Now that his tenure at Michigan is officially over, I've been reminiscing over the last three years. There have been highs and lows, but certainly some extreme lows. Personally, the 4th and 1 call from the Michigan State 9 yard line in 2011 still sticks out to me as particularly terrible, though the two point conversion in the BWW Bowl is a close second, while 2013 Ohio State was a high point. I kept waiting for the offense to stagnate but they put together a great game. What do you think are the most infuriating or best playcalls Borges made during his three seasons as OC?
What's on your Al Borges "Best Of/Worst Of" list?
Press conferences with Heiko.
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That's the problem with kids these days, all writing on blogs and not doing their work! Now let me peruse around the internet for another 45 minutes until my boss has left for the day...
...and the worst.
Kidding man, we miss you and your work around here.
603 yards against Ohio State. That was something else, that was. 6TDs and only 2 punts.
Oh, sorry, "best" = "worst". Forgot where I was for a minute there.
Keep fighting the good fight man. Ignore the five games of sub-300 yard outputs and six total debacles. Act like your season long argument holds any substance. The delusion is beautiful to watch.
The thread was titled "What's On Your Best of Borges List." (He's changed it now, but that's what it said when I posted.) Why would I mention something other than his best game?
Oh I know what the original title said. Your point was still obvious.
Their aren't enough threads bitching about Borges. What are you going to over pontificate about now that he is gone. How long can a group of people pile on and complain about one thing/person.
Well, there's around 40-50 comments on the main page arguing about the 2010 offense so....at least 3-4 years?
is there an "over-under" for number of threads, or number of years, or number of ways to complain about a single person?
Hmmmm....Well, Lloyd still gets brought up from time to time in complaints and he hasn't coached here since January of 2008. So I'd say the board will be discussing Borges well into 2020!
My guess is he will be the next target unfortunately.
I apologize, I thought it was literally a best-of thread. My bad, my mistake! You were in the right, I'm the idiot haha.
Vincent Smith HB dive into a 11 man front on 3rd and 5.
His smile. The way he always had the right words to say. The way he felt in my arms. The ... Wait, what are we talking about?
This should be the end of the thread.
Vincent Smith HB pass in the redzone @ Notre Dame last year...smh.
When your offense is going nowhere most of the game, the only chance you have might be to risk it all on a play where nobody expects it.
Anyway, I always liked how personable Borges was. Always explained things in a very down-to-earth fashion and spoke intelligently.
EDIT: didn't read the OP all the way. So your interpretation of "best-of" is "all the hate we can possibly muster"? C'mon man. That's no way to roll.
that play did have TD all over it. guy missed his block. the INT by smith against ND wasn't a bad call either. it was there. smith underthrew it. it was successful before.
i've just hated his overall gameplans, like trying to turn denard into joe montana, instead of just allowing denard to be denard. and then when we have a better passer, plowing into the line 30 times. but part of that blame is on hoke too for allowing it.
Always the throwback screens
In no particular order:
- Gardner/Gallon connection, particularly against Indiana. I've never seen anything like that.
- 2013 ND game. Brilliant in-game adjustments combined with near-flawless QB execution
- 2011 Nebraska. Ohio St was awesome too, but we put serious hurt on the team that, according to many, was supposed to win the B1G.
Yeah, I know I did it wrong, but bringing-up the guy's mistakes and getting myself angry seems pretty lame right now. Borges deserves our gratitude for his work, and I'm much more focused on my joy for the new hire.
He had some very nice moments and games, which is part of the reason I never quite knew what to make of him. I hope he finds a team with some big offensive lineman, some big RBs, and a QB who can throw it a mile, and I hope he puts up a bunch of points against everyone not named Michigan.
QB: Denard Robinson
TB: Vincent Smith
WR: Jeremy Gallon
WR: Roy Roundtree
Slot: Drew Dileo
TE: Devin Funchess
T: Taylor Lewan
T: Michael Schofield
G: Steve Schilling
G: Patrick Omameh
C: David Molk
All Purpose: Devin Gardner
Hemingway over Roundtree or Dileo, Schilling didn't play for Borges. Barnum was probably the best LG in Borges's time, or you could take Mealer.
