No no no. Please I don't want a fight. Or to be negged into Bolivian. I'm willing to learn the ways of the Brandon. I'm willing to be ALL-IN for DB. I want this to end well. I liked Bill Martin enough. I've read an awful lot about the history of Michigan ADs (because I had to teach about it). My favorite AD ever is Tom Jurich at Louisville because he's made a bunch of great hires and has a bluster about him and I like the cut of his jib. End well, dammit!
What's so awesome about Dave Brandon, anyway?
Are you Bill Martin?
You left me with no choice but to release the insane evil toddler
. . . does not know Zizek from Chex Mix. And in the mind of this empiricist, that's a compliment to Bill Martin.
Or to be negged into Bolivian.
Is this for true? Or did you do it on purpose?
Maybe it was autocorrected?
its the same word, just switching the first two letters
...into Bolivian, you say?
This is actually serious. I don't want to say what I think your name is, but do you have dreads and were a gsi for Bacon?
I know this trick. I say "yeah" and then you neg me. We've been through this before; it was called evals.
But really, who are you, then?
I was in your discussion section fall of 09. That is the only class I could think of where you would teach about Michigan AD's, and I remember you said you were a Louisville fan (went to undergrad there as well I think). I was the kid who was taking the class independent study and had to write two papers. I think the one I wrote for you was about the freshman eligibility rule.
Oh hey, B. I remember you well. Or fairly well. That was a pretty good paper. You graduated this year, right? Engineering? Hope you're well.
Got my popcorn ready...
He fixed Martin's comedy of errors.
He played for Bo, and is referenced in Bo's book.
That hair makes Gerg's hair slightly jealous.
He was a ridiculously successful CEO of dominos.
He says things like: "The Freep should apologize for their hit job" [paraphrased]
"Saying Rich needs to win X number of games this year is stupid" [paraphrased]
Search MGoBlog for the tag "Dave Brandon's Pimp Hand" and you'll see a few more reasons
Tom Goss also played at Michigan. Granted, he didn't play under Bo, but Bo was a huge fan of his. In the first edition of his book, Tradition, he wrote: "He's going to be a great AD." We should be careful not to be overly influenced by things like this.
I think Brandon rocks and he is doing a phenomenal job. I could not be happier with his decisions up to this point.
And what have you done for UM lately?
If you don't want to attempt to seriously answer his question, just don't say anything.
Strong Leadership. That's all I have to say.
I demand the mods neg you one miiiiiiillion points!
You hand over those two fine young lasses in your avi
Ha -- good luck! I've already tried that.
You do realize that they are porn stars right?
*runs to get tested*
I know I'm an outsider, but can we stop using the word "jihad" on this site when referring to the NCAA Investigation? As a Muslim, it pains me enough to have the word being mis-used and misunderstood on tv for political reasons, but is it really necessary to mis-use on a Sports Blog?
I don't mean to single you out aawolve, as I've seen others do it to. I'm just throwing out a suggestion. Anyways, I don't want this to turn into some kind of political discourse so I'll stop right here....back to David Brandon.
Your comment kind of made it into a religious/political thing, no?
I see what you're saying. That's why I chose not to delve into more detail. To each his/her own.
Jihad can mean many things, but "holy war" is certainly an important and mainstream form of jihad. This is how the word is used here. This from Wikipedia:
Controversy has arisen over whether the usage of the term jihad without further explanation refers to military combat, and whether some have used confusion over the definition of the term to their advantage.
Middle East historian Bernard Lewis argues that "the overwhelming majority of classical theologians, jurists, and traditionalists (specialists in the hadith) understood the obligation of jihad in a military sense." Furthermore, Lewis maintains that for most of the recorded history of Islam, from the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad onward, the word jihad was used in a primarily military sense.
Bernard Lewis' interpretation on Jihad is partially correct according to Fiqh Made Easy: A Basic Textbook of Islamic Law which describes Jihad as being "divided into four types:
- Jihad against the soul: Struggling against the soul to yearn for the Religion, act upon those teachings, and call others to them. (Paraphrased)
- Jihad against Shaytan: Struggling against Satan without doubts or desires.
- Jihad against the disbelievers and hypocrites: this is done with the tongue, hand, heart and wealth.
- Jihad against heretics, liars, and evilfolk: This is best done with the hand, if not the hand then the tongue, if that's not possible then the heart." 
So, yes, the term "jihad" has multiple meanings, and there is debate about whether the warfare element of the term is overemphasized, but that jihad includes a conception of warfare is not widely disputed.
for negbombs from all the sensitive Sallys. +1 for not being afraid to say something, unlike everyone else.
