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August 6th, 2011 at 9:22 PM | This topic was discussed... (Score:4 Normal)
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....in this thread. According to GOBLUE4EVR:

Side note to the whole "south detroit" term... the term came from a groupie that one of the band members brought back to the hotel after a show X amount of years ago... the next morning journey was leaving detroit but they had this groupie with them and they needed to take her home, they asked where she lived and she said south detroit... what she meant was south OF detroit meaning taylor... i heard the story on 97.1 when the morning show interviewed one of the guys from the band because journey was in town that night and playing at DTE in 2008...

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August 6th, 2011 at 9:24 PM | Way to know stuff... (Score:1)
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and ruin everything for everybody.  :(

mgoblog: it's a perfectly cromulent website

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August 6th, 2011 at 9:34 PM | That's just... (Score:5 Normal)
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...what I do.

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August 6th, 2011 at 9:32 PM | Thanks, Shoe! I feel much (Score:2)
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Thanks, Shoe!

I feel much better now.

Twitter: @meddler76

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August 6th, 2011 at 9:32 PM | For what it's worth, Steve (Score:3 Normal)
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For what it's worth, Steve Perry tells a different tale in this article:

He recalls writing the song with Cain — combining his own memories of smoky nightclubs with an image he had of Detroit from a hotel window after a concert in 1980.

He only found out later there is no such place as the "south Detroit" he sings about —that south of the U.S. city is the Ontario city of Windsor.

"I tried north Detroit, I tried east and west and it didn't sing, but south Detroit sounded so beautiful. I loved the way it sounded, only to find out later it's actually Canada," Perry said.

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August 6th, 2011 at 9:33 PM | Well damn. (Score:2 Normal)
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Well damn.

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August 6th, 2011 at 9:34 PM | WINNING! (Score:1)
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WINNING!

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August 7th, 2011 at 12:27 AM | He could have not admitted (Score:1)
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He could have not admitted the error and said that he meant "south Detroit" not "South Detroit" - as in the southern part of the city of Detroit.

 

Great research on your part.

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August 6th, 2011 at 10:16 PM |  playing at DTE in (Score:1)
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 playing at DTE in 2008...

Ugh, kids these days. This is nails on a chalkboard right here.

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- Mark Dantonio

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August 6th, 2011 at 9:22 PM | I shudder every time I hear (Score:4 Normal)
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I shudder every time I hear Jouney anyway.

"No man is more important than The Team. No coach is more important than The Team. The Team, The Team, The Team" - Bo

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August 6th, 2011 at 11:09 PM | (Score:2 Funny)
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Well, you're obviously a terrorist.

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August 7th, 2011 at 9:44 AM | me too (Score:1)
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but it is marginally better than AC/DC -- a band i wish never to hear again, but Dave Brandon will force me to hear it a lot over the next several fall weekends.

Born in Oklahoma
Raised in Ohio
Escaped to Meechigan

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August 6th, 2011 at 9:29 PM | Steve Perry (Score:1)
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Lead singer of Journey wasn't born and raised in Detroit. It's just a lyric. No one actually says South Detroit because there is no South Detroit.

...confidence is the stain they can't wipe off...

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August 6th, 2011 at 9:39 PM | Damn you, Tony Soprano! (Score:1 Normal)
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Damn you for bringing this crappy song back into prominence.

"[T]here were a lot of people predicting glorious heights for Rich; mostly the same people who are predicting doom and gloom [for Hoke]. Excuse me if I doubt their prognostication skills." -- M-Wolverine

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August 7th, 2011 at 10:19 AM | And damn (Score:1)
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Me for reading this...I will hear Steve Perry's voice (2 words only) all day long.

Mom, MGrad and life long fan living in So Cal

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August 6th, 2011 at 9:43 PM | Better Michigan reference... (Score:2 Normal)
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Is Simon and Garfunkel:

 

Michigan seems like a dream to me now

It took me four days to hitchhike from Saginaw.

