November 11th, 2013 at 1:57 PM ^
A lot better off most likely.
November 11th, 2013 at 3:10 PM ^
...I think the correct answer is "on probation."
November 11th, 2013 at 4:24 PM ^
Given a chance to justify it, LSU fans would gladly be rid of the Mad Hatter (not that they are overly concerned with NCAA rules or recruiting violations, imo.)
November 11th, 2013 at 6:44 PM ^
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November 12th, 2013 at 1:49 PM ^
November 12th, 2013 at 1:49 PM ^
November 11th, 2013 at 1:58 PM ^
would still be in Michigan. If that helps.
November 11th, 2013 at 2:32 PM ^
I logged in to say Ann Arbor. So I will see your Michigan and specify Ann Arbor.
November 11th, 2013 at 1:58 PM ^
don't make me think about these things...
November 11th, 2013 at 1:59 PM ^
Well we would be pretty damn good and a weird team. However everyone would be happy since we would be wining a lot.
November 11th, 2013 at 5:45 PM ^
Weird? Naaaaa.
November 11th, 2013 at 2:01 PM ^
We'd probably enjoy the coach's press conferences a lot more.
November 11th, 2013 at 2:03 PM ^
Bill Martin.
Damn you, Kirk Herbstreit.
November 11th, 2013 at 2:03 PM ^
November 11th, 2013 at 3:02 PM ^
Michigan fans will never be happy until we are Bama. Even if we were like Oregon, people would demand to be winning the NC every year and demand to fire the coach cause they lost 1 game.
November 11th, 2013 at 7:37 PM ^
But yea, the blue blooded programs do complain when we aren't Alabama. It's not just a M thing though
November 11th, 2013 at 2:06 PM ^
After that, we may have been better but we also wouldn't have had Denard. As crappy as the last six years have been, how much fun was it watching this group of guys out there? We probably would also have loved whomever we had, but it's hard to accept that we'd like them as much as Roundtree, Molk, Kovacs and company.
I guess I'd rather look forward than "what could've been" because I've grown attached to the teams we had, if that makes sense.
November 11th, 2013 at 2:40 PM ^
I love Denard, but would trade him in a second if it meant more wins per season.
November 11th, 2013 at 2:07 PM ^
He probably would have gone 4-8 in year one.
November 11th, 2013 at 2:41 PM ^
Eh, I don't think so. He is a much better coach than RR and I don't think we would have lost so many players to transfers. Also, Les understands that defense is important.
November 11th, 2013 at 2:08 PM ^
I don't think Les Miles is a long term solution. We would not have hit rock bottom but he benefits from amazing recruits and great cordinators at LSU.
November 11th, 2013 at 2:12 PM ^
So he's Brady Hoke with a National Championship?
November 11th, 2013 at 2:34 PM ^
Yes, except for the "great coordinators" part
November 11th, 2013 at 3:37 PM ^
"long term solution" ? anything more than 8 years cannot really be expected by anyone... Miles would be great in Ann Arbor, because he has the personality to handle it all.
November 11th, 2013 at 8:49 PM ^
Les Miles has been a damn good coach for a while now. And that includes his time as an offensive coordinator.
November 11th, 2013 at 2:07 PM ^
we would never had gone 3-9 in 2008, Mallett would have stayed and played for Les, Cam Cameron would prolly be our OC right now....so yeah, much better off.
Thanks for being a great sailor Mr. Bill Martin, asshole extraordinaire.
November 11th, 2013 at 2:09 PM ^
In an ethical morass of oversigning, grayshirting, and complete disregard for the well-being athletes that make us millions of dollars. Probably would win more though.
November 11th, 2013 at 2:12 PM ^
We'd probably have Cam Cameron as our OC.
So, I've got that goin' for me, which is nice...
November 11th, 2013 at 2:13 PM ^
Would we be worse off had he fired GERG and kept RR?
November 11th, 2013 at 4:20 PM ^
And whether that guy had ever run a 3-3-5 in his life before.
November 11th, 2013 at 2:14 PM ^
November 11th, 2013 at 4:36 PM ^
yup, just like LSU. Oh, wait...
November 11th, 2013 at 4:46 PM ^
LSU isn't in the B1G.
...if Michigan went to the SEC, I'd be all for Miles or any other borderline coach that wins. It's fair game in the SEC. In the Big Ten coaches "b snitichin n shit."
November 11th, 2013 at 8:56 PM ^
So you must believe OSU will be sunk any day now under Urban Meyer!
November 11th, 2013 at 2:16 PM ^
November 11th, 2013 at 2:24 PM ^
Also, RR put the team on probation too. At least Miles would have won.
November 11th, 2013 at 4:45 PM ^
That's your difference.
November 11th, 2013 at 2:22 PM ^
Would be Michigan late 90's + Bigger Balls - Etiquette. Team would be respected and coach would be mocked. Probabtion would be 50-50.
November 11th, 2013 at 2:22 PM ^
We would have a damn strong football team.
Have a great day.
November 11th, 2013 at 2:27 PM ^
November 11th, 2013 at 2:24 PM ^
Under investigation by the NCAA
November 11th, 2013 at 2:47 PM ^
More likely we would be living the Kentucky basketball lifestyle...aka...Whoo go team...They're going to keep looking the other way, right? Right?
November 11th, 2013 at 3:30 PM ^
November 11th, 2013 at 8:57 PM ^
Just Like OSU dodged it by not hiring Urban Meyer. Oh wait!
November 11th, 2013 at 2:25 PM ^
It was always my understanding - and I could be wrong - that the speculation that Miles had accepted an actual offer was just that. As I recall, he acknowledged that a conversation between himself and Coleman and Martin took place, but stressed that it was more of a consultation than anything else. That was after he signed the contract extension, publicly reiterating his commitment to LSU. It never seemed clear that he was part of the process or that there was in fact a process.
November 11th, 2013 at 2:40 PM ^
Yeah, it was something like this I believe.
Although, I think he was on record saying that he would accept an offer if it was made. If I remember it was an interview on ESPN or some show where he said he could never say no to Michigan.
I think he wanted the job.
November 11th, 2013 at 5:04 PM ^
Yes, there was no "botched process". Michigan never had any intention of offering Les Miles. Bill Martin wasn't taking Miles' call . . not on a sailboat, not on a hayride, not on rollerskates. No Les Miles.
November 11th, 2013 at 10:24 PM ^
Are you saying John Bacon made all that stuff up then?