I don't disagree w/ anything you've said and won't be negging you. It's all true. There is def. a military aspect to the concept, no arguing that.
2 quick points:
- If you study the Quran, you'll find that the majority of Jihad mentions are about your first bullet point (Struggle against yourself)....which basically translates to ending bad habits, being a better person, etc.
- Again, there is no denying the fighting aspect of it, but the devil is in the details. I'm no scholar but I know fighting is only allowed to be in self defense and there are rules behind it (civilians and livestock are off limits). It's not supposed to be some full-scale "us vs. them" onslaught.
Sorry if this is getting way way OT. For those that would like to talk more, I'd be more than willing to discuss offline.
Yes, you certainly have missed something big. He handled the NCAA sanctions with class and dignity. DB is finally investing in some basketball facility upgrades. First night game in history of Michigan. Scheduled Alabama in 2012 at Jerry World. Look if you aren't impressed by now there is no hope for you. He also slayed a dragon. Does that help you out?
The basketball facilities, and the lights in the stadium, were planned before Brandon arrived.
Handling the sanctions with "class and dignity" should be expected of any AD, not some incredible accomplishment.
I'm still not sure why it's such a great thing to deprive Michigan fans of a home football game in 2012 to line Jerry Jones's pockets.
I'm also not happy that he was not only willing but eager to put us in a different division from OSU. I am disapppinted to be separated from them. Having the Game at the end of the season is only a partial consolation.
He might prove to be a good AD, but really hasn't done much of substance to impress me yet. We'll see where he goes from here.
certainly been somewhat negative lately, jm.
Do you disagree with any of my points? BTW, I forgot a couple more:
-He banned outside bottled water at Michigan Stadium.
-He kept Special K employed as our PA sound guy.
And while some may disagree, I find the idea of launching fireworks before, during and after the Big Chill to be very, very tacky.
Brandon is obviously a powerful and well-calculated leader.
I am a little nervous he will over-commercialize the Michigan brand. I'm not totally against this as long as it is executed well. Not a whole lot of data points to infer from now, but I'm pretty sure his tenure will be a success.
The Arby's logo on the Big Chill merchandise is stupid though. We better have gotten seriously paid from that.
I'm definitely concerned about over-commercialization. The dangerous thing is that, because he's an ex-player, and a smoother public speaker, Brandon has "political capital" that Martin never had. When Martin nearly struck a deal to sell the naming rights to the Game, it led to an outburst of "Martin's a coldhearted businessman who doesn't get it" complaints. I don't think that will happen if Brandon tries it. He'll find a way to make us support calling it the Progressive Insurance Game to Progress to the Championship or something.
I agree with your other posts but lets not fly off the hinges and conjure up things that may never come to pass.
Obviously, the Game won't be called exactly that. But I'd bet it will have a corporate sponsor in the near future. I also expect the new scoreboards in the stadium to contain advertising. Brandon's status as a former player gives him cover to make these moves.
The world almost came to an end with the halo, ads will never go inside the stadium. You can take that to the bank (maybe there was a better way to say that)
You've got to believe Brandon knows we don't want this, right?
I don't know. He may bet that we'll become desensitized to commercialism if it happens incrementally - and he could be correct about that.
I definitely am concerned about this. I like how he's dedicated to strengthening the brand and says the right things, but I hate how he seems to take a relatively short term view on issues that up revenue but, in my opinion, dilute the brand.
The counter to this is for blogs like this to shape the brand how we want to. Brian has mentioned how he won't buy a Big Chill shirt because of the Arby's logo - a sentiment I agree with. So why don't we design an MGoShirt for the Big Chill? Hell, if we make it maize with those stripes on the sweater being worn at the game, a goofy looking wolverine, something that says "Cold War 2: Beat State @ Michigan Stadium," everyone will know what it means and we shouldn't run amok of Arby's and the University. I'm sure there are MGoBloggers with better idea's than me on a good shirt, but let's make this happen!
I'm no purist, but the Arby's logo on the ticket shocked me when I opened my season ticket envelope. I thought it was a ticket to a minor league baseball game at first...
Even with the payday that was a bad move and dilutes the M brand to a certain extent. He seems pretty level-headed, though, so I'm willing to bet he'll learn from it.
Brandon may well conclude from the failed SBC deal is that if he's going to sell out, it needs to be for more money than what Martin was willing to do. He's openly talking about increasing our revenue streams and going to "non-traditional" sources. People should think about what he means by that.
While I agree with you that I am concerned about those statements, if increased revenue streams do lead to more home-and-homes with higher profile teams and more sports (like lacrosse) and more scholarships for non-revenue sports, I may be okay with it.