 

 

"If life is the road, then Ohio is simply a place to stop for gas." -- Scott Burgess, Detroit News, 9/16/2010
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August 6th, 2011 at 9:48 PM | Even better is... (Score:3 Normal)
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... Alice Cooper's "Detroit City":

 

Me and Iggy were giggin' with Ziggy and kickin' with the MC5
Ted and Seger were burnin' with fever
and let the Silver bullets fly
The Kid was in his crib, shady wore a bib
and the posse wasn`t even alive
Shock rock choppin' block, songs to make your heart stop
Shovie it in ta overdrive

Playing loud and fast
Make that guitar blast
Playing like today will be your last...

Well I was born there
Gonna die there
With all my long hair
Detroit City
You feel your heart beat
You hit the concrete
Dance the mean street
Detroit City

There`s a riot raging downtown
Tryin' to burn the place down
Skies glowin; red and grey
But the Riff kept a Rockin'
The Creem kept a-talkin'
And the streets still smokin' today

Playing loud and fast
Make that guitar blast
Playing like today will be your last...

Well I was born there
Probably die there
With all my long hair
Detroit City
You feel your heart beat
You hit the concrete
Dance the mean streets
Detroit City

Six mile seven mile eight mile nine mile
ten mile eleven mile Detroit city

Louder
Faster
Louder
Detroit City

Well I was born there
Gonna die there
We don`t belong here
Detroit City
You feel your heart beat
Hit the concrete
Dance the mean street
Detroit City

Well I was born there
Probably die there
With all my long hair
Detroit City
You feel your heart beat
You hit the concrete
Dance the mean street
Detroit City

"[T]here were a lot of people predicting glorious heights for Rich; mostly the same people who are predicting doom and gloom [for Hoke]. Excuse me if I doubt their prognostication skills." -- M-Wolverine

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August 6th, 2011 at 11:43 PM | I don't know if they got (Score:2)
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I don't know if they got banned, but they definitely played the Victors in Columbus during their Stadium Arcadium tour just weeks before the #1vs#2 game of the century.

http://michiganzone.blogspot.com/2006/11/suck-my-kiss-columbus.html

There used to be a story on the Columbus Dispatch site, but it's been lost to web history.

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August 7th, 2011 at 12:16 PM | Well if you're going old-school (Score:2 Normal)
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I would have to suggest Panic in Detroit.  Bowie captures a certain something about the city...

You're fat, you're mine, and I NEVER forget.

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August 6th, 2011 at 10:03 PM | Atlantis (Score:1)
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Perhaps he was referring to a mythical underwater part of the city-- a midwest version of Atlantis

Pete

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August 6th, 2011 at 10:07 PM | now (Score:1)
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it resides in the vocal chords of Journeys new Philipino singer, weeeeeeelllllllllllllllll             that looks normal.

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August 6th, 2011 at 10:07 PM | the area where they want to (Score:1)
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the area where they want to build the new bridge, delray. The vicinity of that area is technically south detroit. Anything further down is just downriver.

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August 7th, 2011 at 9:57 PM | Delray (Score:1)
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My wife works in Delray. Most residents consider it part of southwest detroit. They'll be happy just to be noticed on the Board!

Keep your stick on the ice.

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August 6th, 2011 at 10:11 PM | That would be the Detroit (Score:1)
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That would be the Detroit Windsor Tunnel, which is an amazing piece of engineering when you think about it.

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August 6th, 2011 at 10:27 PM | Journey isn't the only one (Score:2 Interesting)
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Journey isn't the only one with this problem. An English group called Paper Lace had a minor hit in the 70s with a song called "The Night Chicago Died". It starts "(Spoken - portentious voice) Daddy was a cop. On the East side of Chicago..." Which would be Lake Michigan. Always check a map when you're writing songs about places you don't know.

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August 6th, 2011 at 10:43 PM | Paperlace!! (Score:1)
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August 7th, 2011 at 2:07 AM | Chicago does have an east (Score:1)
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Chicago does have an east side...anything east of State Street is the east side. However most people just refer to Chicago as North/South/West sides since some parts of Chicago, like downtown, the east side is only a few blocks but if you go south more the east side expands. However they prefer just to call it the south side there.

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August 7th, 2011 at 10:08 AM | Yep (Score:2)
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Having been in Chicagoland a long time, I can say "we locals" call it Lakefront or, if you're pretty good, by neighborhood (Rogers Park, Lincoln Park, South Loop, whatever).

