1. I object to being called old.
2. You are saying that the wave is ALREADY impressive enough to make an impact on a 16/17 year old kid? Way to be greedy...
1. I object to being called old.
2. You are saying that the wave is ALREADY impressive enough to make an impact on a 16/17 year old kid? Way to be greedy...
Gotta love college. The point in a persons life where making a wave is "working damn hard."
How about you guys show up on time before you tell the rest of the stadium what to do?
And, FWIW, the Wave has been perfectly fine at every game this season. So I'm not sure what your complaint is.
"Ok I'll go tell the students to be on time from now on and everything will be good," says Michigan student.
"Ok well then I'll tell the alumni to be more spirited at games and it will be grand," replied Michigan alumni.
And then they did and everyone lived happily ever after.
This is boring. Maybe if we start winning games year in and year out again and go to some rose bowls and beat OSU and MSU people will do what you want them to? No wait you guys are right. Asking a massive group of people to do what you want on a fan website will definitely do the trick.
Here's the thread-winner! We can all move on now.
(Then again, maybe it's a good sign that we're arguing about the wave & showing up on time instead of things like the coaches, losing seasons, etc.)
Ok, this is getting rediculous!!!! We as a Michigan family have to HAVE TO find something to argue against each other. We got no problem with the coaching and players right now, the least thing we want to see is us arguing this pathetic students should arrive on time or Alumnis should be more active stuff.
Plus, think about what other schools gonna think of us when they see these posts. SAD
Calmer'n you are.
expect the young people to listen and agree with whatever they say, but as soon as the young people strike back, the world is going to end. /s. Also, would you rather someone bring up the MSU game again?
Now we really separated ourselves to students and the rest. Someone please talk about Iowa.
corn. Probably some wheat too.
the tallest man made structures in iowa are the antenna towers.. i think..
Au contraire my friend! Iowa has a ton of wind farms. Those turbines are up there pretty far.
Also hogs! And Dutch people! And the supposed world's largest cheeto!
The Field of Dreams (reputedly up for sale)
you sound like quite the rebel
How about you acually show up to more than just football games and you can say anything to someone else about being a fan?
Season ticket holder for basketball and hockey here, so yes, I do show up for things other than football games.
Funny how student attendance has been an issue at Yost this season, too. Where are the priorities on campus these days?
have classes and, you know, exams to study for.
Also banging chicks and tripping on LSD to name a few.
Don't know of too many classes that convene around noon on a Saturday. Exams are a complete red herring, too. If you're a student at the University of Michigan, you should be able to budget your time to adequately prepare for your classes AND go to a football game.
I'm quite sure a few thousand students didn't even bother to show up for this game because they were busy hitting the books. Or the 50%+ of the student section that didn't even bother to show up until the 2nd was because they lost track of time combing the stacks at the Grad.
If this were a class in Auditorium C at Angell at 12 on a Thursday, you'd be there on time with no questions asked. Why is a football game different?
"Where are the priorities on campus these days?" The priority for any student on any college campus should be classwork. Classwork is required, sporting event attendance is not. That's probably the biggest difference.
For football games, it is required.
The libraries on Friday night and Saturday morning are even emptier than the student section during pregame. And I'm guessing most of those students that ARE in the libraries those times don't even have season tickets.
People are out partying late on Friday night, or just don't give a damn about Michigan football, and you know it.
Besides, your logic is flawed: if exams were the problem, you'd expect the emptiest games to be around midterms in October, instead of the early season games in September.
Furthermore, the student section usually fills up by the second quarter - people aren't skipping the game to study, they just don't care enough (and/or) are too hungover to show up on time.
If you have a ticket, go to the game and be there on time. If the banner is out by the time you get there, you're late. If you can't start walking 15 minutes earlier, sell your ticket to a fan who will.
Bottom Line is Students are here at University of Michigan for the EDUCATION. So if a student can't go because of studying, are you blaming him/her for that
Students are not rich as you can buy tickets to all Michigan sporting events, also have that much time to go.
You think a student is studying on a Saturday at noon? I mean, there probably are some, but none that have tickets to the game.
