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January 13th, 2013 at 8:41 AM
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Where will Michigan find scholarships to round out this class?

We have 25 open right now and 25 commitments.  The coaches can thank Mike Jones for his time with the program, but where would we find 2 more schollies if the class potentially gets up to 28?  They aren't gonna "suggest" football isn't for them after working their asses off, are they?

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January 13th, 2013 at 8:47 AM | It's generally considered verboten to speculate about/wish for (Score:5 Normal)
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the departure of current college students who play for the school we root for. Some of them even read this blog.

Formerly 'mgoblaniel.'

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January 13th, 2013 at 8:50 AM | I've heard rumors of one (Score:2 Normal)
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I've heard rumors of one defensive player who will not return.  I'm not sure where other spots could come from, aside from Jones.

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January 13th, 2013 at 9:57 AM | And that defensive players (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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And that defensive players name is...?

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January 13th, 2013 at 10:04 AM | I'm sure Magnus (Score:5 Normal)
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Meant to leave that information...or not at all.

See the thread's first comment.

Mom, MGrad and life long fan living in So Cal

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January 13th, 2013 at 11:24 AM | There are 3-4 (Score:2 Normal)
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There are 3-4 people who don't come back. How many did we loose last summer, 5?

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January 13th, 2013 at 11:38 AM | lose* (Score:5 Informative)
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lose*

It ain't easy being cheesy

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January 13th, 2013 at 11:48 AM | No, loose. (Score:2 Normal)
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Maybe he was referring to injuries related to inflexibility.  If you don't stretch enough (aka loose) then you get injured and have to leave the team.

 

 

 

 

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January 13th, 2013 at 1:15 PM | Or to turn loose of. Loose is (Score:1)
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Or to turn loose of. Loose is also used as a verb commonly, so we could haved "loosed" several players.

"that's why you don't go to Ohio State, Lawrence"

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January 13th, 2013 at 11:42 AM | Magnus, in your opinion... (Score:2)
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Is this unnamed defensive player who is rumored to be leaving a role player or potential starter? In other words, will his departure hurt?

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January 13th, 2013 at 12:33 PM | He's a guy whose absence (Score:1)
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He's a guy whose absence probably wouldn't be noticed very much.

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January 13th, 2013 at 12:44 PM | Cool. Thanks. (Score:2)
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Cool. Thanks.

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January 13th, 2013 at 8:57 AM | Let's ask the coaches. (Score:5 Normal)
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Who has Hoke's email address so I can ask him?

"The street legend is back, bitches!"

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January 13th, 2013 at 9:00 AM | BHoke@thisismichiganfergodsak (Score:5 Normal)
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BHoke@thisismichiganfergodsakes.com

Let me know what he says.  

 

 

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January 13th, 2013 at 9:32 AM | I emailed him and he told me (Score:5 Normal)
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but asked that I not tell anyone...



You'll just have to wait and hear, or email Brady yourself. That's just the way this goes, bro

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January 13th, 2013 at 11:25 AM | I only have his Instagram and (Score:1 Normal)
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I only have his Instagram and Reddit contact, PM me and I'll send them to you.

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January 13th, 2013 at 9:17 AM | You need to be more specific (Score:1 Overrated)
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You need to be more specific with your last sentence.

Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.

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January 13th, 2013 at 9:27 AM | MIKE JONES! (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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/sorry,notsorry

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January 13th, 2013 at 9:47 AM | Attrition (Score:3 Normal)
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You can make room for incoming scholarship players via attrition by changes to your roster in the following ways. 

 

  • Players see the writing on the wall depth chart wise and transfer. Say Hoke finds that some incoming freshman will start over some juniors or seniors who are lower on the depth chart, they would be free to leave. 
  • Players get into trouble and get kicked off the team 
  • Players grades don't cut it and they are asked to leave. Rarely does this happen but players must maintain the minimum GPA of the institution they attend which for Michigan is a 2.0 (correct me if I'm wrong). Here is a link for more info on the academic stuff. 
  • Players leave early... Had Lewand left early, it would free up a scholarship for someone else but I'm not sure who is on the fence for Michigan to make the leap to the NFL. 
  • Players get homesick and tranfer back home
  • Players Gray Shirt

Most of attrition occurs between the time the bowl season ends to the time summer camp starts. Gray shirting players however is the last resort. I'm not familar with the entire roster for Michigan so I'm not sure who goes under which category but apply to the individual as needed. I'm sure the coaches will make room if Larue and Co. were to finish out the class. 