I'll still be pissed when I see the Arby's logo inside Michigan Stadium at the Big Chill.
it DB's idea to play the Bed Intruder song. he pushed Special K down a set of stairs to get control
I will take a game at a neutral site against a quality opponent over a home game against the likes of Delaware State any day.
Other than that, you make some good points.
There is no reason for the choice to be between a neutral-site game and a I-AA opponent. If those are our only two options, it's because we're thinking only about the bottom line. For crying out loud, MSU just got Alabama to agree to a home-and-home later this decade. Good teams can and will sign home-and-home contracts. Don't believe for a minute that it can't be done.
So take my opinion for what it's worth. But I love that Michigan is playing 'Bama in JerryWorld. It's closer for me (and a lot of other Michigan fans) than 90% of Michigan's games have been. It's huge exposure, and will hopefully jumpstart recruiting in Texas to rival the Florida operation.
I'm sure Michigan will sign a good home-and-home, preferably in years when UM/ND is on hiatus. Adding Nebraska makes our schedule tougher than just about ever.
I do understand the frustration for season tix holders re: 2012, tho'. Hopefully DB brings in a good team in 2014. (2011 and 2013 are going to be very good years for home games.)
I don't have a problem with the fireworks either before or after the game, but I certainly hope more sensible heads prevail and kill the idea of launching fireworks after every Michigan goal. Very tacky indeed.
I'd be okay with one fireworks show - either before or after the game. But not both. And definitely not during the game. That's veering straight into Bill Veeck territory.
Bill Veeck is a hall-of-famer. Maybe we need to venture towards his territory more often.
He also stated on WTKA that he wasn't against The Game being played in the middle of the year. That was certainly unsettling. I haven't been overly impressed but when you go from Martin to Brandon it's expected that people will view him in higher regard. It has everything to do with how he conducts himself in pressers and other speaking platforms.
I believe he made that comment knowing it would draw a huge negative reaction and compel the Big 10 to keep the game in its traditional position. I think he understands and fully supports the Michigan traditions and is working to maintain them. One doesn't reach the level achieved by DB without being very shrewd.
I don't think you can make an assumption like that without any facts or even rumors to back it up. Conspiracy theories are only cool when they're about aliens or the government.
When asked directly as to why he and OSU's AD mentioned this, he all but confirmed it was done to cause a groundswell of ANGAR to get the Big Ten to back down on the matter. It was cold, calculated and deliberate.
One doesn't reach the level achieved by DB without being very shrewd.
No one will accuse the man of lacking intelligence. My concern is that his long-term ambitions are different than those of much of the fanbase - but that he's savvy enough to nudge us towards them all the same. .
If he did leak that information then why support the decision of moving The Game?
We are talking about a former politician here. It's possible that he initially was in favor of moving the Game, but after the massive outcry, flip-flopped and now is simply in denial about his initial position.
That was a shrewd move on his part, I had no idea that was the case. Well played, DB.
I was unaware of that entire situation. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. +1
Edit: Meant for aaamichfan.
I think he handled a bit better than what is "expected" from an AD. At no point did he plead for the NCAA's forgiveness. He brought forth Michigan's case and stood by our head coach.
The Alabama game was a big deal because at the time the it was announced the program needed some positive buzz. Jerry Jones be damned we needed something to get in coming recruits excited about Michigan again.
OSU in a different division is the work of Delaney. OSU vs. UM x 2= dollar, dollar bills yall.
DB is the only thing the old guard and the new guard can agree on. So that makes him great as well.
-I'm curious to know why you think Brandon handled the sanctions better than what is expected. I don't think he said or did anything remotely unusual.
-I don't care what "buzz" the Jerryworld game got us. That deal deprived 109,000 season-ticketholders of a home game. (And sadly, we aren't likely to see any reduction in per-game ticket prices, despite this.)
-Brandon has freely admitted that he was fully in favor of putting us in a separate division from OSU. He actually made the "one Game is special, two are better" argument, which made me cringe.
-I really don't care what the old, new, or middle-aged guard thinks.
-I'm curious to know why you think Brandon handled the sanctions better than what is expected. I don't think he said or did anything remotely unusual.
I think that it is fair to compare and contrast Brandon's response to the sanctions with other ADs. First of all, Martin didn't do much when it came to addressing the Freep allegations. I realize that Martin was in his last days and all, which is why he didn't do much to respond, but it was nice to see a more decisive response from the University when Brandon took over the reins.
