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Whetley leaving EMU

Here is a link to a Free Press article. For those of you who have the Freep on the "do not read list" it really says nothing more than Tyrone Wheatley accepted a job at Syracuse coaching the RBs. One might say this is a lateral move because that is what he was doing at Eastern, but I think just leaving EMU by most people's standards constitutes a promotion.

There has been a lot of chatter in the Michigan high school football coaching world about the program Mr. English (the Architect of the Disaster)is running at EMU. None of it is good. I think T.Wheatley is getting out at a good time.

http://www.freep.com/article/20100209/SPORTS06/100209054/1054/sports06/T...

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February 9th, 2010 at 11:25 PM | Can you elaborate further on (Score:1)
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Can you elaborate further on what the knock on English (at EMU) is? All I know about it is that he was telling Sam and Ira on WTKA that he felt he had a really good class coming in this year.

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February 9th, 2010 at 11:28 PM | 0-12 (Score:1)
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?

I have a Fandom Endurance III merit badge

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February 9th, 2010 at 11:29 PM | Touche (Score:1)
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3-9 and 5-7, yet we all think Rich Rod is a good coach.

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February 10th, 2010 at 12:05 AM | "oh for Christ's Sake" (Score:1)
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That's just the same old same old with your take on RichRod. The thing is, RichRod *is* a good coach with a serious resume of national success. He didn't become an idiot the day he set foot in Ann Arbor. We'll be fine this year.

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February 10th, 2010 at 2:43 AM | That was exactly my point. (Score:1)
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That was exactly my point. Sometimes the record alone does not a good/bad coach make.

So what I'm trying to ask is, is the consensus that Ron English just isn't a good coach? If not, why? Poor recruiting, poor gameplanning, poor player development, etc?

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February 10th, 2010 at 1:37 PM | He had the worst ranked (Score:1)
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He had the worst ranked recruiting class. I know that's what he said, but the numbers say the opposite.

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February 9th, 2010 at 11:25 PM | 3 seconds. That's all it (Score:1)
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3 seconds. That's all it takes to read your title before you hit post.

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February 9th, 2010 at 11:28 PM | Nice. My favorite part was (Score:1)
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Nice. My favorite part was when you implied he was a slow reader.

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February 9th, 2010 at 11:27 PM | Anybody who thinks EMU to (Score:1)
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Anybody who thinks EMU to Syracuse is a lateral move is clueless. EMU is a bad MAC team. Syracuse is a bad BCS team.

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February 10th, 2010 at 12:01 AM | Magnus (Score:1)
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Ever since you passed Brian in MGoPoints, it has been painful for me to give you a +1.

I really wish you would stop making so much damned sense.

Flush twice - it's a long way to Columbus.

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February 10th, 2010 at 12:06 AM | irregardless (Score:1)
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it's Brian's world here, Magnus just lives in it

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February 10th, 2010 at 12:32 AM | irregardless... (Score:1)
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this use of "irregardless" provoked my grammar-nazi reflex, and this is something I read on dictionary.com about the word:

Usage Note: Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so.

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February 10th, 2010 at 3:05 AM | RR has made "irregardless" OK in Michigan speak regardless (Score:1)
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of fascistic grammar. I think "irregardless" should be considered a Yost like "Illinoism". As long as this is tongue in cheek funky incorrect coach speak is acceptable.

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February 10th, 2010 at 9:51 AM | Merriam-Webster is not as negative on the word (Score:1)
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and at least it is a word.

"usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.” There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead."

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February 10th, 2010 at 10:43 AM | I could care less (Score:1)
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See what I did there? :)

That's a pet peeve of mine even greater than the use of irregardless.

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February 10th, 2010 at 12:41 AM | This is true. (Score:1)
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This is true.

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February 10th, 2010 at 12:41 AM | If it makes you feel any (Score:1)
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If it makes you feel any better, I pos-bang Brian whenever he posts.

Together, we can make a difference!

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February 10th, 2010 at 10:18 AM | I wonder if Brian could rig (Score:1)
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I wonder if Brian could rig it so he was awarded a point every time someone on the site rec'd a +1.

