Which past Michigan QB would you liked to see Harbaugh coach?
Easy answer - any or all. Any one of them would have benefited tremendously.
Personally, I think Jim Harbaugh would have benefited the most from Jim Harbaugh's coaching.
Actually, gotta be Devin Gardner. I'll feel bad for that guy for the rest of my life
Yes, I would pick Gardner too. He had a lot of talents and ability that seemingly never got a fair chance to develop.
Carr had pretty good QB development. RichRod and especially Hoke not as much.
Does Drew Henson leave for MLB if Jim Harbaugh is his football coach?
for #1 overall pick in the draft if he came back. He left because he wanted to play baseball for the Yankees, not because anything was lacking in his football career prospects.
For me this list starts and ends with Devin Gardner.
Would be my pick too and maybe Jim can talk him out of taking 98 as a jersey number. If you look back it was the beginning of the end when he came out with that number on he was never the same .
I am being sarcastic about the jersey number not Devin Gardner as the pick.
A million times this. Devin deserved better. There were alwasy glimpses, I think Harbaugh would have turned that into consistency.
considering Moellar/Carr and their staffs had a much better track record of QB development than Jimmy does at the his point.
Gardner would be my pick.
Harbaugh has Luck, Kaep, Alex Smith, and Rudock under his belt, plus probably some guys from San Diego and Stanford I can't think of.
Keep in mind that Kaep, Alex Smith, and Rudock weren't exactly regarded as great QBs when Harbaugh started with them
Josh Johnson was his QB at San Diego. He is a backup QB for the Giants.
tom brady. end of story.
...for their development acumen. Armed with an arsenal of weapons and an actual UM-calibre line, Brady was so well highlighted that the entire NFL passed on him (5+ times) before Pats took a flier with a 6th round pick. They had a great run with Grbac, Collins, Griese, Henson (what could have been), Brady, etc.--no arguing that. I would put Gardner up in the "what could have been under Harbaugh" category for the pure mercy of such a good kid, but I would put Brady up there betting that he would have been the #1 pick if he had been armed with Harbaugh's current QB guru status. JH has done this with SAN DIEGO level programs, rebuilding Stanford programs, rebuilding NFL programs then year 1 at collapsed UM with an Iowa cast-off... Moeller and Carr for the hand-off from Bo...that's a different starting point...
No way rady goes #1 or even #1 QB, even with Harbaugh. Brady had mediocre measurables, and the NFL drafts at least as much based on measurables as performance. Brady would have been better earlier with Harbaugh coaching, but, while his draft status would improve, he wouldn't be even a first-rounder because of the measurable. You just cannot measure what makes him great.
So that list is more impressive than Brady, Griese, Grbac, Collins, Henne? Not to mention NFL contracts for Hensen, Navarre and Driesbach?
Uh, okay.
For my money, it's Dennis Franklin. From 1972-74 we went 30-2-1 and never went to a bowl game. That included the 10-10 tie that led to "The Vote." Franklin had enormous talent but rudimentary QB skills. With Harbaugh's coaching those teams don't lose a game and might have won a couple of NCs.
Mallet?
This - above all others. The impact on the program as far as potentially averting the ensuing course it followed would have been enormous.
Mallet?
Devin. He would have been fucking lethal.
Sorry, but neither Devin Gardner nor anyone else could have been lethal behind that sieve of an O-line.
Jim Harbaugh.
Consider my mind fucked.
Rick Leach.
Would have benefited from JH's expertise.
He cant do that can he guys?
Vince Young
But faster! And a better passer!
Tom Brady. Just all Tom Brady all the time.
Henne or Navarre. Two Players with all the physical tools and surrounding talent in the world and with better decision making from coaching could've gone higher.
I see a lot of comments about how this past years team was so talented and we should've done better than 10-3. Maybe. More likely that Harbaugh and co. got the absolute most out of a team that probaby had no business going 10-3.
Eh, we had 11 NFL draft picks. We had a lot of talent, and quite frankly we lost 3 games by a total of 5 points. We were awfully close. Probably a bit unlucky to lose 3 coin flip games like that, but also simply lacking at key positions. A mediocre OL and Speight's late season struggles ended any possibility of a playoff appearance for a team that certainly looked playoff caliber.
How many of those guys do you think would've been drafted if RR or Hoke was still the coach?
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Probably half. I'm not denying that Harbaugh raised the performance of the team, but the team did have talent, talent that unfortunately only got 2 years of coaching from this staff. But 10-3 was not the ceiling last year.
half. so 11 to 5.5 draft picks. lets go linear before we go exponential
wouldn't have gone? Peppers might have gone higher as I doubt Mattison would have used him as Brown did.
I mean I agree, I loved watching this team this past season. All I'm saying is, try to imagine your expectations of the team right before the Utah game with Rudock starting.
The next year we were the second best team in the nation for most of the season according to advanced stats.
Devin Gardner for sure. If Harbaugh can make Kaep perform that well, I'd love to see him work with Gardner.
I'd have to agree Gardner is my #1.
He's also the QB I feel most bad for as getting screwed by the coaching but still pouring out his blood and sweat here.
Yep. He is the player Michigan failed the most. He deserved better. Playig the second half against OSU with a broken foot was maybe the gutsiest Michigan Man moment ever in football.
Ryan Mallet.
Excellent choice!
Didn't think of Mallett.
Mallett had a million dollar arm, but a ten cent head. Could Harbaugh have gotten the most out of him with that kind of head?
I was going to post this too. The dude looked like a phenom as a frosh. If Carr/Harbaugh coached him throughout college his baggage occurred later may have never happened.
case from day one with transfer rumors swirling before Carr announced he was retiring. I think Harbaugh would have had the same problem with a kid wanted to be king by appointment, not hard work.
Denard for sure. He would've been unstoppable.
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As a slot receiver. No way in hell harbaugh would have used denard at qb
...especially not with Tate around...
Right. Because Alex Smith and Kaep don't exist. /s
I think you covered it
Devin Gardner