More importantly, the investigation and sanctioning process turned out very well for Michigan. We successfully fought one of the allegations and did not receive any damaging penalties. And we came off fairly well in the press. This is rather remarkable because we managed to be (or at least appear to be) cooperative and defensive at the same time, something that other ADs (looking at you Mike Garrett) cannot pull off. In sum, Brandon did a very good job of PR during the sanctioning process, which is a clear positive, imo.
That said, I too have a major issue with Brandon. This issue is that his priority is clearly to make money at the expense of the wishes of the fanbase, which I think is made clear by the contents of the list of problems you have with Brandon.
I can see both sides of most of these arguments. But the "buzz" the program gets from the Alabama game, in terms of national exposure, in terms of recruiting hype is extremely significant. It's also a sick matchup we would have been unlikely to see otherwise. There's certainly a "this is Michigan, we don't need national exposure" argument, but after the last few years in football and the last decade in basketball I'd firmly disagree with you.
The cost is one home game, one year. The mild disappointment on a single Saturday of the subset of fans who would rather watch a MAC opponent at home vs. Alabama on TV is a cost I'm willing to bear.
Do you have season tickets?
Why do you assume it would be a MAC team? Maybe not Alabama, but it seems that we could get someone decent in on a home and home basis.
Don't have them, but I don't really think that biases me here, since in NY Michigan season tickets would do me little good. As a season ticket holder for the NY Giants, I'd be very annoyed if we had a home game taken away to play in London, so I think at a bare minimum I understand.
The difference, of course, is that there would be no benefit to me or the team from a game in London - it's an absolute loss in exchange for some amorphous NFL growth opportunity. Here, there are a number of significant benefits to the school and program that go beyond that sweet cash money (non-exhaustive list above). If I were a UofM season ticket holder, I'd be happy to do the balancing test and realize that the partial loss to me of an experience (since you would still be able to watch the game) would be worth those benefits. I do it every week - it can even be fun if you close your eyes during turnovers.
Let's say we get a Cal-level program for a home and home, forget the MAC. It's a somewhat notable OOC game, we'd get a home game, potentially expand our footprint in California in some minor way. We'd stand to ruin a season, of course, if we lost to them, which would not be true of a competitve loss to Bama. And you wouldn't get any of the unique benefits from this arrangement. I think we'll all survive a once-a-decade at most, crazy-but-cool neutral site game. Notre Dame seems to get through it somehow, and they play teams like Army in their "lost" home games.
is the handling of the divisions. I think I understand now why they did it (nobody wanted to be in the other division), and I think it's possible the dynamic that led to it had played out before Brandon came in, but the announcement was handled poorly. Instead of trying to sell it [my reaction to "one Game is special, two are better" was the same as yours], which I guess is his first instinct, he should have just explained why having Michigan and Ohio State in the same division was a non-starter. There's a positive way to do it -- just say "Nobody wanted to be in a division without either Michigan or Ohio State."
They really should name them the Bo and Woody divisions, because that's what they are -- the "Michigan" division and the "Ohio State" division.
Ok. It seems most people's main concern is DB selling out UM for the sake of turning a profit. Also I think it is safe to assume that we all want UM to not only win but become dominant in football and competitive in basketball. In order to do this it takes money. College sports is an arms race toward bigger and better facilities.
Now in order to keep pace we as a fan base are going to have to make some concessions. Yes that means some times you get deprived of a home game but think beyond your own personal loss and what it means for UM to be on center stage once again. Teams like Oregon are starting to pull ahead in the all important battle for recruits and it's because they have cash and lots of it.(fuck Nike) I am not suggesting we go all Oregon and whore our selves out but that we be a bit more open minded about how DB goes about turning a buck.
Other teams might need to sell out to turn a profit on their athletic department. We do not. The University of Michigan has meaning beyond a historically successful football team, and it's ridiculous to slightly tarnish that meaning for more money that we don't actually need.
Being "open-minded" leads to idiocy like Ohio State's "throwback" uniforms from last year. The burden of proof should be on anyone suggesting changes to demonstrate that they aren't messing with the University's image.
Of course you take it that far. By no means does open minded mean fuck with the uniforms or the helmet if you choose to take it even further. Michigan indeed sells itself so we do agree on that point. A little score board advertising wouldn't hurt and neither would a little marketing which I am sure would be done with taste. I think DB is beyond the avoid the noid advertising at Dominos.
Comment I responded to vanished.
"-I really don't care what the old, new, or middle-aged guard thinks. "
Then why are you on this board asking your original question? You have to care because you would not have asked about DB in the first place!
I'm still not sure why it's such a great thing to deprive Michigan fans of a home football game in 2012 to line Jerry Jones's pockets.