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February 10th, 2010 at 12:49 PM | yes (Score:1)
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Brian can do anything.

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February 10th, 2010 at 1:18 PM | Except implement a fix for (Score:1)
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Except implement a fix for upvotes being worth +2 but displaying +1.

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February 9th, 2010 at 11:27 PM | Considering Scout.com started (Score:1)
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Considering Scout.com started their 2011 top 120 countdown (check it out -- they are up to 75... no Big 10 Teams yet), they named Eastern as #120... literally last place.... Going to the Big East is a good move.

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February 9th, 2010 at 11:35 PM | English (Score:1)
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From what I have heard, which I understand is hearsay, there has been a rift amongst people in the EMU program regarding philosophy and recruits. In particular,the handling of a number of local recruits (offering scholarships and then pulling them) and the manner in which a number of kids on the current roster have been treated. I don't know names, but two different coaches have said this to me on two different occasions.

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February 10th, 2010 at 10:02 AM | Um . . . (Score:1)
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"there has been a rift amongst people in the EMU program"

Um . . . where have I heard this before.

Seriously, someone from Washtenaw county needs to check the water supply to see if it's been tampered with.

My money is on the Penguin.

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February 9th, 2010 at 11:44 PM | EMU to Cuse is NOT a lateral move (Score:1)
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especially when referencing a running backs coach. they are THE running back U. congrats to tyrone.

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February 10th, 2010 at 1:02 AM | Well (Score:1)
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more like they WERE the running back U. Like Miami WAS quarterback U. Neither is really turning out pro prospects at those positions in recent years. At least Penn State is still Linebacker U. or whatever

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February 10th, 2010 at 1:10 AM | Rob Konrad begs to differ. (Score:1)
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Rob Konrad begs to differ.

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February 9th, 2010 at 11:46 PM | Tyrone.... (Score:1)
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Tyrone Wheatley told me tonight that he's really good friends with the OC at Syracuse, which had a lot to do with him leaving.

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February 9th, 2010 at 11:49 PM | That's a classy way to say (Score:1)
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That's a classy way to say "Someone threw me a life line and I grabbed it like a fart girl grabs cake."

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February 10th, 2010 at 12:08 AM | huh? (Score:1)
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"fart girl grabs cake?"

ummmmm....

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February 10th, 2010 at 1:31 AM | There is a website I want to (Score:1)
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There is a website I want to post so badly right now, but I will be at -99999 point before the night is out if I do.

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February 10th, 2010 at 2:58 AM | That's almost as bad as (Score:1)
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That's almost as bad as irregardless. Douche

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February 10th, 2010 at 9:54 AM | Woa.. (Score:1)
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You were really fishing for a vote, one way or another.

You make a good point. That is, if you are going to be an internet grammar queen, you really should watch your own errors and typos. Good catch.

However, adding douche at the end was, well, a douche move.

In the end you earned a +1 from me.... barely.

All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.

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February 10th, 2010 at 12:12 AM | Am I the only one who (Score:1)
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Am I the only one who wouldn't want to be within 20 miles of a fart girl grabbing cake?

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February 10th, 2010 at 1:11 AM | Depends on how bad the farts (Score:1)
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Depends on how bad the farts smell and whether she'd leave me any cake.

'M-Burns', I'll never have better facial hair than this...

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February 10th, 2010 at 10:09 AM | Depends on the Cake. (Score:1)
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Unless the cake is making her fart.

Go Blue!

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February 10th, 2010 at 10:44 AM | In either event, 20 miles (Score:1)
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In either event, 20 miles seems like it might be a bit of overkill.

Maybe 20 yards...

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February 9th, 2010 at 11:55 PM | Congrats to Wheatley (Score:1)
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I also am rooting for English to succeed at EMU. It would be great for the University and for English.

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February 9th, 2010 at 11:59 PM | Who is Whetley? (Score:1)
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Who is Whetley?

Willie Heston - 72 touchdowns; 4 National titles; 43-0-1 record; All-American; Law Degree

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February 10th, 2010 at 1:02 PM | Apparently someone who wants (Score:1)
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Apparently someone who wants to hone his skills elsewhere.