However, saying "Daddy was a cop, on the Lakefront of Chicago" makes it sound like he was arresting drunk college kids for peeing on the beach rather than doing an Untouchables thing.

Because I'm old and grouchy

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August 6th, 2011 at 10:33 PM | Fiction... (Score:1)
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"South Detroit" would make a great fictitious name/home for a sports team in cinema or on TV.  It could go all the way from drama to comedy, depending on how it is done.

 

 

 

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August 6th, 2011 at 11:04 PM | South Detroit (Score:1)
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South Detroit is a great way to say you're from Toledo
if you want to avoid letting on that you're from a particularly embarrassing state to be from

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August 6th, 2011 at 11:16 PM | The neighborhood that makes (Score:1)
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The neighborhood that makes up the southern part of Detroit that makes up that sort of hook is called Delray. Move along.

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August 7th, 2011 at 1:37 AM | The real answer is South (Score:1)
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The real answer is South Dakota:

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=YIc&rls=org.mozill...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_County,_South_Dakota

...and by that, I mean helter-skelter, willy-nilly and putt-putt!

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August 7th, 2011 at 1:48 AM | For our next mystery (Score:1)
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we dive into that Kid Rock song and see if we can find out where this "northern Michigan" really is, if it actually exists.

Follow me on Twitter @gfraley05

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August 7th, 2011 at 1:55 AM | Every time I hear that song, (Score:2 Normal)
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Every time I hear that song, I find myself replacing the first line of the chorus with "We were tryin' different things -- like rhymin' things with things."

...and by that, I mean helter-skelter, willy-nilly and putt-putt!

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August 7th, 2011 at 2:03 AM | How can South Detroit be (Score:1)
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How can South Detroit be Windsor? Wouldnt Windsor just be Windsor? Thats like saying Ypsilanti is South Ann Arbor.

Its just a lyric.

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August 7th, 2011 at 5:49 PM | HARUMPH (Score:1)
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SERIOUS MAN IS SERIOUS

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August 7th, 2011 at 6:12 PM | The important things to remember are (Score:2 Normal)
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The important things to remember are you can’t get there from here and there is no midnight run out of Detroit rock city.

as luck would have it I'm existing in the filter bubble.

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August 7th, 2011 at 2:41 AM | i read the first sentence of your post (Score:1)
JEWBILEE
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and laughed..idk why it just seemed so simple...to answer your question, anything south of 8 mile and east of wayne county would be considered south detroit...i've never been there but i can't imagine it being great 

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August 7th, 2011 at 3:28 AM | If you are from Detroit you (Score:-1 Flamebait)
His Dudeness
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If you are from Detroit you know that there is no "south Detroit." Also, seriously fuck Journey.

or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

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August 7th, 2011 at 9:08 AM | Windsor is the correct answer (Score:0)
ChiefLB
Joined: 12/30/2010
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Windsor was once called South Detroit.  Before the US occupied and claimed that part of Canada (including the coastline running down past Amherstburg's Fort Malden) as part of the War of 1812.  After thed US returned this land to Canada, Windsdor held a city vote and the name of Windsor won out.

With the history lesson now completed, I highly doubt the band named Journey knew this.

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August 7th, 2011 at 10:40 AM | Why is this such a hard (Score:1)
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Why is this such a hard question; Detroit to us northerners is anything south of Lansing hence South Detroit..problem solved :)

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August 7th, 2011 at 11:02 AM | Sign for South Detroit. (Score:1)
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I'm telling all of you. There is a sign heading south on 75 saying "South Detroit". Im not saying it is what Journey is referring to but I have seen the sign, and it opened up my eyes I saw the sign.

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August 7th, 2011 at 3:29 PM | Kick out the jams mf-er (Score:1)
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I like posting this whenever possible. Glory days of Detroit produced some great music...

CoE Class of 2007

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August 9th, 2011 at 8:59 AM | the southest south Detroit I (Score:1)
Mfan2000
Joined: 03/15/2009
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the southest south Detroit I could locate is in Alabama

 

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