This, a million times over. I don't get the huge excitement when this was announced. Maybe it's the matchup, which I'm also looking forward to. But giving up a home game for it still has me pissed off.
I don't know a thing about the finance/$ around booking this game against Alabama, but one would assume there is an economic incentive to do so. (Although that recent post w/r/t Bowl games and losing money has me wondering...)
If not, then the pure buzz/ exposure around it is another positive. I mean, this could go back to the "over-branding" argument some have mentioned above, but I still see this as a positive way to get your name out there.
Either way, I'm still excited about it (although I would have preferred a home and home.)
Also, IIRC, DB took responsibility for the practicegate issue. This is obviously an easy step to take (since everyone really knew it couldn't have been his fault) he handled the whole situation well. Really, he's charismatic.
I'm pretty excited about the matchup... I'll probably go (unless ticket availability goes to those with far more Victors Club points than me).
I don't really get the "it's great exposure" thing. Michigan is the winningest program and the grandest tradition in all of college football. We've been kicking ass for 130 years (minus the occasional season or two). We have the largest stadium in the nation, and our team wears (arguably) the most recognized helmet in the sport. College football fans worldwide know all of these things about us. And many recruits know them too, based on some of the TomVH interviews I've read.
So.... how moving the game outside our tradition-laden Big House atmosphere is "good exposure" for our program is just lost on me.
I agree about not leaving the big house... but playing alabama... probably in prime time. Same goes for the ND night game... it's all about switching it up just a little bit.
I like Dave Brandon's style and he won some favor with his Freep criticism but there is no substance to his tenure, yet, in order to make any definitive praise regarding his job performance. As you stated, the departed Sailboat Willie set up the projects discussed. I agree regarding the Alabama game at Cowboy Stadium which would have been miles better as a home and home.
I believe Martin has the legacy of the builder
Michigan Stadium and laid the groundwork for Crisler upgrades and bball practice facility
also new football practice facility
Jerry World is a win
Jury is out on the night game - I think it will go well but I would like to wait to after the game to call it a win. Worried about the golf course parking and if it will be too dark to see anything
But the jumbotron and the lights at the stadium are wins - he also has not put a halo around the stadium so that is another huge win
My understanding is that Dave Brandon, as a regent, flew the other regents to Columbus to give them a tour of their facilities and show them why UM needed to upgrade immediately.
He's more media-friendly than Bill Martin. That, and he likes fireworks.
he did not bash him
just asked why people like him
I think the jury is still out on whether or not he will be successful at UofM (if he were the football coach I am sure someone would have already called for his firing b/c he hasn't fired the football coach - if that is even possible - very circular)
negged into Bolivian
is so wrong it's funny.
It's kind of Chile in here, no?
It's supposed to be funny.
Mike Tyson got the joke.
Whoa, no need to bite his ear off.
I can't hear you.
I believe that this is a Mike Tyson reference. I take my hand off to you
Edit: Slow typing
My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable. You are sagacious.
you should be negged into Bolivian. I think ESPN found it on a map a few years ago, I think it's somewhere in the middle of Africa.
Kenya explain the joke to me?
Never mind, Uruguay.
wow, Jamaican me ill with these puns.
I Haiti it when that happens!
Yeah. I grabbed a Canada good stuff and that really took care of the nausea.
I was doing fine until Iran outta wild Turkey.
Glad to see Europe to the task tonight guys.
Always up for it, but you can't really russian to these things because you might Spain your Poland I hear that hurts more than a break (almost similar to a Bangkok). You have to take your time and use some elbow Greece.
I see what you're doing here and I like it. While we're at it what's so awesome about Brian Cook anyway? Also, is Mike Barwis really the best we can do for strength and conditioning? I think I can take that guy.
I noticed a big difference in RR at the beginning of this season. That could have been because he knew Denard was going to tear it up, but I think it was also due to Brandon's influence. RR just seemed like he had been coached a little with dealing with the media and all things Michigan.
I definitely see that as one of the big potential benefits of Brandon.
Since the Brandon-Rodriguez era has begun, RR has seemed more polished and less flustered in front of the media. RR seems more sure of himself and diverts stupid questions, etc. The lengthy newspaper interview he did before the football season would never have been done during Martin's term.
I think its as simple as (all meant positively):
Bill Martin = Builder, Banker, Finance
Brandon = Public Relations, Growth, Profit
have u not seen the pimp hand?
Žižek would make an awful AD
I don't know. "Welcome to the desert of the real" would have made a great slogan for the 2008 season.
"Enjoy Your Symptom" might have been a great slogan for last season. I did.
It would appear that his current "hype" as you call it, is about his experience and qualifications to be Michigan's AD likely compared and contrasted to the previous two (Goss & Martin).
