Right behind last year's
Eh...
It's a whole lot different when they're undefeated, especially compared to 6-5. I'd say 2003 could be bigger than this year, since it clinched a Rose Bowl.
Go Blue!
I disagree
Being undeafeted so far certainly adds something to a potential win, but I agree with the notion that last year's win will still be the bigger. Having not beaten Ohio since 2003, we needed that win something bad. A game at Ohio with the team they have this year would result in an understandable, though still very dissapointing, loss. All that to say... Beat Ohio!
"... Just as Christian came up to the Cross, his burden loosed from off his shoulders, fell from off his back, and began to tumble down the hill, and so it continued to do till it came to the mouth of the sepulchre. There it fell in, and I saw it
You could always look at it the other way...
last year was a chance to end their streak, this year is a chance to start our own.
Go Blue!
streak
has already started from last year. If there were post-season ramifications, you could make a better argument that beating an undefeated OSU would be better, but either way OSU isn't going to a bowl and we are going to the same bowl win or lose.
Do you consider one a streak?
Honest question. I've never heard one counted as a streak except in expanded standings and whatnot, and we definitely won't hear ABC say anything about a one game streak.
Go Blue!
Disagree about last year's
Disagree about last year's win being bigger. I'd much rather beat an undefeated Ohio than one that was a shell of its former self with a rookie head coach. Ohio had nothing to play for last year and everyone thought they were going to lose anyway. Would much rather play spoiler.
You must follow a different UM-OSU series than the one I do.
Both teams always have something important to play for. A loss can ruin a great season and a win can salvage a poor season.
Part of what makes the rivalry so great is that the better team doesn't always win so the notion that "everyone thought they were going to lose," would only inspire their players.
The 1996 game is a perfect example. We lost the two weeks before that game and OSU was sure they were going to the Rose Bowl and would probably win the national title. A 13-9 win made our 5th place conference finish a lot easier to take.
On the other hand, I agree with you about the joy of playing spoiler and preferring to play an undefeated OSU.
"After all was said and done, there was nothing left to do."
Agreed. That thing on our
Agreed. That thing on our shoulder last year was not a monkey. It was a gigantic male gorilla humping on you. Thank God we got rid of it.
Agreed
I want the win over Ohio every damn year but......no championship on the line. We're pretty much going to Tampa or Orlando to play underdog to a highly ranked SEC team either way.
What puts it behind last years then?
We have about the same hopes of going to Indianapolis this year as we did last year when we were rooting for a 6-5 Northwestern team to knock off Sparty. This year has the added bonus of us being the only loss they'll have all year.
Go Blue!
Chance at
Chance at a BCS game. We knew going in we had a shot at one. Not this year.
I'm not so sure about that.
If Clemson and Oklahoma lose (or even just Oklahoma does) we're right in the mix.
Go Blue!
Not so. Iowa/Nebraska is
Not so. Iowa/Nebraska is Friday so although it is a longshot that the Hawkeyes win, the team will know whether the Rose Bowl is still an option. Not that there need be any more incentive to Beat Ohio.
Chance at
Chance at a BCS game. We knew going in we had a shot at one. Not this year.
Agreed
I want the win over Ohio every damn year but......no championship on the line. We're pretty much going to Tampa or Orlando to play underdog to a highly ranked SEC team either way.
year one Urban vs Hoke.
year one Urban vs Hoke. Chance to beat an 11-0 team vs a 6-5 team. This year hands down.
A win with zero championship
A win with zero championship implications?!?!?! Probably not top-50.
Founder of the Devin to replace Denard movement
if we beat osu is there any
if we beat osu is there any chance we get into the bcs? i could see us getting the tenth spot over a 2 loss clemson team
-UM class of 2018
Probably not. 6 auto-bids, 1
Probably not. 6 auto-bids, 1 for ND, and a guaranteed bid for a second SEC team. Looks like a Pac-12 team and a Big 12 team will take the two remaining BCS slots. It's not impossible, but it would take some work. I do agree we'd probably get in over a 2 loss Clemson though, especially since that means they're coming off a loss.