Steve Schilling never played for Borges. His 5th year was Rods last year
I don't recall Schilling spending time at guard.
Schilling played guard his entire time. What do you remember him as?
his left handed, non-option running, true Freshmen QB starting his first game in a bowl game to run an option to the right into the boundery near the goal line.
that was was pure wtf playing calling gold.
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He had an honestly very smart gameplan that worked great until KSU finally adjusted. But neither of those two great drives ended in touchdowns. That option call I definitely had a WTF moment with Borges. Game over.
It all seems so Borges. HAve great promise, spots of brilliance, but all those wtf moments and coming up to short in the end.
My worst moment with him? The punt fumble recovery against Nebraska. Followed by run run Devin-scramble FG kick. Woohoo. Way to put the cleat to throat there, Al.
The reverse he would call after the one that would work one play prior. I'm not sure how many times this happened, but it was infuriating each and every time.
Nebraska 2011. Ohio State 2011. Notre Dame 2013.
That is all.
Throw in 2012 Iowa and I'm right there with you.
It may be the call he never made. You have Denard Robinson and Devin Gardner and it took Denard getting hurt for him to finnally put them in the same back field.
Don't forget about Denard and Devin's Diamond of Doom. They ran out of that formation before either was injured:
+1, forgot all about this.
I find it fascinating to think, that had they completed the two-pt conversion vs OSU, if it'd have given them enough momentum and incentive to beat KSU, leaving us at 9-4... Would Borges still have been fired ????
...was this a firing of Borges or a hiring of Nussmeier?
I lean towards the latter, which would mean the answer to your question would probably be yes.
ohio we probably would have been playing Georgia in our bowl game in Florida
Even if we'd made the 2-pointer, Gardner still would have had a broken foot and missed the bowl.
Under Center play action pass on 3rd and 10 in the Red Zone against Northwestern in crunch time.
There are so many horrendous calls it is hard to pick one. The guy was just aweful.
any third and long play action call with negative yards rushing.
No he wasn't. Things didn't go accordingly for a plethera of reasons, some of them of course belonging to Borges, but he was not flat out "awful". Respectfully, that's a blind and honestly ignorant outlook on our OC the past 3 years.
Not a Borges lover, but a football lover and there's so much to the game that many around here just don't get. That's all I'll write on the matter. (neg away!).
p.s. I am pretty pumped for Doug.
No my friend, you are ignorant if you think he wasn't aweful. Results speak for themselves. Also, please don't act like your the only one who knows anything about X's and O's, many people on here know a lot about the game.
Ok, I'll touch some of that quickly. I assume you're referring to this "there's so much to the game that many around here just don't get"
..by saying "please don't act like your the only one who knows anything about X's and O's, many people on here know a lot about the game"
I did not say there were no people here with football knowledge, I can name 4-5 in one breath. However, the majority here DON'T know intracies, details, X's & Os, etc. of the game. I'm sorry if that offends but it's a fact. I'm not even an expert, myself. I have a good amount of knowledge, yes, and what I don't know, I don't act as though I do and I assume there's more to it than meets the eye.
The day he left.
The day he was fired is definitely in my top 10.
Best: 2011 against a hapless Minnesota, debut of the several crazy formations (Fritz?). UTL I had just happened, Brady Hoke was still shiny and new, and the sky seemed to be the limit for our offense with Denard.