IN HIS OWN WORDS FROM HIS PRESS CONFERENCE UPON BEING HIRED.....
I love Michigan, loved it as student-athete and have been connected ever since. I was a member of the Board of Regents for 8 years, which was a labor of love. I know the place
Athletics plays an important role in Michigan's profile. It creates excitement, loyalty, connection.
I'm more than a pizza man, I'm a CEO. I've been in the business world 35 years, a university regent for eight years, and been in involved in other governing bodies. I've been a been a student-athlete, donor, and fundraiser at Michigan. I know the talents of athletic department from my connections. I haven't lived a career in athletics specifically, but I bring a unique set of qualifications, interests, and experiences that will help Michigan succeed. I 'm Fortunate to be the one chosen.
My second degree from Michigan was from the Bo School of Leadership. One advantage of not playing is that you can observe and learn. Learned how to select talent from Bo. His assistants went on to be head coaches. He was surrounded with terrific people, recruited athletes on skills and ability, but also character and integrity. Bo taught how to set high expectations/goals. He taught preparation, competing at highest level, intensity. Those lessons translated to my career as a business leader and will come with me as athletic director.
He's a Michigan Man in every sense of the word. He was a regent and a GOOD regent. What a valuable perspective for an AD to have. After losing the Regent spot (short-sighted voters, IMO) Brandon then led the fundraising for the new Mott.
I give you a lot of credit for asking the question in a fairly reasoned way. Often in questions like this the OP has a tone of superiority; suggesting that other readers aren't nearly as wise. Your question seems reasonable even though I have been totally impressed with DB so far.
I think your approach could be a lesson for others who want to post topics that will be clearly unwelcome. You could hold a class on how to avoid the "negbang".
half of them obscene.
Wolvins hoppin see yall don her rell sun.
- Handled the Jihad professionally, while managing to fully and vocally support RR through the whole thing... not an easy tightrope to walk, and he did so very well.
- Following the Jihad, he cleared house (Draper, Van Horn, etc) quickly and quietly, and restored some order to the administrative chaos.
- He has done very well in terms of public relations, especially when compared to Martin. This has showed up in the big things (Jihad press conferences, conference realignment hulabaloo) as well as the small stuff (delivering Dominos Pizza to the media members waiting outside the NCAA hearing room = genius).
- He has shown a willingness to be forward thinking and look for new opportunities (Jerryworld, further work on infrastructure, etc.) without making the traditionalists nervous (OMG MAIZE JERSEYZ).
- He has increased overall pimphandedness of athletic department 3-fold.
- The hair. My god, the hair.
I think GERG may have met his coiffed equal.
it is a good thing that Barwis and DB are on the same team. imagine if they were enemies!
Brandon came into a department lacking in cohesion and confidence. There was an air of disarray and defensiveness surrounding our football program in particular. From the moment he took the job, Brandon has projected composure and confidence. He has said the right things about Michigan being in the wrong (so as not to disrespect the NCAA) but has otherwise avoided acting ashamed and blubbering apologies when the truth is our program was found to be awfully clean. In an environment where many people around Michigan football are panicky and negative he has been cool and upbeat. And whereas Martin often came off as a detached and arrogant dweeb (no disrespect, I do love the buildings), Brandon comes off as someone who is happy, collegial, and engaged. And he has struck the right balance between not entering the job like a bull in a china shop, while also taking some decisive action (such as the personnel changes in compliance you noted).
So, no, we cannot say at this point, 'look at those half dozen signiciant coaching hires he made 5-8 years ago, they seem to have panned out well.' We can say that he has taken hold of the wheel at a time when Martin's sailboat was facing some rough weather, and he has calmed most passengers the **** down and pointed the boat toward sunnier weather. He is a man in control. You are fortunate to call him your dear leader.
and wait this one out.
But, for my two cents, I think that Brandon has inherited a program that has issues. It's storied football program has it's first major violation, the coach is under fire from all sides because the team isn't winning often enough, the basketball program is in a 15 year funk, and the facilities are just now receiving long overdue upgrades.
He has started to consolidate support for our coach, faced off against the NCAA, and reviewed upgrades.
He appears to have a vision for the outcome - a better Michigan Athletic Department.
He also appears to be a take charge guy who faces issues head on and does not mince words.
While the body of his work is yet to be assessed, I think he has given us confidence that every facet of the Athletic Department will be reviewed, assessed and progress will be made. And that's not a bad place to start.
He understands why people buy the "product" (i.e. University of Michigan Athletics). He is also an avid consumer of it, and a former "line worker" (so to speak). This is far and away closer to the "voice of the customer" than Bill Martin could ever aspire.
