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Which comes first: Michigan national title or Lions Super Bowl?

After watching the Lions play yesterday I started to wonder if they would ever win the super bowl.  Just wondering about the knowledgeable MGObloggers.....

 

Which will happen first

Michigan wins a national championship in football or the Detroit Lions win the super bowl?

That may be too easy since the Lions have been bad for so long.  I also wonder ......

 

Will the Lions win a first round playoff game before Michigan basketball wins a national championship?

We can dream

Mod edit: Title changed to better reflect thread contents. Please remember to make thread titles as informative and concise as possible. JGB.

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December 23rd, 2012 at 5:49 PM | - (Score:5 Normal)
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Michigan winning the NC will happen first because I could see it happening in the next few years while the Lions are so far away. 

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December 23rd, 2012 at 5:59 PM | ask the Knowledge (Score:5 Normal)
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yes. .. 

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December 24th, 2012 at 1:57 AM | I have predicted (Score:1)
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that M SB will win the next NC.  This will be in 4 years while the FB team will win one in 8 years.  The Lions will NEVER win a SuperBowl.  Never.  The world will end before the Lions win.

They have a culture of losing much like Lil Bro.  They can have a good year or two but the culture never changes.  Both teams always regress to the mean.  It is a fundamental law of Physics, Im sure.  I cant quote it exactly but it does exist.

From the Red Cedar Message Board:  "God hates us."  Yes He does Lil Bro, yes he does.  Everyone hates you.

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December 23rd, 2012 at 6:06 PM | I see Suh (Score:5 Normal)
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Kicking someone else in the nuts before Michigan wins a National Championship.

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December 24th, 2012 at 11:53 AM | So.... next year (Score:2)
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So.... next year

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December 23rd, 2012 at 6:09 PM | Didn't the Mayans predict a (Score:4 Normal)
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Didn't the Mayans predict a Super Bowl appearance for the Lions this year?

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December 23rd, 2012 at 7:17 PM | The Mayans will be right about the end of the world (Score:2)
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Before the Lions win a Super Bowl.

It may be simultaneous.

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December 23rd, 2012 at 6:14 PM | I predict this thread gets (Score:-1 Trolling)
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I predict this thread gets deleted.

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December 23rd, 2012 at 9:06 PM | Cool story, Bro.... (Score:-1 Normal)
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Cool story, Bro.

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December 23rd, 2012 at 6:25 PM | Michigan has a stronger (Score:3 Normal)
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Michigan has a stronger foundation for success in the next few years, but one can see dramatic changes fairly quickly in NFL teams. As it stands now, I see better signs of progress at Michigan. The Lions are underachieving.

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December 23rd, 2012 at 6:28 PM | I would say Michigan winning (Score:3 Normal)
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I would say Michigan winning the national championship.  Crazy things happen in college football, and while crazy things can occur in the NFL, Michigan has more pieces in place to make it happen before the Lions do.

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December 23rd, 2012 at 6:35 PM | with the way michigan is (Score:1 Normal)
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with the way michigan is recruiting, it will be putting itself into consistent national title contention for the foreseeable future. detroit will never win a super bowl as long as the fords own the team. they have shown nothing but utter incompetence, and the elite playmakers they do get (megatron, barry sanders, suh to a certain degree) are not enough to overcome the rest of the team's shortcomings. the fords can't effectively run that team. they've shown extremely poor ownership spanning several decades. why would it stop now?

It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk

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December 23rd, 2012 at 6:37 PM | Michigan will win 2 Nattys (Score:3 Normal)
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Michigan will win 2 Nattys before the Lions win a Super Bowl.  And this is coming from a die-hard Lions fan. ...

"They will meet a dastardly fate here for that! There isn't a Michigan Man who wouldn't like go out and scalp those Buckeyes right now."

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December 23rd, 2012 at 6:43 PM | If NFL rules change (Score:3 Normal)
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to award points for taking a knee inside your own five on a free kick, then the Lions are golden!

10 Points for Gryffindor!

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December 23rd, 2012 at 6:47 PM | Are you kidding me with this question? (Score:2 Normal)
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Have you watched or are aware of the LIONS HISTORY FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS?

Ever since the dumb ass Fords bought them practically, while in that time U-M has been contending for 'Ships just about that whole time and having only half a one is a damn shame in that time period, many squads were worthy for us but had bad luck here or there or Bo was too conservative.

Answer is M

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December 23rd, 2012 at 11:23 PM | Agree, sorta... (Score:2 Funny)
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WCF's first act when he gained control of the front office, on the way to buying the team outright, was to trade Bobby Layne.  Thus, Layne's astute prediction that the Lions "won't do anything for 50 years."

The only thing Layne got wrong was WCF's lifespan.  Then again, many think that Layne did get WCF's lifespan correctly, and that WCF is only being kept "alive" in an extended "Weekend at Bernie's" scenario.