Yes if there're exams coming up or interviews to prepare. I know we're all are coming from the same direction, but everyboy has a choice to make. most people decide to wake up 5am prepare for the game, that's their choice. some people decide to sleep in because of a late night party or study whatever, that's their choice.
I'm sure it will get better next season when we have a high expectation for the season.
It's not so much studying during the game as it is being burned out from studying the other 6 days of the week. If you can only pull off three out of the four of 'go out Friday night', 'go out Saturday night', 'catch up on sleep', and 'get up early on Saturday for football', and you're too busy the rest of the week to go out/catch up on sleep, I'm not going to fault you for picking the first three.
Good point. Guess its a good thing the players don't have to study or take tests.
You realize that most football players take the lightest possible load during the fall, and make up for it by taking classes in the spring/summer, right?
Lol at comparing a football game to class, get your head out of your ass, and for the record I had online math hw due saturday and a research paper due sunday at midnight, and work 12-8 today plus my parents were in town. my priorities are completely out of whack so I still went to the football game but to sit there and try to bash students for prioritizing things that are clearly more important than football is asinine and the sort of reason we make fun of people on rcmb. And congrats on being one of like 5,000 people that regurarly show up for bball games but given 100k show up for football its not really all that impressive for our fanbase as a whole. As an aside where you get all that money yo? season tickets are expensive enough as a student
If I could spend 8-9 hours on a football saturday in the MMB, an average student can handle 4 hours on a saturday.
Few things to me are more annoying seeing the games on TV from Cali than the student section having empty seats. I get that tomato can opponents can be tough to sit through, but at least stay until the game is decided.
Students showing up late is a combo of lots of things, studying being one of them. I don't think that's the primary reason though. I know a few people that have missed a game to study, but that's far fewer than the amount of people that miss basketball or hockey to study for an exam.
I think most of it has to do with drinking. My friend gets drunk every Friday night and always rolls in late, still a little hungover sometimes. I'm sure others do the same. Lots of people pre-game, and they don't leave those early enough to get to the game. Lines get huge and it takes a while to get in.
Part of it is the noon start time, part of it that we haven't played really good teams yet.
I just don't buy studying being the number one reason.
I had it easy back in the 90's when there were no such things as classes and exams.
When there was more than enough time for this thread and everyone commenting on it to respond multiple time after midnight on a Sunday.
Maybe manage your internet surfing time and use it for going to football games time.
It's hard to say the wave has been fine at every game when they've screwed up the order in both of the games I've been to.
I like once they've followed the script, they're lost. How about some multiple waves in the same direction, after you've done the crossing waves? (You know, like...waves). or one fast and one slow at the same time. In really bad games they used to mix it up and keep it going. Now it's regular, fast, slow, crisscross, done. Heck, they've even had one after another after another...you were basically standing up and sitting down over and over till the next big play. Anything...mix it up.
I'd be on board with that, but they can't even get through the script.
Get off my lawn
Valid points I thought the same thing a couple of years ago.
your morally ambiguous guts. Unless your an imposter. Then I still hate the real Les Miles, I'm thrown off at your choice of such an evil name, and I agree with your points. I remember at UTL, the ladies in front of us moved away because we were cheering too loudly. Seriously? It's a football game, not a polo match.
Maybe you smelled like poop.
I don't think that the chocolate that guy gave me was really chocolate....
the problem with getting the wave going is that the sections right next to the student section aren't looking at the student section because they're, you know, actually watching the game. (incidentally, i've been in the student section most of the time for the past 9 years, and the last couple of years have been noteworthy in that the students are watching the game a much smaller percentage of the time than students did several years ago.) one way to get the wave started faster would be to start it going in the other direction, since much more of the student section is in the peripheral vision of the people in the north endzone.
also, since somebody will probably bring it up, students have taken to yelling "I" for the sections next to them. for some reason they haven't figured out that the sections next to them are so hard to hear because they're pointed away from them while they yell, not because they're actually that quiet. they're easily audible from across the field (which i know because, when i'm not in the student section, i'm in section 2).