This is what I was going to post before I read your post. You don't deserve it, I just really wanted to do this.
Allowing Rich to use his computer to fake-chat with the other coaches
I too am a fan of the pizza and the coupons, yo.
Nothing particular to say about whether DB is a good/bad AD, but I must admit the pimp jokes make me LOL
we have expectations for the position, not the player.
i find this to be true in this situation as well. my expectation of an AD is a great AD, fair or not. so far DB has met the expectations i have. each AD is unique in their style and approach, and i am sure that DB will also be learning on the job. he will get better as time goes on.
so far DB has handled adversity well. is this something to be praised, or merely meeting an expectation? i don't know. like anyone else i will not be too quick to judge, i will let things play out.
early returns on DB are that he is a strong leader, and loves michigan. that's a start. i love the alabama game, and i couldn't care less about jerry's pockets. attention is huge, and when people tune in from coast to coast to watch what will be the most hyped of the offseason , not many will be laughing at our expense. there is a value to exposure, to taking a risk, to stepping on to the stage. i don't know what that exact value is, but i can assure you there is one.
... I think you put too little value in the ability of a person to succesfully run 2 major american companies. Valassis was named as 1 of America's best places to work under his leadership and Domino's is obviously enormous. First, he was picked by Bain Capital (lots of smart fuckin dudes) to be CEO. It was voted "Chain of the Year" in 2003, which was Brandon's 3rd? year as CEO, then again in 2010 -- one year after Brandon's retirement and after they instituted his beyond bold product revamp strategy.
I agree his tenure at UM is limited and may not warrant a ton of praise, but the early returns are generally favorable. He has succesfully navigated the sanctions issues with the dignity of a Michigan man, he has dodged the MSM "fire Rich Rod" meme, and he has looked at ways of bringing Michigan to the 21st century. Not all those ways will be popular, but at least he's aware that to be succesful in this day and age, there is a certain level of commercialism that is required.
But, again, my main point is don't undervalue his efforts at his two previous employers. Past performance is a great indicator of future potential, and DB has the track record.
Your last sentence also holds true for Rich. Nice post.
I was going to say the same thing. Must know each other somehow.
Night game, yo!
I laughed when i read Bolivian...lol Oblivion! CMONMAN!!
Brandon did a good job with the Big Ten Divisions. I don't want the game to be twice a year, but i also didn't want Michigan and Ohio State to now decide a BigTen Division title, that would have diminished The Game even more. We've played for BigTen championships in the past and now if we earn the right, we can still play for the conference crown. It was the lesser of two evils.
My reasons would be as follows:
1. Played for Bo. This is extremely important as he is a great bridge between the "old guard" and the "new regime."
2. Is not afraid of change and realizes when a company has become too complacent. Revamped old, stale Domino's by tweaking the product.
3. CEO experience is a little more than "being an empty suit who got rich selling coupons and pizza." We may think that the saboteurs of RR's program are "sharks," but they are nothing compared to what someone on that level of business interacts with every day. To get to CEO level, he had to feast on a lot of sharks who were trying to feast on him.
4. Did I already mention that he played for Bo?
That gains him a lot of credibility with the major M donors (big time old guard) as he was involved in almost all of the major decisions at the university from '98-'06.
And if that grass-eater gets near an AD position anywhere, said school may as well just disband athletics ahead of time to spare themselves the aggravation.
you realize that asking this question was not in the best interest of this blog, M sports or the reaction to your own neg bang health. If the phrase "Thank you sir, may I have another" didn't mean anything to you, it does now. SPANKED by Mgoblog.
It was a legitimate question and he was actually pos banged.
Very well said.
Hell, I expect him to be Kaiser Soze.
Hmm, did he know a guy in a barbershop quartet from Skokie, IL?
She was fat. I mean Orca fat
Can you shed any light on the "hard edge" refrences i keep seeing? WTF do they mean?
You're not missing anything meaningful. I think it stems from a comment RR made at some point in the past, but regardless, it's taken on a life of its own as another transitory MGoBlog popular phrase that shows up in large numbers of comments, whether relevant to the discussion at hand or not.
he means a fun positive attitude going into a top 10 ranked opponent instead of whining and complaining about all of our unending woes that makes you think we are on the edge (no pun intended) of falling into the MAC cellar.
It came from this guy's awesome rant:
This was an easy thread to miss. It was posted from the iPhone app which is bugged and did not appear on the primary MGoBoard page: new topics from the app only appear in the MGoBoard sidebar.
