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December 4th, 2011 at 1:10 AM
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Where will UM be in the BCS standings?

Now that the games are over, we can fully discuss UM's BCS chances.

Some things went according to plan: LSU and OSU blowouts.

Somethings did not go according to plan: MSU close loss, Baylor blowout.

So where does UM project in the latest BCS standings now?  Who knows a lot about this stuff?

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:12 AM | 13th (Score:4 Normal)
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13th

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:14 AM | sorry - double post (Score:5 Normal)
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13th

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:15 AM | I don't know where we'll be (Score:5 Normal)
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but Okie State sure deserves to be #2. Don't let the SEC bias rule.

Okie State vs current BCS top 25: 5-0
Alabama vs current BCS top 25: 2-1

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:21 AM | I just can't buy that a team (Score:5 Normal)
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I just can't buy that a team with the 102nd ranked defense in FBS can be the 2nd best team in the country.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:23 AM | dammit. (Score:5 Normal)
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Posting all the way from Arizona as "grsbmd"; I got you Rodriguez...

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:26 AM | I can't either, but who the (Score:1)
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I can't either, but who the hell wants a rematch of a horribly boring game? I can't argue LSU-ALA, but I would much rather see LSU-OSU, as I think most of the country would. If it's not LSU-OSU, I'm going to occupy the BCS!

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December 4th, 2011 at 11:22 AM | I hate the idea of putting (Score:1)
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I hate the idea of putting together a game because it sounds fun rather than picking who you tnk are the two best teams. It ruins the integrity of the BCS (lol I said "integrity of the BCS")

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:27 AM | Yeah I don't really buy it (Score:1)
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Yeah I don't really buy it either. The Big 12 has awful D, but if we're gonna use the BCS, then it sure seems like Okie State has a better resume than Alabama if you can look past the presumed  SEC superiority.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:35 AM | I just can't buy that two teams (Score:3 Normal)
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with inflated defensive stats from playing a top heavy, but otherwise over-rated conference should automatically be the national champs without competition from another top conference.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:55 AM | Sure, they give up a lot of (Score:2)
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Sure, they give up a lot of yardage, but their points allowed is much better (though not great)- middle of the pack in the NCAA there- and they are fantastic at forcing turnovers.

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December 4th, 2011 at 3:13 AM | What if? (Score:2 Normal)
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What if those defensive numbers reflect the fact that they have played 5 teams in the top 25?

And what if they beat all of those teams, despite their defense?

I'm all about defense in general, but the case against OkSt doesn't depend on anything other than their awful loss to Iowa State. Let's not kid ourselves.

That being said, that awful loss should not proclude them from a game against LSU, simply because LSU should not have to beat Alabama again, particularly after beating them at home.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:52 AM | The stats seem awfully (Score:3 Insightful)
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The stats seem awfully deceptive to me. I've seen them play quite a few times this year and I haven't thought their defense was actually nearly as bad as that ranking suggests. I think it has a lot to do with playing a number of quite good offenses (kind of like how the SEC defenses are inflated by playing so many bad offenses) and being opposite of an offense that consistently puts them back on the field quickly. I'm willing to bet that Oklahoma State's defense was near the top of the country in number of drives against.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:54 AM | I agree. Alabama had their (Score:1)
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I agree. Alabama had their chance at home and lost.  They didn't win their conference and they didn't win their division.  Give another conference a shot at the SEC champ.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:15 AM | 13th or 14th (Score:2 Normal)
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13th or 14th

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:15 AM | 12 or 13 (Score:1)
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12 or 13. Five teams should/may drop below us.

 

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:17 AM | I'm worried that MSU won't (Score:1)
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I'm worried that MSU won't drop below us and Baylor will jump us.  I really hope Houston will drop 10 spots.  But I don't know if they will.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:23 AM | We are fine (Score:1)
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As long as MSU falls one spot behind in the Human polls we will be ahead of them because we are already stonger in the computers. Houston will be behind us, Georgia will, Oklahoma will, good shot Va Tech will, and Baylor jumping us was always a possiblilty but not a probability. There is decent gap between them and us in the BCS. 