 

 

 

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December 23rd, 2012 at 6:50 PM | Simultaneous. (Score:1 Normal)
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Simultaneous.

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December 23rd, 2012 at 6:51 PM | Wrong question (Score:1 Normal)
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Should be "which one comes at all?"

No excuses. Play like a champion.

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December 23rd, 2012 at 7:01 PM | Wrong question (Score:5 Normal)
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Should be "what doesn't happen before the Lions win a Super Bowl?"

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December 23rd, 2012 at 6:52 PM | Michigan basketball 2013 (Score:4 Normal)
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Michigan basketball 2013 national champs

903 wins most in college football

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December 23rd, 2012 at 8:33 PM | Thats what I was going to say. (Score:3 Normal)
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I think Michigan has as good a chance as anyone this year.

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December 23rd, 2012 at 7:00 PM | I think the better question is, (Score:4 Normal)
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which Michigan national championship comes first, basketball or football?

I'll go with basketball.

"I hate losing more than I like winning." - Zack

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December 23rd, 2012 at 7:04 PM | I don't know. I feel like (Score:3 Normal)
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I don't know. I feel like we're going to lose quite a few pieces after this season and we'll be good but not national title contenders next season. So for bball this season will be out best shot in at least a few years.



For football, we're not only historically more of a power (this humans voting us higher) but I also think we're more likely to sustain high success.



Therefore I think football wins a NC before bball. But who knows--anything can happen in March.

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December 23rd, 2012 at 7:24 PM | Burke will be a huge loss but (Score:3 Normal)
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Burke will be a huge loss but it is possible Walton and Albrecht combination will mitigate it to some extent if not entirely.

I can see Hardaway Jr. leaving also after this year but don't think anybody else does this year.

Think GRIII and Zak Irvin will be very good for us next year and Mark Donnal is said to be a prototypical Beilein big man.

We need to see how 2014 recruiting shakes out as we've had some misses but have opportunities also but next year should be a very good contender team also.

We may be reaching a tipping point for basketball of becoming a perennial power but agree we'll have to see.

Here's hoping for a bright future. This team does try hard and I will continue to support them.

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December 24th, 2012 at 12:52 AM | evidence points to basketball.. (Score:1)
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but I am going to say football simply because football is voted on and people like us.  Winning a basketball championship takes a six game winning streak with four of those games coming against (more or less) the top 20 teams in the nation... 

You can win a football championship just be being voted number one.

I think that only 15-20 teams have a chance each year to win a football championship and recent history would back that up, I think...

jdon

 

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December 23rd, 2012 at 7:01 PM | A toughie. The Lions do have the most important (Score:2 Normal)
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element in going for a Super Bowl--a quarterback. That is something that every Lions team since Layne left has not had.They also have an All-World WR, a good # in Broyles, solid tight ends, and two solid backs. The OL needs some fresh blood and they do need a RB with some speed to complement Leshoure and Bell as well as a WR to replace Young.

The Lions do have the beginnings of a good team, but the problem is that they don't have a defense. They also are poorly disciplined which isn't helping their cause any.

Michigan is building on defense and on the line. UM's problem is that they don't have elite talent at RB and WR. Michigan really needs at least one at either of those positions in order to win a NT.

Michigan is probably closer right now, but in the NFL you can get better much quicker than in college. If the Lions add some playmakers on defense and another on offense, I could see them making a serious run assuming that Stafford makes the expected improvement over the offseason.

Michigan is probablt a year away from making a run with the lack of explosive skills players holding them back.

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December 23rd, 2012 at 7:20 PM | We'll see about Stafford (Score:1 Normal)
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I'm not sold yet, he pisses me off a lot, he can't scramble that well or throw on the run efficiently and he looks hungover from a fucking kegger from the previous night just about every game.

Mikel & Joique are not fast and dance around too much, like Fitz does. We have Calvin and a couple of decent DLinemen and a lot of discipline issues and a moron of a coach 

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December 23rd, 2012 at 7:41 PM | Manning or Brady can’t scramble that well either. (Score:2 Normal)
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He does a pretty good job of buying time. The part about being drunk doesn't make any sense. He has put up plenty of yards. What haven't come are the touchdowns. He has forced some balls the past few weeks in trying to make plays. Either way, he is much better than what they have had in a long, long, time.

Leshoure needs to hit the holes better, but Bell does a very good every time he is in there. 

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December 24th, 2012 at 12:58 AM | empty yards... (Score:1)
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this team is the king of empty yards.

they are always down and they can always move... but they never put it in...  which is on the oline, I think.

jdon

 

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December 23rd, 2012 at 7:36 PM | One Name: William Clay Ford. (Score:1 Normal)
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One Name: William Clay Ford. As long as the Fords are the owners, the Lions will continue to populate the basement of the NFC Central. 

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December 23rd, 2012 at 7:01 PM | What kind of question is (Score:1 Normal)
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What kind of question is that? 