For the life of me I can't think of a single reason why the students wouldn't be as interested in the games the last few years.....
instead of watching the games in a state that would allow you to remember what happened later :-)
For what I pay in tuition, I reserve the right to get drunk, text, and knock up anybody i want at Michigan stadium.
EDIT: Also, if we win out our conference games, Hoke will have exceeded RR's total for conference wins. Maybe those three years had something to do with it?
my issue with the wave was the timing. The first couple attempts to start it were early in the 3rd quarter, when the game was actually going on. Way too early.
Its supposed to be after a score in the 3rd quarter in a blow out.
because I've been in the student section all year, but I've been going to at least a few games a year for about the last ten, and the "I" section IS noticeably quieter than the others, even from non-student section seats (I've sat all over the stadium and it always seemed quieter no matter my seat)
Eeee gads man, I've dropped my Grey Poupon! I say, Buffy, Skippy, what's all this "wave" bally hoo about? Down in front young man!
So this isn't a retort to that last thread, but you are using the same format question for the topic name and complaining about the alumni in a manner parallel to the last thread? If you say so...
Oh no this post is not going to end happy...
It didn't even start happy
Stand the f up. If you wanna sit, sit during timeouts and halftime.
Oh noes. This will not end well.
Ironically at the game saturday it took the student section quite a while to get the wave out of thier own section. It always died down where the pink block M was.
I was in the pink block M and I know that I refused to do it, along with a few others at that point in the game. We were only up by 15 at that point and Purdue had the ball. Even though the game was in control, it was definitely not over at that point. I felt prouder at that point of the alumni than my fellow students because they were actually watching the game. The students should be making consistent noise and the game should be thoroughly wrapped up before the attempts for the wave begin, IMO.
I see what you're doing...
I also refused to do the wave for the same reason, and I was in the section that was trying to start it. A 15 point lead against any opponent is not enough of a lead for me to be distracted by doing the wave. At that point, I was still intently watching the game, making sure that we would pull out the W.
Also, just curious, does anyone think that it distracts the players? (not saying I won't/don't do it in a blow-out) Especially when the student section starts cheering (when the alumni picks up the wave) at a seemingly random point in terms of what's happening in the game; I could see that being kind of confusing. Maybe (and hopefully) the players are just so focused on what's going on in the game that they don't even notice...
side of the Stadium its pretty hard to see the students and when they get the wave going. Especially when they are, ya know, watching the game.
It is hard to see thousands of people all wearing the same t-shirt.
I wasn't sure which side of the argument to take until I saw the wave being listed as a good thing. Go alumni!
If you're unenthusastic about the wave, snipers stationed on top of the boxes will blow a hole in your head right in front of your friends or family.
I dare say we'd have the greatest wave the world has ever seen.
So fucking retro - are you doing the wave ironically?
After the past few years I actually enjoyed watching the universe realign as Michigan throttled a lesser opponent, as expected.
Doddering old alum here (okay, so I exaggerate a bit, other than the alum part), went to the Minnesota game (first game in years), wave going actively in both directions at the same time without a break for many cycles, I and my doddering friends concentrating so we'd pick up our cues. Very successful with no training. (I suppose it being the Minnesota game may have had something to do with it, not needing to pay such close attention to the game.)
For being blind, deaf, and wheel-chair bound, that is impressive.
Cripes, people. It's a big stadium. You can't fill it with all students or all blue hairs or 100% perfect fans who share your exact sensibilities about when to arrive, when to sit, how loud to holler, what music to hate, when to leave, and how much to hate the fricking uniforms in a given game.
How about all of us show a little tolerance for our fellow Wolverines. We are on the same side, rooting for the good guys. And none of us poop in coolers.
You can call a chicken a duck but it is still a chicken.
Definitely a response to the previous thread.
I'll bring the marinade.
From the O.P.:
"This is a not a retort to the "What's wrong with students?" thread . I agree that we are disappointing at times. But I do have some gripes about the Alumni."
When someone says it's not about the sex, it's about the sex.
I feel like the people working concessions need to step their game up.