I think we could slip in IF
I think we could slip in IF Kansas State wins out, Oklahoma State somehow beats Oklahoma this saturday, and Clemson loses to South Carolina (very likely i think). Basically either the Big 10, Big 12, or ACC will get two teams in, and I think if Oklahoma has three losses, Clemson with two, and us with three, they chose us. We're the best choice in my opinion because two of our losses came to the two teams in the title game, and our third came on the road, at night, without our star player against big10 champs. Clemson also got blown out last year and Michigan fans travel better than almost all others.
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How the B1G12 alternative turns into a leper
TCU beats Texas and Texas beats KSU
KSU doesn't put many butts in seats. And they'd have a 2-game losing streak. Poof, the bowls have their excuse to pass on KSU/BIG#2.
And the Orange Bowl (ACC-affiliation) picks last. I would assume that the Fiesta & Sugar would snap up Oregon & their favored ESS-EEE-SEE team. Which leaves it up to conference loyalty (and a really boring been-there,done-that game) versus the more attractive game (Michigan).
We might make the BCS after all. (But a matchup w/ an ESS-EEE-SEE foe in the Capital One game would likely be more of a challenge than versus FSU (or Georgia Tech et.al) in the Orange.
The four original BCS bowls hold contracts with certain BCS conferences to choose that conference’s champion. If those contracts cannot be honored, and the bowl loses its first pick to the National Championship Game, that bowl will receive first choice when picking from among other BCS bowl eligible teams. The contracts are as follows:
Orange Bowl — Atlantic Coast Conference
Rose Bowl — Big Ten vs. Pac-12
Fiesta Bowl — Big 12
Sugar Bowl — Southeastern ConferenceSix teams receive automatic bids as conference champions, leaving four “at-large” bids for the BCS bowls to fill, which are chosen in a “draft” format. Teams will be eligible for selection if they finish the season ranked in the top 14 in the final BCS standings and have at least nine victories.
The order of selection for the BCS Bowls after host contracts are filled are as follows:
January 2013 games: Fiesta, Sugar, Orange
January 2014 games: Orange, Sugar, Fiesta
Even if that scenario
Even if that scenario happens, Kansas State still wins the Big 12 and gets the BCS automatic bid.
"A Michigan Man will coach a Michigan Team"
Im pretty sure if Oklahoma
Im pretty sure if Oklahoma beats Oklahoma State then TCU then they would win and get the automatic bid
-UM class of 2018
Both have one conference loss & KSU owns the head-to-head
tiebreaker.
| TEAM | CONF | OVR |
|---|---|---|
| #6 Kansas State | 7-1 | 10-1 |
| #13 Oklahoma | 6-1 | 8-2 |
| #16 Texas | 5-2 | 8-2 |
| #21 Oklahoma State | 5-2 | 7-3 |
| Texas Tech | 4-4 | 7-4 |
| TCU | 3-4 | 6-4 |
| Iowa State | 3-5 | 6-5 |
| West Virginia | 2-5 | 5-5 |
| Baylor | 2-5 | 5-5 |
| Kansas | 0-8 | 1-10 |
I meant assuming Kansas State
I meant assuming Kansas State loses to Texas
-UM class of 2018
Yeah thats a good point
Yeah thats a good point actually, and almost any BCS game would be an easier matchup than the capitol one bowl i think
-UM class of 2018
Anytime in the 90s
Seems to me like it'd fit in just fine with the games of the 90s, when OSU would be ranked in the top 5 every year, play Michigan, and leave with their tails between their nuts.
Depends on the Situation
It depends on if Nebraska loses...