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:26 AM | When Boise State lost (Score:2)
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it was a close game and they dropped a ton of spots. Would expect Houston to drop even more since the game wasn't as close.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:17 AM | They have to be in the top (Score:5 Normal)
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They have to be in the top 14. Georgia and Houston will be out. Oklahoma has 3 losses and just got hammered by OK ST. They should drop out as well. MSU will have 3 losses, so there is a chance they drop out of the top 14 as well. TCU and Baylor both won impressively, but Baylor has 3 losses. I do not see how they could jump Michigan. I know the computers love the Big 12, but Michigan will be a way better draw than Baylor. It will also be interesting to see where Va Tech ends up at. They got drilled twice by a 3 loss Clemson team. I wil be surprised if Michigan is not in a BCS game.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:29 AM | Couldn't believe that Va Tech (Score:2)
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was ranked #5 today before their game today. Their conference schedule was terrible.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:20 AM | oops double (Score:3 Normal)
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oops double

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:18 AM | I'll say 12, and unjustly in (Score:4 Normal)
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I'll say 12, and unjustly in the Sugar Bowl against TCU (unjust because in a just universe we're in Fiesta against Stanford) because the voters won't put OkSU in the title game.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:19 AM | It would be easier to get a (Score:5 Normal)
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It would be easier to get a PhD in math than to understand how this BCS will play out

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:23 AM | It's easy to understand how (Score:2 Normal)
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It's easy to understand how the BCS works - just get a dart board...

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:19 AM | I don't know anything but I can speculate (Score:1 Normal)
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OU and UGA are going to drop out of the Top 14, along with Houston and VT.

I think Sparty stays ahead of us, and may even move up a spot. But with four teams dropping out ahead of them I don't see them falling to much at all. More importantly, even if they stay ahead of us and Baylor passes us, I find it hard to believe that we're not in the Top 14.

The question is does TCU catch us too? I doubt it, but if they do it takes one BCS at-large slot away. I'm pretty sure though that if we're in the top-14, we'll get a spot in a BCS game. TCU may take a spot from Baylor/KSU, but we're hard to pass up.

I predict Wiscy in the Top 10, Baylor at 11, Sparty at 12, M at 13 and TCU sneaking in at 14.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:21 AM | TCU only needs to get to 16 (Score:2 Normal)
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As they're 18 right now it could be interesting.  I think the only team that might drop below them is OU.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:20 AM | not so worried about getting to top 14 anymore (Score:3 Normal)
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Now I'm more worried about potential Sugar Bowl opponents.  If OKSU makes the title game, I definitely DO NOT want to see Alabama in the Sugar.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:22 AM | I'd love to play Alabama in (Score:2 Normal)
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I'd love to play Alabama in the Sugar, would be good practice for our first game next season.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:25 AM | I don't know (Score:4 Normal)
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Call me naive but I would love to see that match up. It's been hard to really gauge how good our team is this year in comparison to the rest of the country. I think we would put up a decent fight.

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December 4th, 2011 at 2:38 AM | If TCU is in the top 16, Bama (Score:2)
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If TCU is in the top 16, Bama replaces us in the Sugar and would play TCU. That would put us in the Fiesta, I'm pretty sure.

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December 4th, 2011 at 2:00 AM | Bring it. (Score:2)
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Bring it.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:20 AM | What time will the standings come out? (Score:1)
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Don't know if I'll be able to sleep tonight. 

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:24 AM | 8:15 EST on ESPN I do (Score:3 Normal)
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8:15 EST on ESPN I do believe.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:24 AM | there will be a show (Score:1)
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8 pm on espn tomorrow

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:29 AM | I thought the polls came out o Sunday morning? (Score:1)
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Is it different because of the bowls or am I just far off and the polls always come out sunday night? 

