which former UM coach is best buds with Rosenberg?
A caller on WTKA this morning stated that Rosenberg had bias vs. RR because "a former UM coach and Rosenberg are best buddies and that coach is behind this attempt to drive RR out"
The caller did not give the former UM coach's name...neither did Sam Webb, but Webb stated that the guy was welcome to have his opinion and left it at that.
Can anyone here confirm which "former UM coach" this is who has a special relationship with Rosenberg and is the alleged driving force behind Rosenberg's history of slinging vs. RR?
August 31st, 2009 at 9:16 PM ^
I have no proof, but I would guess this claim is false.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:18 PM ^
either Tommy Amaker or Bill Frieder.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:20 PM ^
Sarcasm meter in working order.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:19 PM ^
If coach = head coach, the only guy it could possibly be is Carr, and I just don't see that.
Could have been an assistant, I guess, I dunno though. I personally don't place much credence in this b/c it's some random guy on the radio.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:24 PM ^
Why would anyone want to be friends with Rosenberg?
August 31st, 2009 at 9:27 PM ^
Hypothetically, would Punching Rosenberg and Snyder in the face would be worth a misdemeanor and 93 days in jail.............discuss. Looking forward to a chance encounter in Ann Arbor. GO BLUE
August 31st, 2009 at 9:28 PM ^
Code Red?
August 31st, 2009 at 9:30 PM ^
"Rather than question the very defense I provide, I would rather you just said, Thank you."
-Jack Nicholson, A Few Good Men
August 31st, 2009 at 9:30 PM ^
Donte Stallworth only got 30 days for killing a man while driving impaired, I'd say it's worth a shot.
August 31st, 2009 at 10:38 PM ^
make sure to only commit one single criminal action, otherwise you may lose the ability to expunge the misdemeanor. Pick rosie or snyder. Or make sure you plead to only ONE COUNT if you do slug both.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:25 PM ^
Aren't there only two former HCs living?
And didn't one of them come back and coach a flag football game?
August 31st, 2009 at 9:26 PM ^
that is actually not true
August 31st, 2009 at 9:32 PM ^
You know every former Michigan coach ever? You are keeping tabs on Rosenberg's friends, as few as they may be? This is ridiculously cryptic, even for you.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:52 PM ^
who rosenberg's friends are, just that the caller was incorrect in saying that lloyd was responsible for these allegations
August 31st, 2009 at 9:53 PM ^
That wasn't what was said. Nice cover, though.
September 1st, 2009 at 12:27 AM ^
said that rosenberg and a former UM HC (there are only two left that are still alive) were trying to run RR out of town. all i was saying or trying to say was that this particular implication is not true.
September 1st, 2009 at 12:30 AM ^
1) It said coach.
2) You don't know that Gary Moeller doesn't hate RichRod.
3) You presented it cryptically as if you had some sort of TOPSECRETOMGINSIDERZ information on the subject. You do not. Stop presenting your opinions as if they're facts and if you do have information just effing say it and don't be all cryptic.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:37 PM ^
Care to elaborate or do you just love being a douche? How could you possibly know this?
August 31st, 2009 at 9:52 PM ^
that was unnecessary.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:34 PM ^
The caller did not specify "head coach" just said "former coach"...and the interesting thing was Sam Webb's response which was not to refute it, and not confirm it or even debate it...he just laughed, paused for a second and said "i... ii wouldnt go that far but thanks for your opinion etc."...
this is I think in segment 9 of todays podcast on wtka.com
August 31st, 2009 at 9:36 PM ^
If it were true it would probably be someone who thinks they'd have the job but for RichRod. That suggests English, but given Roseys age it could be Loeffler.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:41 PM ^
any coach besides Carr would have enough pull to make anything happen such as "Driving RR out." And Carr wouldn't take an aggressive stance, he *might* consult UM if they came to him but he wouldn't lead a Anti-RR campaign via the media.
My guess is its most likely BS.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:46 PM ^
Well, if this is the hypothetical coach's attempt at driving Rich off it's obvious his pull is limited.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:37 PM ^
What about Shafer? Didnt he leave on unkind terms?
August 31st, 2009 at 9:49 PM ^
Unlikely since he was only here for a year. Besides, who would take our former DC seriously?