I agree with some of your points. But I still have nearly just as much of a problem with this kind of thread as I did with the 'whats wrong with the student section'. I don't think we should divide ourselves as fans. Student and alumni still cheer for the same guys in the same beautiful winged helmets. It's a slippery slope from this to 'walverine' accusations. We get it. No section is perfect. If I had my way section 1 would stand the whole game and sections 32 would stop singing 'you suck'. But it won't happen. Complaining here won't change much, as pretty much everyone here wants to cheer as loud they can for the maize and blue, and this is essentially preaching to the choir.
I agree with everything in your posts. However, this is the internet, where everybody has to be right. Even you know this, as your post will be read, and subsequently ignored and people will go on doing what they do. I generally think the boards are sometimes a bit more sane after a loss, as everybody is depressed and blaming obvious scapegoats. After a win you tend to see these threads pop up about music, students, etc.
U MAD BRO?
And that it's just the internet.
But this is the MGoBoard. Fergodsakes.
Since my first game at the Big House (age 7) I have always wondered why people outside of the student section don't go bat-shit crazy on third downs. Some say Michigan Stadium is quiet relative to its size because of the design of the stadium, but I disagree... The Big House was extremely loud UTL this year unlike anything I have ever heard in consistant attendance over the past 14 years.
I attribute this mostly to the alums who don't want to make noise. It's very frustrating because we could have a greater home-field advantage if the rest of the stadium was as loud as the student section regularly is.
Hey, maybe the students and alums will all just take each other out in the Great Student-Alumni Pissing Contest of 2011 and then us Wal-Marters can finally get into the stadium at reasonable prices AND not be told to sit down!
I have a new chant idea. The blue hairs all yell "sit down!" at which point the students yell "stand up". It's not as intimidating as it is confusing for the opposing team, but just think about how loud it would be in there.
Side note. The seniors this year really have to figure out the order of the wave. Last game it was (Forward Forward Fast Slow Etc.)
The Fast should be after the slow. It adds an awesome contrast after the build up of the long slow wave.
That is all.
Yeah, The people in fron were signaling to slow it down while people in the upper rows were signaling to speed it up after it went around the first time. In the end, the upper rows are more visible, so they will win.
The fast should precede the slow for the very reasons you espoused. If the slow comes first, the wave typically dies out before the fast even happens.
It's funny how the "correct" way alternates. In the late 90s (my old timer era), it was always:
In the past decade, I've seen it go to Slow-Fast, then back to Fast-Slow, and back and now (apparently) Slow-Fast again.
I've only been to the first two home games this year due to my kids' sports schedules, but I'll be keeping a close eye in the final two games this year to be sure everyone is doing everything right, i.e. the way I want it done.
As somebody who graduated in April...there's no point in these types of posts. Do I wish that the alumni were louder and less down-in-frontish? Yes, don't we all. Do I wish that students would show up on time, not jingle their keys, and pay attention to the game instead of worrying about starting the wave? Absolutely. However, Michigan is not the only place where this type of divide exists.
People are going to do what they're going to do...end of story. I wish everyone was as hardcore as the people on this site are but that's just never going to be the case, and antagonzing people for not being a certain way really doesn't accomplish anything. At the end of the day, both the students and the alumni bring something to the table re: the gameday experience.
but... in terms of atmosphere we could be more like the SEC.
I feel so dirty now.
It's a Bro Down.
OP needs to grow up. Such a childish post.
Well... IMO, the fact that you start your post with "This is a not a retort" says it all. You whining about old timers not getting loud is not refreshing and rather childish by itself, but it gets worse when it is indeed a blunt reply to another post of similar nature.
FWIW, this is not the first time I read similar comments on student section this year. (from a different board at the beginning of the season.) I don't think it is a conincidence that student section expanded for the 2011 season. Students should have a privilege to have secured seats if they want to attend the games, but they also should know that it is indeed a privilege.
says it all.
After I posted my reply, I realized that you were not the OP. But I didn't bother to edit it because you seemed to have the same reaction. I am sure students in the past didn't have to study or take midterm exams. Great excuses.
"In my day, we didn't have fancy football games on television. For entertainment we juststood in a field and starred at the sun until our eyes melted. And that's the way it was and we liked it!"