Michigan Resurgent?  Michigan Resurgent!

The beatings will continue until the uniforms improve!

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February 10th, 2010 at 10:37 AM | Doesn't Lloyd have (Score:1)
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Doesn't Lloyd have friends/connections at Syracuse ... maybe he brokered this for Wheatley?

"[T]here were a lot of people predicting glorious heights for Rich; mostly the same people who are predicting doom and gloom [for Hoke]. Excuse me if I doubt their prognostication skills." -- M-Wolverine

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February 10th, 2010 at 12:10 AM | Two things... (Score:1)
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1 - +1 for being Mr. Noodle. I have become exposed to him through my two year old daughter, and I get a kick out of him.

2 - I have no inside anything about EMU, but when I looked at their class in the paper the other day and saw the almost complete lack of local players, I was pretty amazed. Doesn't seem like a good way to establish a following.

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February 10th, 2010 at 12:44 AM | Well, crap (Score:1)
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Wheatley and his family live in the same elementary school area as me (though his house is, shall we say, on the much better side of the tracks!). Great family; sad if they all go to the 'cuse.

Wanting something to be true does not make it true.

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February 10th, 2010 at 12:55 AM | here is a sucker-free link (Score:1)
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http://www.suathletics.com/news/2010/2/9/FB_0209103322.aspx

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February 10th, 2010 at 5:50 AM | well, (Score:1)
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english went 0-12 last year, has the worst MAC recruiting class of the bunch and they can't get enuf fans in the stands.

so, CAW has that going for them.

wheatly is just paying his dues. i wish him well and i wish english well.

Time wounds all heels. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwGXMryTbwE

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February 10th, 2010 at 12:41 PM | Disregard (Score:1)
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wrong placement

im in ur base, killin' ur d00dz.

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February 10th, 2010 at 3:08 PM | There is strife in Ypsi (Score:1)
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As we all know too well, problems arise when a new regime takes over (particularly amongst the upper classmen). Eastern is no different.....except.....they're Eastern.....and they didn't win a game last year. Their senior QB (Kyle McMahon) who played a considerable amount (including a handful of starts over the last 3 years) was bypassed for a true freshmen in the Michigan game when the starter went down.

No surprise, McMahon has transferred to GVSU for his final year of eligibility. Wheatley leaving doesn't bode well for EMU. He has roots in Michigan and was a decent recruiter in the area....particularly for a program like the HurEagle.

"the Spirit of Michigan...is based on a deathless loyalty to Michigan and all her ways....and a conviction that nowhere is there a better university, in any way, than this Michigan of ours" - Fielding Yost
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February 10th, 2010 at 5:15 PM | English is having a rough start (Score:1)
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I know a starting olineman for EMU. He said English isn't making any friends at EMU among players families or upperclass players. He basically asked a player to "call out" teammates that he felt wasn't working hard enough during a team meeting.

Yes, I know English doesn't have to be "friends" with his players, but they have to want to play for him. and its not happening.

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February 10th, 2010 at 7:51 PM | The curse of the Hurons (Score:1)
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The whispers are that EMU is forever doomed to obscurity on account of offending the Huron tribe by abandoning its name in favor of "Eagles." The tribe has called upon the Great Spirit to punish EMU football in response. By contrast, CMU has retained the goodwill of the Chippewa tribe (and in turn, the Great Spirit) and has prospered.

Seriously, it was lame that EMU stopped being the Hurons. The Huron tribe was in favor of the name - they considered it an honor.

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February 11th, 2010 at 12:52 AM | And if they HAD to change (Score:1)
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Everyone knows that they should have become the EMU Emu's, not the Eagles.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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February 10th, 2010 at 8:40 PM | I hope that Ron English goes (Score:1)
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I hope that Ron English goes 0-36 and gets fired from Eastern Michigan after three seasons. I still haven't forgiven him for that epic fiasco in Columbus in 2006 and the disaster against Appalachain State, and I probably never will.

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