When Dads away Little Brother will play . . . and recruit

Submitted by Chi-Blue on

So some may think this is sour grapes after a humiliating loss, but I think  this is the mountain top for the MSU progam as the recruiting landscape has, and continues to change dramatically back to a more recognizable view for Michigan fans.

Recruiting is the lifeblood of any program as is often said.  In the last several years there has been much made of the recruiting preferences of the last staff, and how they were not successful with recruting the region mostly because they chose not to be. Enter Hoke and staff and his primary recruiting base being the Midwest again. Of our 23 commits right now 18 are from Michigan or Ohio with atleast one more one the way . . . Mr. Dunn. State in past years usually had to settle for the second and often times third best after both OSU and Michigan got the best of the area. This reality led to traditional wins for us, and unbriddled inferiority for our little squirt kid-brother down the hall.

IMO there are multiple guys on MSU's roster that would be elsewhere if we would  have gone directly from Carr to Hoke or something similar. Granted this year is a bumper crop year for talent in Ohio and Michigan but do you really think that we would have dipped into Harrison High to grab Funchess, and Ojemudia if we still had RR an the helm? I wanna say RJS somewhere in his recruitment talked about the fact that if RR had still been coach there was no way we would have pulled the Detroit 3 in Stone, Ross, and Richardson. 15 total kids of our 23 had MSU offers and chose us. You can spin that any way you want if you are a Spartan fan, but deep down you know the business thats comin' your way.

A perfect case study ready over diagnosis is the recruitment of Sevon Pittman. He would have been part of the class at OSU save their monetary misappropriations and such. He then moves to trying to commit to Michigan, but alas we are full having taken what we want. He then moves on to his final choice MSU. As we speak the 5-star DT Washington kid from Cinncy area has or will Officially visit MSU. Why you ask, because of the same reason Pittman will sport the green and white . . . and gold and black and green . . . man those were ugly!! 

Of the 18 commits from Mich/Ohio how many do you think had MSU offers as well? 14 of those 18 also held MSU offers if Scout is correct, 14!! Lets look at MSU and their 14 commits to date. All are 3 star to Scout accept 2, Pittman and Burbridge who are 4 star recruits. Pittman was talked about earlier, and Burbridge woulda, coulda, shoulda been a part of our class if not for issues with grades. Even saying that, there are still certain people who work at WTKA, write for the DET news and Scout that think there is still an outside chance he still comes to Mich, I did say outside now as did Sam Webb.

Having said all this, MSU has reached the top of their little mountain and I for one think it starts to go down from here. Cousins is the best true QB to come through there in 10 years so him leaving is a big deal. They will still be OK-good because Dantonio isnt a horrible coach. They do a good job with what they have. What they have though is the key, and I think that all changes this year.

Chi-Blue

October 16th, 2011 at 1:13 AM ^

There is no doubt in my mind that we win next year for a plethora of reasons, and the first is what they lose in Cousins, Martin, Worthy, and Cunningham . . . that is a ton of talent and leadership gone.

Who is their pesumed QB next year??

MattC87

October 16th, 2011 at 10:20 AM ^

is the presumed QB next year. 3 (Scout) and 4 (Rivals) stars out of high school and the No. 4 prospect in Michigan as a senior behind Will Campbell, Edwin Baker and Chris Norman according to Rivals. 11/25 for 123 yards last year, 14/18 for 149 yards and a touchdown this year.

LSAClassOf2000

October 16th, 2011 at 6:24 AM ^

If they really feel that you must win at all costs and therefore they fail to assess the character of the kids that they recruit, and we watched the result yesterday, then MSU can keep doing whatever it has been doing. I wouldn't want to see any of those thugs in maize and blue. That's just not who we are. 

cbuswolverine

October 16th, 2011 at 7:49 AM ^

The notion that we recruited Michigan and/or the midwest less under RR than we did under Lloyd is a myth.

http://genuinelysarcastic.blogspot.c...n-numbers.html

http://genuinelysarcastic.blogspot.c...erception.html

http://genuinelysarcastic.blogspot.c...higan-psl.html

Number of in-state recruits for Michigan since 2002:

2002: Michigan 11
2003: Michigan 6
2004: Michigan 5
2005: Michigan 6
2006: Michigan 4
2007: Michigan 5
2008: Michigan 5
2009: Michigan 4
2010: Michigan 4
2011 Michigan 6

2012 (to date) Michigan 5

AMazinBlue

October 16th, 2011 at 9:48 AM ^

because of all the players they will lose is a bad way to look at it.  I think many thought that going into this year because Jones et al left.  Their top two tacklers from last year graduated and I thnk their D is better than last year.  It isn't who leaves for them, it's who steps up for us.  As much as I hate to admit it, they have better players on the field than we do.  The Gholston types not withstanding, they had better receivers, RBs and linemen.  They have bigger stronger players right now, much of that is from the last three years.  I think we will see the effects of the previous staff's recruiting and training for at least the rest of this season.  That is scary.

Bobby Boucher

October 16th, 2011 at 10:18 AM ^

Recruiting does make a big difference, but so does coaching and execution.  Case-in-point: doesn't Florida St. have top 5 recruiting classes every year but can't win for losing when the season rolls around?  I think recruiting alone doesn't ensure success. 

We had the talent to pull it off.  But, we're not going to win them all.