The alumni are doing their damnedest this year to fit in with you whippersnappers, and this is the thanks they get? Harsh man.
Freaking idiots have mixed up slow/fast twice this year.
Also maybe the reason the first attempts at the wave didn't succeed is because we weren't winning by 3 touchdowns. I'm pretty sure it was written down somewhere that the wave was only for the 3rd quarter if michigan was winning by three or more touchdowns.
And on offense; you should still be concentrating on noise while we are on defense. Not only did they mix up the slow and fast, but one of the games, they skipped the criss cross. That's like making macaroni and forgetting the cheese.
an alum of recent vintage. The Slow-Fast order was only recently (for a short span of 3-5 years) been in the Slow then Fast paces.
So hard to say it's "wrong" unless you know the "right." So your "wrong" is my "right" as it was Fast then Slow in the late 90s and was Slow then Fast in the late 00s.
I just find it funny that it alternates. And honestly, the past 3 years have seen so few times to break the wave out at all, it's not surprising that they went "throwback" to 15 years ago.
Bo was right.
But he might have liked Rocket Man; especially in a Michigan helmet. So here's HD video, for the one-half of the student ticket holders who, the video shows, weren't there, even by the time the band had entered, they had raised the M Club banner and the team was on the field. And oh yeah Rocket Man had, uh, brought the game ball.
Students: be like Lloyd Brady. All of you.
Alumni: get with the program a little. It took the students at least ten tries to finally get the wave going. Plus we want noise. Noise means A. Delay of game B. Time out burned C. False start or D. The noise can just mess with their concentration
The reason you can't hear the "C" when everyone spells Michigan is because of where you sit, not how loud they say it. Having sat in all four corners at various times, I have noticed that it is always impossible to hear whichever letter is on the same sideline on the other side of the 50. Students can't hear the C. My season tickets are in the opposite corner, so I can't hear the A. The people in the NE corner can't hear the G. Etc. So before you call out the "alumni" for being unable to say one letter, try sitting somewhere else and you'll realize that's simply wrong.
I know this is a minor point, but I have heard that complaint a surprising number of times.
It's just an example, could be anything. Bottom line u don't have the right to talk about students if ur not a student. Understand that kids don't cOme here for football Ok?
My thoughts on this thread:
Isn't it wonderful that we're arguing about how the fans should be better rather than the team? These are so much better problems than we've been used to these past few years. Like, we aren't talking about what's wrong with the defense, or the special teams, we're bitching about students getting to the stadium late and piped-in rawk music. May we always be so lucky as to bitch about these things.
Bacon notes at one point in his book that Michigan fans are unique in their ability to find things to complain about.
Awesome. I was thinking that we could use a little more divisiveness in this fanbase. This is a particularly hilarious brand of it.
Brian's emo-ness the last 3 years has obviously had an effect on all of us.
BTW, Alum here.
In the process of doing the wave at the EMU game, I nearly down-in-fronted someone with the rather expensive pair of field glasses that I happen to own, so in games since then, I take them off to do the wave since a closed head injury is a terrible thing to get on Saturday.
The students should worry about themselves having an attendance rate above 60% before they worry about us alumni and the wave -- especially a wave the students are doing out of order.
to the unwritten rules regarding the wave? Back in the day (yes the REAL back in the day), the wave was done at the start of the 4th quarter and only if 1) we were in the lead by a confortable margin and 2) the opposing team had the ball.
It was worse with the previous press box too, by the way. It was always a chore to get the wave started.
I think the answer to your question is nothing.
Really? Damn, I swear I saw half the student section empty two minutes before kickoff. Working damn hard doesn't JUST include between the third and fourth quarter. Raise your game son....The students in general need to pick their shit up.
guys, I can't wait until we're good enough to be 7-1 entering November with a solid chance at winning 10 games again so we don't have to go through this shit ever again
what's that you say?
oh god no
Can MGoBoard stop incessantly complaining about everything? Good lord.
You know the answer is no.
Are you new here?
If you must use such a clumsy sentence, it's "we students," not "us students." This is something you should have learned in middle school. Please tell me that you are not an authentic University of Michigan student.