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January 13th, 2013 at 10:47 AM | Attrition of 2 is probably to (Score:2 Normal)
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Doubtful the coaches would take any of these routes to purposefully make room in the class. They have always been frank with the number if spots open in the class and that has only ever changed so far AFTER players on the roster changed their plans.

Attrition of 2 is probably to be expected between now and next season from transfers and playing time and dudes giving up football. But the first thing on your list should be medicals--players hurt too badly to ever be able to play football again who can stay on scholarship but not count against the 85. Saban has been known to abuse medical'ing to slice down his roster (kids he medical'd transferred and played elsewhere). Michigan has had a few take advantage of this in recent years--Talbott and Teric Jones were two.

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January 13th, 2013 at 9:36 AM | My advice... (Score:5 Normal)
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don't frickin worry about it.  Let the coaches worry about it.

"You owe it to every man, woman, and child in the State of Michigan to beat the Buckeyes and silence their fans!  Now go out there and make it happen!"

- Bo Schembechler (Result: U-M 22  OSU 0)

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January 13th, 2013 at 9:58 AM | Can't say this keep me up at (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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Can't say this keep me up at night.  I was curious after Sam Webb said we could 29.  I appreciate your deep concern for me though.

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January 13th, 2013 at 11:51 AM | On a blog? (Score:2 Normal)
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If we consistently adopted that philosophy there would certainly be many fewer things to read about on MGoBlog.  Aren't most of us here much of the tim to do the opposite?

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January 13th, 2013 at 2:12 PM | If we can talk about the (Score:1 Overrated)
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If we can talk about the "best online sports betting site", we can certainly talk about this.

I think most people just don't want to know how the sausage is made.

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January 13th, 2013 at 9:42 AM | Will Hagerup for one. Kids (Score:5 Normal)
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Will Hagerup for one.



Kids had enough chances and there's nothing wrong with Matt wile.

What if when the hatches finally open out of the UFOs come thousands of 100ft Native American Indians? We're going to be watching like "F%&# those are huge Indians! Please tell me they're not huge Indians."

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January 13th, 2013 at 9:58 AM | Are you familiar with Plato? (Score:5 Normal)
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We are the people in the cave staring at the shadow puppets on the wall. The coaches are the ones outside the cave who understand the world as it presently exists. Now, they could try to explain the world to us, but we don't really need that knowledge, and there's a good chance we wouldn't understand it anyway.

I am being Twitters

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January 13th, 2013 at 10:03 AM | So, when you took Great Books, (Score:4 Normal)
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did you have H. D. Cameron?

Formerly 'mgoblaniel.'

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January 13th, 2013 at 10:20 AM | Nope (Score:5 Normal)
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Never took Great Books. I know it was assigned reading for some class, but I don't know which one. Poli Sci 101, maybe? It was with a guy with a huge Greek (?) accent. Hard to remember, because it was a thousand years ago.

I am being Twitters

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January 13th, 2013 at 10:06 AM | Could easily be replacing a (Score:-1 Overrated)
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Could easily be replacing a punter,Defensive Line prospect or two and a Safety who's never really lived up to expectations. We honestly for two years have been thining out the hurd cause like the sign says those who stay will be champions.

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January 13th, 2013 at 10:18 AM | Interesting stabs at both (Score:5 Normal)
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Interesting stabs at both thinning and herd.

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January 13th, 2013 at 1:03 PM | Apparently UM has been busy buying cars (Score:-1 Offtopic)
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buying cars. 

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January 13th, 2013 at 3:48 PM | I Hurd about that to. (Score:1)
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I Hurd about that to.

"Wasn't that Michigan drive just great.  That's like Patton riding into Berlin." ~Bob Ufer

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January 13th, 2013 at 10:18 AM | As I understand it, because (Score:3 Normal)
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As I understand it, because we had 6 students early enroll we are now sitting at 19 commits for the Fall. Therefore, we could take as many as we wanted as long as we don't go over the 85 total scholarship limit.

Nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes...and fuck Ohio.

