If you are looking for recruiting coverage and website you are probably better off with 247.
Rivals/Scout have guys who have been around the program for much longer and also have contacts within the program.
If I were beginning a subscription today, I would pick 247. It's easily navigable, has good information, and stays up to date. Also, the mods don't seem like pricks there.
The Rivals mods are pretty prick-ish, and the info isn't as good as it used to be. However, they do have a good track record of rankings accuracy.
ESPN does a good job of updating people on the board via TomVH and writes a lot of good Michigan-related articles. However, their rankings are somewhat questionable, and the ESPN site isn't as easy to navigate as 247 or Rivals.
Scout is terribly user-unfriendly, and Tom Beaver is kind of a jerk/moron, from most accounts; but they do have Sam Webb, who is the best Michigan-related reporter in the business.
(The above sites are listed in order from best to worst, in my opinion.)
But you pretty much pay for the mods at any of the sites, since you can see the rankings for free anyways. I don't really think rivals is worth it, I'd rather pay for TomVH.
For Scout, Sam is amazing...Tom Beaver is a douche. But for informational purposes, you can generally get the main componenets of what is happening in regards to Sam's recruiting info if you listen to the 5 to 10 minute recruiting roundup podcast on WTKA's website.
247 in my opinion as well. I just started my subscription there a few months ago and it was well worth it. They are always posting updates over there on football and basketball. The website is easy to use and like others have said, the composite ratings are great.
Sam Webb knows more than everyone else by quite a margin (IMO), so Scout is probably the best option.
That's really all I care about, not sure of the relative strengths of the other sites outside of recruiting though.
Tom Beaver still participates but is not the site owner anymore. He is now a Fox Sports Next (fka Scout) employee.
Sam Webb is a lot more involved, and there are some other folks posting a lot more as well.
And I like here a lot better.
I strongly advise against signing up for that site. I had a subscription and canceled it.
I currently subscribe to Rivals which is good--especially their "Inside the Fort" segments.
But you can always just take the daily Free Tour if you want. (Just one per day - stingy bastards)
or so I'm told
+1 for tremendous reference
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always has deals for their magazine (with a magazine subscription, you get insider for free). A few months ago slickdeals had a 3 year subscription for like $16. It certainly has content good enough for around a $1 a month...
I have to second this. On price alone, none can compare to ESPN when you get one of the $4 a year magazine deals. There seems to be enough free info out there on the other sites in terms of searching for rankings and recruits that I don't see a reason to do more than the cheap ESPN.
And I just want to say that 247 is killing it with cool features. I like scouts tracking of recent commits, but now 247 does that with a better format. The composite rankings are nice, instead of censoring the name of your competition like Scout does. And the crystal ball feature is pretty cool too. Plus they seem to update rankings more and the player leanings with the warmer, warm, cool interest ratings. Fortunately, all of the above is free so I find myself using their site the most.
...NEVER! EVER! Pay for a ESPN Subscription.
Get ESPN the Magazine and inSIDER is free with all magazine subscriptions.
You can get a 3-year subscription for $10, $15, $20 depending on the sale. Regardless, it's a good deal. You get the magazine and the inSIDER material.
Even if you don't use or like inSIDER, it's worth it just to read all of the articles and fluff stuff on ESPN.
...and not just Michigan, it's for the entire site.
IMO, this is a no brainer for all sports fans. When you talk about best pay sites, I don't even include ESPN because you're barely paying for it. A one time purchase of the magainze gets you online content for years.
Between that and MGoBlog, there's really no need for anything else. If you REALLY have to have it, then I guess go ahead...sounds like 24/7, Rivals, and Scout all have their +'s and -'s.
P.S. - Personally, I hate Scout. I wasn't banned or anything, but I was there for may 5 years when it was AMAZING. Then in the mid/late 00's it took a horrible turn for the worst. Sure Sam is awesome, but in today's day and age, all of that content is 100% public in less than 5 minutes.
If you're paying for these sites, look at the message boards and their databases...because you're really not getting "premium" information that you couldn't get for free.
I quite enjoy ESPN insider. In addition to Michigan recruiting, there's always great articles about non-recruiting Michigan things, Buster Onley's blog (I personally think he's a very good writer), great fantasy articles (Eric Karabel and Keith Law), and the "Rumors" section for each sport...and much more. Even if you don't do the deal people talk about on here, it's still just $2.50 a month for 2 years. Quite good value.
...because it has the best information...and I don't pay shit.
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Exactly what I thought when I saw the thread title.