Worst: 2011 Iowa. Losing at State was disappointing a few weeks prior, but there were mitigating circumstances. Iowa was soul crushing to me and shattered the "we're back" illusion for me completely. IIRC the BIG championship was on the line still too, even with the 1 loss up to that point. We did absolutely nothing all day and showed no signs that we could. If that wasn't bad enough, we flipped a switch and whipped down the field like it was nothing, only to have our hopes dashed by back to back questionable calls. Not only did we suck, we showed late in the game that sucking was a conscious decision by the guy calling the plays and we didn't have to (and ok, Iowa's porous "prevent" defense also helped us at the end)
was pure borges to a T. let's have denard be "mr pocket passer" for the first half and do absolutely nothing. then in the 2nd half, let's let denard be denard. and boom. we have drive after drive only to have borges decided to go back to pocket passing for 4 downs on first and goal to end the game (bad ref calls aside).
northwestern 2011 was the same thing, except denard pulled that one out.
Some really good moments. Like Brian I don't really think UTL 2011 was so much Borges, though it was a classic. But anyway:
2013 Notre Dame
Unfortunately the list of failures is at least twice as long.
That two point conversion play in the Copper Bowl was great. Just a month too late.
With the most important game of the year on the line, Borges choked on his playcall for the 2 point conversion.
forget that he showed them the formation, OSU called timeout and he came back with the same formation.
forget that his call required a QB with a broken foot to quickly plant hard on the broken foot and make a quick throw. that the throw was late was no surprise.
But I almost vomited when we ran the Gallon end around option pass against K State. Do I remember Gallon as a running QB in HS? What an awesome play? Borges would still have a job if he called the Gallon option and won the OSU game.
forget that this is the guy who made Denard Robinson into an ordinary QB
I have always felt a 14 year old with decent Madden skills would have done a better job.
While the bad moments outway the good ones for me
Best- 2013 ND Game
Worst- 2nd half of 2012 OSU
Michigan vs MSU- 168 yards of offense
Michigan vs Iowa- 158 yards of offense
Michigan vs Nebraska- 175 yards of offense
Despite some good moments, this is what I will remember. Three games in one season of under 200 yards of total offense (one against a very good defense, two against not as good defenses). God bless the guy and all the work he put in, but it just wasn't getting results.
Most infuriating Borges play calling for me was 2012 at OSU...
Denard goes into the half avergaing 21.5 yards a carry...
2nd half borges decides to take Devin out of the game and play Denard at QB when he can't throw.. Did he not watch any of Denards freshman film?
It was a complete joke and not being able to cross the 50 yard line is a joke that only a dumbass like him could accomplish
Best= 2013 IU game
Worst= 2012 OSU, any game vs MSU
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Closely followed by that year's UNL game. Worst...too many options, unfortunately. I guess I'd say '12 Ohio, but '12 ND, '13 Penn State, UConn, Akron and every Sparty game are up there too.
It has to be what I believe was the 2-point conversion you speak of in the Chicken Wing Bowl. A lefty QB, speed option right. Damn near got Shane killed and forced me to say out loud, "Al Borges, the man who wants his spread QBs to throw from the pocket and his pocket QBs to run the most demanding of option plays."
Best was 13 Indiana. Yes I know their defense was awful, but you can't ignore the fact that the program record for passing yards was broken, and that Gallon had more receiving yards than every player ever to play college football, with one exception
BBW bowl? Really. Good for you that were still watching. Many to choose from but going into a shell up 10 late against PSU is up there.
Because he didn't pull that one out against ohio
The worst thing about Al Borges was all the ignorant assholes complaining about him and calling for him to be fired all the time.
best: clearly the 1969 osu game. what an upset!
worst: when he went 3-8 in 2008. wow what a bad year.
best: beating stanford in the first rose bowl by a lot.
worst: losing on charles white's phantom TD. we got ripped off.
hold on, what is this thread about?
Who are you to be using foul langauge and calling people names. The people who were too lazy and complacent to speak up are the ones who should be ashamed. The ignorant ones who defended such poor performance should be quiet. The weaklings who suppressed those who care about the University of Michigan and have a committment to higher standards, those weaklings are the traitors to a long and honored tradition.
The question of who was right or wrong in this debate was clearly settled by the decsion of Dave Brandon and Brady Hoke. Those who had the courage to speak up, whether they lost silly points or not, now stand justified.
is that you could literally ruin someone's day but saying his name. What a weapon.