If they lose then it may rank up there but if the world doesnt end and Nebraska doesnt lose then just another victory against ohio
#73
Yup, #73... maybe #74, it really depends on a lot of factors
Tied for first with all of
Tied for first with all of the others
“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler
May depend if Iowa can upset Nebraska
May depend if Iowa can upset Nebraska on Friday to know where it would rank. Also, keep two things in mind. 1) We haven't beaten them in the Snake Pit since 2000 so this would get a huge weight off our back. 2) Urban and Hoke will probably be the coaches for a while, and so the first match-up could be very significant.
It would be very big.
We're not teaching them about sports, we're teaching them about life!
Snake Pit?
You mean this place?
I believe the correct name is "God's Toilet Bowl", but that may only be the unofficial name.
How bout a combo and call it
How bout a combo and call it the Shit Pit
Shit pit?
Come on, that's a bit harsh. It looks like an inviting cooler without the top to me.
5 4 3 2 1 Touchdown!
Touchdown Billy Taylor!
Touchdown Billy Taylor!
I don't care what anyone
I don't care what anyone says, there will never be a bigger win than November 22, 1969. Michigan 24 #1 ohio 12.
That was the renaissance of Michigan football. 11/22 has remained a special date in Michigan history.
11/22/1997- #1 Michigan 20 #4 ohio 14
11/22/2003 - 100th Meeting - Michigan 35 ohio 21
When the ADept sells special jerseys and gear, you'll see my picture next to the targeted customer crowd. A sheep.....but a Blue one.....
You think the 1969 game was a
You think the 1969 game was a big deal? Man, you're going out on a limb there...
It's important that we
It's important that we establish that Urban is a Cooper this year.
903 wins most in college football
Exactly
Urban Cooper poops in coolers
"He has no idea that Charles Woodson can jump fifteen feet in the air, come down acrobatically, and get his foot inside this football field. Folks, you can watch football a long, long time before you see another play like that."
Say that five times fast.
On
Say that five times fast.
On try 3 I got Urban pooper poops in Coopers. Close enough.
Lived the Dream. 2008-2012
This one.
This would be the most important win of our lifetime, (because it is next.) Just as Fox News has said for the past few presidential elections. I just want to win the next two, so I can wash the taste out of my mouth from the Tressel years. And, of course to crush the idea of Urban Messiah.
Columbus, your tears are delicious.
Best all year, easy.
Best all year, easy.
Maybe top 20. Probably lower
Maybe top 20. Probably lower unless it's an epic comeback or something.
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We only have to move from 19
We only have to move from 19 to 14 in the BCS standings to get a shot at a BCS bowl. Hell, we might get a BCS bowl without being in the top 14 with all the SEC teams in the top ten.
903 wins most in college football
Most important win this year
Quite simply it will make or break this season. We have not beaten a good team yet this year. Not sure how good they are, but any win against them is a good win - especially in the toilet bowl (a.k.a. the Horseshoe), especially against Urban Meyer, especially in Denard's last game against them, especially in their last game of the year.
BEAT OHIO!
"He has no idea that Charles Woodson can jump fifteen feet in the air, come down acrobatically, and get his foot inside this football field. Folks, you can watch football a long, long time before you see another play like that."
We beat
Northwestern. BOOM!
If Nebraska somehow loses
If Nebraska somehow loses this weekend, it could become very significant. Even if they don't lose, the full importance of this game wont be known for years, when we can see what Michigan and Ohio State have accomplished after this game is played.
regardless of Nebraska on Friday ...
If we take care of ohio on Saturday ... we would likely move ahead of Nebraska in terms of bowl pickers. This would make our only conference loss be as a direct result of an injury & voters would know it. If we could win where the huskers lost by 4 touchdowns - it would be huge in the voters minds.
Also - even if huskers win on Friday, I still see them losing to Bucky in B1G game. This would put us as the highest ranked BCS team from the B1G.
Go Blue!
No place on earth I'd rather be on a football Saturday than Michigan Stadium !
I really can't disagree with
I really can't disagree with anything you said. Still, in terms of Michigan football history, the greater significance of this game wont be known for a long time.
We can bump the thread in ten years if we win.
Go Blue! Beat Ohio!
That is all. Lock thread.