What would you like to see in a O-Line-to-perfomance diary?
We've already seen multiple attempts at Diary entries w/r/t the O-line and it's predictive performance. Yet, people constantly deride the OPs and say "so-and-so would be a metter metric." My question here is how would YOU like an analysis to be performed?
I'd like to see the correllation between O-line age/recruiting stars/experience vs. offensive performance in a regression with conference strength, last year's record, returning 1000 rusher, returning 2000 yard passer, etc.
I believe this can be done. Mathlete and Seth keep pretty good records around here, as well as I'm sure a few others do. I'm personally intending to do a diary which addresses the problems in all the previous O-line diaries, but I'd like to know which problems we'd all like rectified. Otherwise, this is a waste of your and my time.
November 18th, 2013 at 4:32 PM ^
The easiest thing would be to look at OL recruiting from 2009-2011 and it all makes sense. You can even consider 2008 even with Lewan and Schofield because Q Wash is playing at DT.
November 18th, 2013 at 4:49 PM ^
Honestly, this is such a tired and repeated discussion that it isn't worth arguing. Fans using your argument will use the same argument next year and the year after and year after if the O-line sucks just as much in the future. If you can't see why it's the coaches' fault now then you never will.
November 18th, 2013 at 4:53 PM ^
Isn't recruiting and roster management still the coaches' responsibility. I never said the coaches were not to blame.
November 18th, 2013 at 4:58 PM ^
You're blaming a previous staff for the offensive line sucking right now. Funk should coach the running back because I've never seen offensive lineman slip away from pass rushers so quickly.
November 18th, 2013 at 5:14 PM ^
Hoke inherited what he inherited. It doesn't matter why. RR - who I supported until the Gator Bowl - is gone.
November 18th, 2013 at 5:23 PM ^
Agreed. Enough excuses, Hoke et al just need to coach.
November 18th, 2013 at 11:03 PM ^
It's just mindboggling to me that people can't understand cause and effect. As if everything magically resets from time to time, such as when a new head coach is hired. You could downplay it, or claim "Yes, but...", but you can't make a rational argument and simply deny that RR's recruiting has nothing to do with our current problems.
November 18th, 2013 at 4:55 PM ^
I'm not smart enough to answer this question.
November 18th, 2013 at 5:12 PM ^
It would be interesting to try to correlate average star ranking from one of the services to average in-game rushing and passing production. What I think you might be able to do to combine the experience / rating metric and still get a representative number perhaps is take the offensive lineman who started as a unit most often during the season and use the average of those five. It would potentially account for experience as well as players leaving / entering the starting line and it would be interesting to see year-over-year shifts in production move along with it.
November 18th, 2013 at 5:24 PM ^
It really doesn't matter because people have already made up their minds that Al Borges is to blame for whateve results you will find.
November 18th, 2013 at 5:36 PM ^
There's still that one guy out there that thinks it's Lloyd Carr's fault.
November 18th, 2013 at 6:29 PM ^
hold me and tell me it will be ok.
November 18th, 2013 at 6:41 PM ^
pummel hiim ... don't whiff at air.
November 18th, 2013 at 9:26 PM ^
Most of the previous posts have examinted overall offensive production. This makes some sense because offensive lineman accrue few stats on their own. I am interested in how OL experience relates to two areas of offense that OLinemen seem to have the most control over: yards per carry and keeping the QB upright.
I would like to see how the total number of starts by an offensive line correlates with average yards per carry. (I do understand that an unequal distrubution of starts along the line might reduce the significance of the findings). It would informative to know if there is a significant drop off between the #1 and #2 RB (an all star running back could skew the results). I assume there is a negative correlation between the experience of an Oline and the number of sacks and QB hurries they allow. I would like to know how strongly Oline experience affects pass protection.
November 18th, 2013 at 9:50 PM ^
was dealt with in Question 2 of:
http://mgoblog.com/diaries/experience-and-success-offensive-line-part-i…
November 18th, 2013 at 11:05 PM ^