Because he is the Athletic Director of the most prestigous University. PERIOD
Maybe because everything RR is bad at, DB is good at. So RR can just focus on what he does well; coach. That's the main reason I heart DB.
A good post, intended to respectfully question the prevailing opinion in the blog.
It strikes me that there is a middle ground here - Brandon has done well, so far. However, there is much to see yet and he probably doesn't deserve the love he is getting fom this blog.
He has cleaned house in the department. That's good - and fairly easy to do with people you just met. Let's see how he rebuilds the department.
Also, I want to see how he treats the ticket holders with the Jerry Wolrd game. If the per ticket price on the season stays the same and I can get a ticket to the 'Bama game for face value, then fine. If the overall season costs the same, just with one less game, then I will feel that he screwed me out of a game. If being a season ticket holder only gets me the right to buy a ridiculously priced tour package, then I will feel that he only sees me as a source of income - not as an alumus and fan with 20 plus years of season tickets behind me.
If his talk about the "brand" and money is just an example of CEO-speak, then fine. I am worried that he is focusing too much on the money. Michigan is a great University, not a "brand."
Finally - does he retain RR or give into the pressure to get rid of him? Don't assume that he is solid behind RR. (I have heard a fairly solid rumor to the contrary.) Brandon hasn't offered an extension or committed one way or the other. His options are open. If he does make a move, how does he handle it? Does he have a good coach lined up, does he treat Rich Rod with respect? etc.
I hope for the best with him, but I am not ready to call him a great, or even good, AD at this point. Its just too early to tell.
Please expand on your rumor regarding RichRod.
I was sworn to secrecy as to the source. I got it indirectly anyway. You can feel free to disregard it. Frankly, I am not real sure what to do with it. Note that I called it a "rumor" rather than a fact.
My point wasn't that this rumor is true. My point was that while the prevailing wisdom on this board is the Brandon is solidly behind Rich Rod, there are any number of others out there who strongly believe that he is ready to fire him right after the OSU game. Those people even point to the same things that the people here are pointing to: he played for Bo and must hate this spread stuff, he is a bottom line CEO type with the strong pimp hand for underperforming employees, he beleives in the intregrity of the program and hates the NCAA stuff, and so on and so on and so on.
The bottom line for me is that we still don't know enough about this guy. There are a numer of choices in front of him that will impact the program more than any he has made to date. I think we should see how he does over the next year or two and then we will know. Just my opinion.
almost had me going there DREW SHARP...
he will officially be anointed as the chosen one
Adidas sucks. But they pay a lot of money and Nike would not match what Adidas was giving Michigan. Nike kind of left Michigan not the other way around. But would love to see Nike back.
I love how everybody hears these rumors about RR getting fired @ the end of the season. I heard the same thing last yr from all of u so called insiders. LMAO
funny how all these things get out into the open because someone has a big mouth, im pretty sure Brandon wouldnt let the cat out of the bag that easy. Y would u fire a coach who is 7-3 @ this time with a good recruiting class coming in. Brandon has showed nothing but support for RR so if he was to get fired i'd be surprised because it would mean Brandon is a snake. I surely dont think thats the case... GO BLUE
2 words on why Dave Brandon is awesome...
Agreed....this and scheduling Bama are going to go a long way. Though I'm not sure how much of a role he played in either and whether or not these were in the works before he got there.
This will not end well.
I like Brandon and think he's doing a good job.
But one thing that I don't like is that he's joined the Big Ten cabal that fights against a playoff system and supports the dastardly BCS.
Yeah, I know it's about the money, but, businessmen or not, I think they're wrong about that. The playoff money would be even better if it is done right. And most fans want a decent playoff system, players want it and very other sport and even the other football divisions get it.
The worst anti-playoff fool is OSU President Gordon Gee. Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delany is one of the most vocal. OSU AD Gene Smith and Tressel also drank the Kool-Aid.
That's one of the reasons I like Steve Spurrier -- he is outspoken on the need for a playoff.
Brandon works for the university and UM's position on these issues (as well as most BCS school's positions) have been clear for some time. There isn't an AD in America that has the autonomy to go against the grain on a playoff.
they work at TCU and Boise!
Sorry, couldn't pass it up. I agree with your point about Brandon. Sometimes you have to pull the party line.
You forgot Brandon put wings on our helmets, wrote The Victors, coined the term "Michigan Man" and gave The Team, the Team, The Team speech.
DB has been AD for ~9 months. Do you think the tower miraculously sprouted during that time? Bill Martin is responsible for the recent renovations tot he stadium (and has the eastern concourse named after him). I agree DB has been a great hire for AD, but to justify it by crediting him with the press boxes is asinine.