 

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December 23rd, 2012 at 7:09 PM | Northwestern has a better chance of winning the NC (Score:5 Normal)
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than do the Ford-owned Lions getting to the Super Bowl.


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December 23rd, 2012 at 7:10 PM | Michian probably has a better (Score:1 Normal)
michfan6060
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Michian probably has a better shot, but what do I know?  25 years ago I probably would have told you Michigan would win a lot more than a half of a national championship in the next 25 years.

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.

- Vince Lombardi

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December 23rd, 2012 at 7:15 PM | Depends... (Score:-1 Normal)
Glen Masons Hot Wife
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How much longer will Borges be OC.

No way we get a title with that fat retard calling plays.

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December 23rd, 2012 at 7:35 PM | Yep. (Score:3 Normal)
OMG Shirtless
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He went there.

I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

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December 23rd, 2012 at 8:28 PM | Roflmfao (Score:2 Normal)
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I still can't stop laughing

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December 23rd, 2012 at 10:56 PM | Classy (Score:3 Normal)
Go Blue from OH
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Classy.

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December 23rd, 2012 at 7:17 PM | Lions win SB first (Score:-1 Trolling)
hfhmilkman
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The Lions have a better shot and here is why.  In the draft all things are equal.  At some point the blind squirrel that is Ford senior will stumble into a good GM and coach. Though UM has the brand to recruit well, SEC teams and USC will always be able to recruit better.  Though there is more varience in any college game it is really hard to beat a team that as a significant talent advantage.  That all said I think UM has a better chance of getting to a NC game then the Lions getting to the SB.  It is just they will be like ND and face planted by Alabama.

 

 

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December 23rd, 2012 at 7:25 PM | NATTY (Score:2 Normal)
MichWolve95
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Gotta get that hoops Natty.

 

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December 23rd, 2012 at 7:33 PM | So you're saying Red needs to try to win... (Score:1)
justingoblue
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Natty Ice?

/ba-dum-sheee
/crickets

Go Blue!

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December 23rd, 2012 at 7:35 PM | Are Aliens landing on Earth? (Score:1)
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Are Aliens landing on Earth? Nope, so Michigan football. 

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December 23rd, 2012 at 7:36 PM | Satan Left a Message (Score:2 Normal)
quiverfull
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and said that he would have no problem getting ice and a blender for frozen margueritas in hell, which he informed would occur before the lions would be in a super bowl.   Michigan on the other hand could make it backto the NC game in the next few years.

Quiverfull

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December 23rd, 2012 at 7:37 PM | Sorry to say (Score:2 Normal)
smitty1983
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The lions too much cheating in cfb and nfl teams can turn it around in a year. And the lions do have talent.

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December 23rd, 2012 at 7:38 PM | The best managed teams win (Score:0 Trolling)
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The best managed teams win Superbowls. With the ownership staying the same I don't see the Lions ever being better than losing in the first round of the playoff. I'd like to say Michigan winning the NC will occur sooner but without greyshirting it'll be a challenge.

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December 23rd, 2012 at 7:56 PM | The lions have as much of a (Score:0 Normal)
Ball Hawk
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The lions have as much of a chance at winning the super bowl as a one legged man in an ass kicking contest. As for Michigan, when Al Borges leaves, Michigan will have a shot.

If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.

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December 23rd, 2012 at 8:28 PM | In order (Score:4 Normal)
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1. Michigan wins MNC

2.  Fossil fuels are depleted

3.  Lions win Super Bowl

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December 23rd, 2012 at 8:31 PM | Booooooooo!!!!!!   (Score:1)
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Booooooooo!!!!!!

 

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December 23rd, 2012 at 8:32 PM | Fords (Score:2 Normal)
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As several others have noted here, there's almost chance of the Lions doing anything great while the Fords own the team. Their micromanagement of affairs might be the single most amazingly underreported sports story in the history of this state. They must have nasty pictures of all the Detroit sportswriters.

"500 channels and nothing but cats."

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December 23rd, 2012 at 8:40 PM | Things that have a greater (Score:3 Normal)
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Things that have a greater likelihood of happening than the Lions winning the Super Bowl while the Ford family owns the team:

1) Ndamukong Suh winning Sportsman of the Year every single year from here on out until he retires

2) The Patriots winning the next five Super Bowls after firing Bill Belichick and hiring Ron Zook 

3) Eastern Michigan running the table and winning the national championship next season

4) The LA Clippers going 82-0

5) Brian Kelly winning a humanitarian of the year award

6) Ryan Leaf coming out of retirement and breaking every major passing record

7) The Big East winning the next five national championships

8) Ohio State committing no major or secondary NCAA violations for the next 20 years

9) Hell freezing over and thawing out (repeatedly)

10) Grandpa Simpson recognizing Missourah

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December 23rd, 2012 at 8:58 PM | MNC for UM definitely first (Score:2)
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MNC for UM definitely first

"The goal, the expectation of this program is the Big Ten Championship"

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