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January 13th, 2013 at 10:30 AM | Only 3 of the early enrollees (Score:5 Normal)
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Only 3 of the early enrollees can be pushed back to last years class

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January 13th, 2013 at 10:31 AM | not quite true (Score:2 Normal)
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We can't go over 25 per class. We had 22 in the 2012 class, so 3 of the early enrollees still will be considered part of the 2013 class.

Eating is murder.

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January 13th, 2013 at 11:42 AM | I could be wrong (Score:4 Normal)
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But because three players from '12 enrolled early, those three were counted against '11. But again, I was told there would be no math.

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January 13th, 2013 at 12:17 PM | That's correct. (Score:3 Normal)
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There were 25 recruits in the 2012 class, leaving 22 to actually count as members of the 2012 class.

Eating is murder.

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January 13th, 2013 at 12:55 PM | Ah (Score:3 Normal)
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Touché, math guy.

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January 13th, 2013 at 10:48 AM | You are wrong on nearly every (Score:2 Normal)
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You are wrong on nearly every point that you make.

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January 13th, 2013 at 11:04 AM | Probably why he's been (Score:4 Normal)
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Probably why he's been banned, and only shows up on the apps. Guy's a douchebag in every post

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January 13th, 2013 at 11:10 AM | I've been banned? What are (Score:3 Normal)
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I've been banned? What are you talking about?

Nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes...and fuck Ohio.

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January 13th, 2013 at 11:13 AM | Oh my. I replied to a post (Score:1 Normal)
david from wyoming
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Oh my. I replied to a post from buck killer that is caved now. Sorry, my post is not directed at you.

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January 13th, 2013 at 11:15 AM | No worries. I was just really (Score:4 Normal)
Robo
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No worries. I was just really confused. I even logged out to see if I could see my posts.

Nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes...and fuck Ohio.

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January 13th, 2013 at 3:06 PM | Jeebus. (Score:2)
clarkiefromcanada
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Calm down killer.

If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone

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January 13th, 2013 at 11:17 AM | Well thanks for your (Score:2 Normal)
Robo
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Would you actually care to explain it properly then? 

EDIT: Sorry, my wording is making me sound like an asshole with this post. I actually legitimately want to know. What did I say besides the "all 6 would count for last year" that is wrong?

Nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes...and fuck Ohio.

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January 13th, 2013 at 11:56 AM |  If we back date 3 of the EEs (Score:3 Normal)
Red is Blue
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 If we back date 3 of the EEs (which I believe by B1G rule is the max), then we would have 22 count against 2013 so we could still add 3 before hitting the annual limit.  However, the 3 backdated EEs + 22 in 2013 would put us at the 85 total limit.  So, as I understand it, it is really the 85 limit that causes us to have to lose some players if we want to add more in 2013 and in any case we can't add more than 3 more.

I've heard that the B1G has a limit of back dating no more than 3 EEs.  If that is the case, I'm not sure how a team in the B1G could ever go above 28 in a class.

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January 14th, 2013 at 1:19 AM | Oh my. I'm glad I can see (Score:2)
david from wyoming
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Oh my. I'm glad I can see this on my phone app. You sir need some help.

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I may not be a 70 year old man. - Herm

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January 13th, 2013 at 10:47 AM | too bad there isn't an (Score:5 Normal)
coldnjl
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too bad there isn't an -idiocy-moderation tag...then there wouldn't be any speculation when someone says trolling, overrated, or flamebait

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January 13th, 2013 at 11:26 AM |  I have often wanted the same (Score:3 Normal)
markinmsp
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 I have often wanted the same thing. Just a BS tag, Verbal Diarrhea, or just plain ole’ STUPID!

                                          

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January 13th, 2013 at 10:51 AM | I haven't sat around doing (Score:2 Normal)
TickerTape
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I haven't sat around doing the math but I find it hard to believe we would even be in a numbers crunch with all the player attrition we've had over a couple previous classes.

I would say don't worry about it, if Texas A&M can have a class in the 30's and Ohio can have a class at 21 ( and counting while under sancations) then I don't think Michigan has anything to worry about.

Beat Ohio today!!!

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January 13th, 2013 at 11:07 AM | What is a sancation? Like a (Score:1 Overrated)
bj-ask you
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What is a sancation? Like a stay-cation from a bowl game?

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