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This is just my opinion but don't pay for anything that you'll find out about on MGoBlog 30 minutes later.
you get to be smug about the information that does make its way here.
Haha! Foolish Internet peasants!!
If a recruit commits, you'll probably hear about within 30 seconds here actually instead of 30 minutes. Especially in the social media age. I don't think people pay for sites to hear the quickest info. They pay for it to more hear a "background" story in terms of what is going on in the "background" of a developing recruiting story or perhaps something like a story developing about the team (nice having a subscription to Scout during the 2007 and 2010 coaching searches).
I'm a Brazzers man myself. Wait what are we talking about?
for posters to list all the porn sites i know of.
not sure if good or bad....
or for me or mgoboard...
/i can barely keep up with the ones i have, no need to list more
Just send me your credit card number at [email protected], and I'll tell you everything I know.
Failing that, I'd go with 247. Steve Aquamendous does a damn fine job still.
No one has insider access or can see practices to report anything we don't already get here. There is a supposed insider on a free site out there, but there was some strange e-fallout with that guy and scout.com which never goes unmentioned which causes me to question the validity... So I'll just say you're already on the best site for all M info
You get all info about Michigan recruiting here...and then some. Don't know why, but personally feel dirty paying for information about high school kids that finds its way onto this board anyway.
Ya, that can get you in trouble here.
247 and espn
No idea what insider access is like, but the addition of the composite ranking and the prediction thing is pretty cool. I'd want to jump on that bandwagon if I was looking for a service because it definitely seems like they're trying hardest right now
The recruiting part of Wolverine 247 is good along with the tools that you mentioned above.
Since the started that website from scratch, they don't really have anyone who is an insider reporting on the team.
247 is all fluff
What kind of paysite? Are we talking about sports or porn, because I only have a helpful opinion on one of those topics...
...and it's the porn one.
paying for porn is like paying for recruiting information. It works, but you can find anything you want within about five minutes anyway...
ps. youporn.com is the best IMHO but I am sure there are those who disagree...
I have VIP at 247, Rivals, and ESPN, and that's pretty much the order I'd rank them in. 247 has easily the best interface, has a mobile site that works extremely well, and the combination of reporters there are covering recruiting as well as anyone. They also seem to have by far the most coverage of underclassmen...which might seem meaningless at first (no should care who leads for a kid 2 years before his signing day) but leads me to believe they'll be well-positioned, perhaps the best-positioned when those recruitments start to really matter. Probably the main drawback is that the Michigan site is still young, so the board isn't as active as you'd like and a lot of the people who are there still aren't very good at being on a message board (jokes and sarcasm go over a lot of people's heads and result in stupid arguments, that sort of thing).
ESPN has a much smaller volume of what i'll call "formal" recruiting coverage (designated articles and the like) compared with the other two sites, but TomVH and the rest over there are probably the most interactive group of reporters, and you can learn a lot just by reading their responses to people's questions. ESPN also has detailed scouting reports in the profiles of each player, which is nice, and have good coverage of the NFTCs, which is cool. Their mobile compatibility is atrocious though, and the forum gets basically no traffic unless something big has just happened. In all, ESPN wouldn't be worth it if they tried to charge like the other pay sites, but its so cheap (and the rest of ESPN insider is so good) that its a good subscription to have.
As for Rivals, I constantly go back and forth on whether or not to cancel my membership, which feels redundant now that I have 247. The reasons I've kept it are: (1) they have by far the best coverage of the camp circuit, which is pretty much your only opportunity to see new video/learn new things about recruits in the summer; (2) during spring practice and the offseason they have the best coverage of the actual football team; (3) the Nightly Recruiting and Inside the Fort features are great; 4) the forums are easily the most active; and (5) they have The Ticker, which is quick and easy one-stop shopping for everything across the Rivals network related to any prospect Michigan is remotely interested in.
After getting my free month of scout I See no reason to pay for a recruiting site. Mgoblog has it all for free and is better
I am currently paying for ESPN, Scout and Rivals and used to have a 247 account.
If you want information as to what the staff is thinking Scout is #1 and it isn't even close (then Rivals and ESPN and 247 just give you guesses you could come up with regarding what the staff is thinking). If you want interviews of the kids all are about the same.
I value most the insider information and let's face it Sam Webb is the best. At Scout you are paying for Sam Webb. Their website design will soon be updated.
My recommendation is that you go with Scout if you are truly looking for insider information.
How about we get another comment saying that it's not worth paying for a subscription and to get all your info here at mgoblog. There hasn't been enough comments like that yet.
Heh, I am both surprised and bummed that multiple people beat me to making a "brazzers" joke.