You must be ashamed that the football team is composed of Michigan students as well.
You guys are all being little bitches
First and foremost: the wave. Us students work damn hard to get it going
Since when did going "1, 2, 3!" and then throwing your arms in the air constitute grueling physical labor?
I wish the wave would die in a tire fire.
Actually, the wave is fine when the game is boring - when Michigan has it well in hand and you need some kind of diversion. Otherwise it's incredibly irritating. Even as a student, it used to drive me fucking crazy that people would try to get it started during close games when I just wanted to fucking watch the team (and yes, to fucking make noise.) Seriously, how do thousands of people, almost all of whom have been vetted through the admissions process to be at least moderately intelligent, get so excited time and time again by the idea that, if people stand up in a sequence, it looks SO AWESOME?
Get off my lawn etc., I guess, but it's been pissing me off since I was a freshman.
Bo hated the wave because it disrupted the concentration of the players and diverted attention from the action on the field. And those of us who have participated in it since the 80's think it's getting just a bit stale. Surely the students can come up with something new.
I was in the stadium the very first time the wave was ever done (1983). To this day, it is still an impressive sight. In a lot of places, it is just dumb. But in Michigan Stadium, especailly around those wide corners, it is a sight to behold.
Seconded. I was a cranky man by the time I was a sophomore. Don't start the fucking wave in the third when we're down by a touchdown and driving.
STAY OFF MY LAWN!!!
What about alumni that sit IN the student section? Paradox!
Don't tell me how to do the Wave. Back in the day, we did the Wave uphill in both directions in bare feet . . . or something like that.
Seriously, sucky fans suck. Beyond that, let's just get along and cheer for our team. When we did the first Wave in 1983 (get it?), the great thing about it was that something the students started was embraced and shared by the old folks who used to sit where I sit now. It was a bonding experience and when we all cheered at the end of that original Wave, that is what we were cheering about.
As for the Fuck the Wave guy, when have you ever seen a Wave when the game wasn't in hand? There may be idiots who try to start a wave at an inappropriate time in the game (close game, when we are behind, etc.), but I have never seen one take off without it being a romp. That is one problem of the last few years -- not enough Waves. Waves are fun and they bring people together. Quit getting pissed off.
Actually, one of the best things about the Wave was that it was an opportunity to get real about the fact that the game wasn't serious anymore. Schembechler hated the Wave. He used to turn around, face the students, and shake his hands at us. We laughed. It was great. Light the cigar. Game over.
We students. Show us old-timers that degree is still what it used to be.
I just find it ironic that everyone is arguing about this after Hope blamed the loss on crowd noise...
That may explain why the lack of crowd noise (i.e. students) at the start of the game let Purdue score so easily on the opening drive.
I'm no longer a student, graduated in 2007. Have to tell you though, the alumni section is the worst. I used to live very close to the stadium while in school, parked cars and all that before heading to the game. Every opposing team fan that stopped by always said the same thing: our alumni section is so quiet compared to their school. I've been to some great games since with alumni tickets, and it's embarassing how quiet it is there. I was told to be quiet during the Notre Dame 2009 game. Be quiet!?
They make next to no noise during big third downs. For every "wave" they refuse to do while watching the game there are a dozen important downs that they are completely quiet for. I'd say the latter is the greater offense.
My section (17) is nearly all alums and we are loud as heck and never do the "sit down" thing. I usually get hoarse by the end of a game, as well as only sit down during TV breaks.
So, if you mean the Victors section in the middle of the 40s, then I can see what you mean (though it's been a while since I sat there). But not all quiet folks are alums (in fact, many are just people who've been going a long, long time) and not all alums are quiet.
Just like not all students have a clue what is happening on the field.
Do not read MGoBlog.
Student section ain't what it used to be. Alas. Mostly the team's performance the last few years, maybe, has taken a bit of emotion out of it. That and it appears it's now frowned upon to consume certain beverages, and other things, that might enhance some emotions.