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:32 AM | The human polls come out in (Score:4 Normal)
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The human polls come out in the morning and that is 1/3 of the calculation (I believe). It will give you a better idea of how the BCS will shake up...But the computers + Harris don't come out until night.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:34 AM | You're thinking of the (Score:1)
gomaize11
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You're thinking of the AP/Coaches polls. Those come out with the Sunday papers. 

Then those factor into the BCS rankings, which are released on ESPN at 8:00 Sunday nights.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:57 AM | Ok Thank you (Score:1)
AllinforDG
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I don't know if i'm going to make it to tomorrow night though. 

Hello, 911? yeah it's Quagmire. yeah, I got it caught in the window this time. 

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December 4th, 2011 at 2:18 AM | AP Poll is not part of BCS (Score:1)
Picktown GoBlue
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They asked to be taken out of it a few years back.  So it's the USA Today Coaches poll and the mysterious Harris poll for 2/3, then the averaged of the middle 4 (drop high and low) scores of the 6 computer polls for the other 1/3.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:20 AM | 13th (Score:2 Normal)
BlueUPer
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CBS Jerry Palm has UM playing West Virginia in the Sugar Bowl.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:24 AM | I would like that match up.  (Score:2 Normal)
FreddieMercuryHayes
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I would like that match up.  It could be called the "Teams Who Drove Rich Rodriguez Out" bowl.

But seriously, that would be one of the best senarios I could think of.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:30 AM | Oh my God I about shit myself (Score:1)
WingsNWolverines
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thats too awesome lmao

We hate Michigan State. We don't like Penn State too. We don't care for Minnesota, Wisconsin or Notre Dame but we all hate O-S-U.

Michigan Blue 2008 block M hockey jersey still for sale for 50.00. FREE S/H

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:33 AM | I'll buy that (Score:2)
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for a dollar.

Love & Hate are horns on the same goat.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:48 AM | WVu would be the perfect (Score:1)
CLord
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WVu would be the perfect opponent in terms of our ability to win relative to the other possible BCS teams, but it would be the most annoying in terms of fans in the stands. Outside the BiG and ND, I'd say WVU fans hate UM the most, and they definitely are NOT gentle fans....  It could get ugly in the stands on this one.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:21 AM | Could we play Alabama in a BCS game??????? (Score:1)
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Since OSU absolutely crushed Oklahoma.... is there a chance that they pass them up in the BCS?

If OSU ends up in the Championship, does that mean we would play Bama in the sugar bowl?

 

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:29 AM | BCS rarely moves unless a (Score:3 Normal)
Gulo_Gulo
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BCS rarely moves unless a team loses,  exception would be two high ranked teams that are close in the standings actually play each other.  So i doubt it.  I see UoM at 13 and no higher.  MSU will be ranked below us.  The loss will kill them at the polls.  But the computer will keep them in the top 20.

Hello BCS bowl.  GO Blue

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:24 AM | please no I don't want a back (Score:2 Normal)
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please no I don't want a back to back bama game.  There should be one and that is next year.

903 wins most in college football

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:26 AM | agree.  we would get killed (Score:1 Normal)
Frequency
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agree.  we would get killed if we face them in a bowl too.  lets play them next year. 

Insert wit here

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:24 AM | Exact ranking doesn't matter (Score:3 Normal)
patrickdolan
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As long as UM is in the top 14 a BCS bowl can pick 'em. It seems the consensus is that if the Sugar Bowl can, it will. Would have liked to play an undefeated Houston, though.

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December 4th, 2011 at 1:25 AM | Absolutely nobody on earth (Score:1 Normal)
Frequency
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Absolutely nobody on earth has any clue what will happen.  Chances of us getting to a BCS are... decent?  i think?  i dont know.  Im not smart enough to figure out any of this.  I need smarter people to explain it to me, but I don't trust them either.

Insert wit here

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