August 31st, 2009 at 9:55 PM ^
true, what about English, maybe resntment for not getting the HC job and then getting dumped on day 2 by the new guy
August 31st, 2009 at 10:04 PM ^
based on a phone call to sports talk radio! Then we'll just start throwing out random names as possible turncoats out working clandestinely to bring down the entire program! I say it was Soup Campbell! No wait it was Jimmmmm Hermmmannnn! WEEEEEEEEEE
August 31st, 2009 at 11:14 PM ^
Isn't that what sports talk radio is for?
August 31st, 2009 at 9:57 PM ^
I'm guessing Rosenberg would take him pretty seriously. I imagine Shafer would only want Rodriguez out and wouldn't mind getting dirty to do so.
Still, my bet is this isn't true.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:37 PM ^
Lloyd Carr. That guy was way too friendly with the media during his tenure
August 31st, 2009 at 9:52 PM ^
Agh, I hate to say it, but it's Gustave Ferbert.
Sorry Dutch, I didn't want to tell your secret.
August 31st, 2009 at 10:07 PM ^
It seems to me the one person who could do the most for this situation is Lloyd Carr. If he cares about Michigan football the best way is for him to very publicly state that Rich Rodriguez is the coach of the team and I support him completely. It would bring the supposed factions together and focus on what is important, winning football and restoring the tradition. I've read that Bo was a Rich Rodriguez supporter when he was still at WVU. It's time for the program to get behind their coach and Lloyd is the one person who can get this moving.
August 31st, 2009 at 10:13 PM ^
If Lloyd were to step in, it would suggest that RichRod couldn't handle things himself. Making comparison to past practice ("we did the exact same thing in my day") would only open things up to wider investigation. The only thing Lloyd could possibly do is to tell his former recruits to shut the fuck up, or at the very least, "if you can't say something nice then don't say anything at all." And we won't know if he is doing that or not.
August 31st, 2009 at 10:13 PM ^
Argh. We've had three threads on this in the last two days. No. Lloyd Carr talking about the situation would not make a difference, and he's not going to do it.
August 31st, 2009 at 10:21 PM ^
Haven't had a chance to read all that's been posted. Just a thought that he could help the situation.
August 31st, 2009 at 10:08 PM ^
I didnt post this to make "wild speculation" based on a caller... I was just wondering if this was common knowledge and who the coach was...thats it.
August 31st, 2009 at 10:33 PM ^
I don't picture any of our coaches - current or former - being friends with a young-ish, nerdy, Jewish poor excuse for a journalist.
August 31st, 2009 at 10:56 PM ^
What does Rosenberg being Jewish have to do with anything?
August 31st, 2009 at 11:21 PM ^
what does being nerdy have to do with it? What is he saying about us nerds?
August 31st, 2009 at 11:26 PM ^
In my experience at Michigan (where there's obviously a large Jewish population), I didn't typically see the athletes hanging out with Kol Hakavod members.
I doubt Ron English, Steve Stripling, and Erik Campbell were buddy-buddy with Rosenberg. I'm sure it's politically incorrect, but if I saw Ron English with Rosenberg, I'd think "agent" before I thought "Hey, I bet they were each other's best man."
August 31st, 2009 at 11:25 PM ^
I'm sorry. The ad hominem attacks, name calling and silly threats are bad enough, but this board has gone to shit if people resort to attacks on people's race, ethnicity or religion. Seriously?
August 31st, 2009 at 11:29 PM ^
Perhaps he is making the comment that our stereotypical football lovin' coaches wouldn't necessarily run in the same circle as Rosenberg.
Or perhaps everyone is taking this all a bit too seriously. Breathe people.
August 31st, 2009 at 11:33 PM ^
You, my friend, have a brain.
I ought to buy you a drink sometime.
August 31st, 2009 at 11:30 PM ^
I'm sorry. I don't recall anyone attacking someone based on anyone's race, ethnicity, or religion. I didn't say anything negative about being Jewish, did I? Nope. Carry on.
August 31st, 2009 at 11:32 PM ^
for your crusade against the nerds?!?
August 31st, 2009 at 11:37 PM ^
If you and I ever meet in a dark alley, you're getting a swirly.
And I don't mean that frozen custard with the vanilla and chocolate.
August 31st, 2009 at 11:33 PM ^
You can get off your soap box now.
August 31st, 2009 at 10:50 PM ^
As far as punching Rosenberg, maybe if a girl did it, it would be far too embarrassing for him to press charges. I'll volunteer for the job.
August 31st, 2009 at 10:55 PM ^
Are you a Nazi?
September 1st, 2009 at 12:41 AM ^
Gotta be Bump Elliott. He's still alive, right? I mean, he has a vote in the coaches' poll.