I have taken a goalpost or two down. Even tried to take O$U's down one glorious day, back in the day. Back when the winning streak in the series was our winning streak. Had a pleasant chat with an Ohio trooper carrying a big stick about it. I agreed to leave his goalpost where it was, he agreed not to hit me in the head. All in for Michigan.
So I know something about makin it happen in the student section.
But, here's my $.02
We invented the f'in wave we'll do it when we feel like it.
Here's an idea. Try going vertical with it; you know up and down your section. That would be inventive and cool. And, you'd get to stand up for 0.5 seconds, and we can watch the game.
I'll wear whatever damn shirt I want to wear. Thanks. That's not a Michgan thing, that's copying somebody else's thing.
The alumni section sucked in 1975 and it sucks today. Get over it, kid. Someday you'll be an alum and you'll be sittin with the rest of us. And you'll suck, too.
Show up on time for godssake. We're gonna start sitting in those empty student seats someday. And show you how it's done.
I will say this. Arguing about this shit is a lot more fun that complaining about what's happening on the field. Finally something trivial to fight about while we ALL enjoy the game. Next year, at this time, we might even be arrogant asses again.
I agree with you on everything but the "I'll wear whatever shirt I want" thing. It takes about 30 extra seconds of effort to put on a maize shirt or buy a maize hat to show that you give half a damn about atmosphere and environment in the stadium. If you feel compelled to tell students to show up on time, you should feel compelled to add to the game day environment.
Seriously, Michigan games are depressing to go to. I'm a season ticket holder but it's almost like what's the point. Besides the Notre Dame game, its almost like you get shunned or yelled at if you actually cheer or get excited. I've been to games at Penn State, Wisconsin, etc and it was refreshing to see even the older fans all wearing the same color and all standing and cheering for their team. They definetly weren't being old stubborn asshole Michigan fans that can only be heard yelling when their saying down in front. Sorry, but I'll never understand people that attend a football game at any age and expect to just sit there and the rest of the world around them to be zombies and golf clap on touchdowns. It's embarrassing.
It's pointless and too often used in close games when the focus should be on motivating the team and producing noise to distract the opponent
This seems to be a popular topic for as long as I can remember. I'm a life long Wolverine fan who attended his first game this weekend. My observations:
* It was HC so I expected thousands of student no-shows......and there were.
* The seating just isn't condusive to racous cheering...although I did my best others be damned.
* The percentage of those over 55 was much higher than I expected. Look, when I am 65 I doubt I will be raising hell either. Offer the over 55 crowd sectional seating in an area they can view the game and not be affected by those of us actually cheering on our team.
* Obviously...not selling beer affects crowd noise.
* At least one night a year and one or two 3:30 kick-offs. Let those students get marinated a bit. The later starts will probably draw out a younger crowd.
Just a few observations. The crowd was about what I expected and I fully understand it was HC.
Damn old people, get down ON my lawn!
I love Michigan football, but a noon start versus Purdue on a relatively cold day would induce extra drinking for me on gamedays.
I'll admit it: I was pretty bad about showing up late as a student, but I would say opponent and start time have more to do with how early I woke up and therefore how early I get to the game than anything.
I'm not really sure who all these students are that use exams as an excuse for not showing up Saturday, but I doubt a lot of those types people are showing up when they don't have exams anyway. It's Purdue and it was Homecoming weekend: students were probably having a fun time partying. Noon sneaks up on you, especially when your party is on East U, Church, etc.
If the old people start cheering, the students show up on-time, and people stop drinking Diet Pepsi, everyone will be happy. Then again, that leaves fewer threads for people like me in which to make smartass comments.
Yeah, you can't very well start a wave at the beginning of the third quarter, there is a TON of game left and we were only up by what, 15 points when we first tried to start it? Even if we were up by 22 that's still not blowing out (getting there) a terrible Purdue team.
I am 62. I love the student section when they are loud and start the wave and do anything to make it louder. The students create the atmosphere and everyone else feeds off of it. However, older people that don't have sex any longer don't get into the games like they used to and we have a ton of them at the games. Lol. The younger crowd has to make up for them. To the students! It's your school so please support it. When you are there keep the noise level up to inspire the rest of us. Thanks.