What Will It Take For You To Get Back On Board?

I want DB gone no matter what. 

I want Hoke gone, too, but if he somehow literally wins the rest of his games, I'll change my mind.  That would be an unbelievably good coaching job, considering the levels of discontent and turmoil right now and the two tough rivalry road games ahead.  That's almost certainly not going to happen, so it's not really relevant, but there's still a scenario in which I'd like to see him return.  I'm done with DB.

Didn't we just pose this question yesterday? Are we as a board showing propensity to change our minds on a day-to-day basis? I think we need McGary on the sideline holding up "win the game" signs. It was enough for the bball team, right?

Blow out MSU and OSU each by 30. 

Fire Funk

Fire Fred Jackson

Firm handshake to Greg Mattison

Move Montgomery to recruiting coord role

Hire an actual special teams coord

Have an asst coach trained on "game theory" type stuff Hoke is just not smart enough to learn

Man Darker Blue I dont know if this is a Feelingspost, a What If post or a blend of the two.  It sorta straddles both lines and is awfully similar to the "What if we win out" thread just down a few slots.

I just know this is NOT going to happen so why we are spending 30 seconds wondering about it amazes me.  Better to "wonder" what if Bo came back to life and brought with him the fountain of youth and two years of bonus NCAA elegibilty.  Would you rather he gave the extra years and youth to Ricky Leach or Tom Brady and who would his Offense Coordinator be?

Everyone hates change, but how do you argue with the fact that they've gotten progressively worse every year? Sometimes you have to face facts.

I am not sure you understand the concept of "serious question." I think you need to seriously question your grip on reality. 

The fact that people keep raising these "serious questions" is further evidence that fandom is a religion, not a rational endeavor. 

If Brandon apologizes for being an egotistical asshole and actually commits to changing his behavior. Hoke takes more blame for the Shane situation by way of public apology to Shane and his family, and donates a good chunk of change to a head trauma/concussion resarch institution. And then we win out. 

Then I will forgive. 

Go home Darker Blue your drunk

 

 

 

 

1. Remove Dave Brandon

2. Remove Brady Hoke

3. Remove Dynamic Pricing

4. Hire competent coach

 

sorry.  It's just not happening for me anymore.  The wins it would take to salvage the season (kind of) are a pipe dream, so it's over AFAIC. 

The Hat Trick:

 

1. Brandon gone
2. Hoke gone
3. Jim Harbaugh hired

It will take bringing in a coach who doesn't act smug and shit all over the fans.

Seriously.  We're all depressed.  Hoke is tanking the program.  Would it kill him to give us a sliver of hope?  "Jabrill is hurt a little bit, but he's on board and will be back in a few weeks" would even go a long way.

Being able to afford watching my alma mater play would be nice.

Consistent, competitive, coherent play. Covering WRs.

If Michigan does what K State did last year and finished 7-5 after a 2-4 start, you could build a case to retain Hoke under a new AD and with some staff changes.

RichRod era all i wanted to see was progress and as long as there was that i was fine with him getting another year/chance, but then the PSU game in 2010 happened... after a bye week the D looked no different and we let a walkon QB shread us... at that point I officially done with him and a change needed to happen...

if hoke and co. can show that this team is making progress and getting better all around and somehow pulls out a winning seasn i might be able to get back on board... but if they continue to lose to bad teams he has to go...

I think I've seen too many problems and too little progress to be supportive of Hoke as head coach anymore.

At this point there's really nothing he can do.

 

There's your answer. When the going gets tough most will abandon ship. Hoke is done.

and after a competent AD is chosen, then a quality non MAC level Head coach with a solid track record is hired.  AND the S & C staff as well as position coaches all gone

One million dollars?

Never. We have almost 3.5 years of information on which to make a decision. The first year was very good, although I think anyone looking at it objectively would say that the team got lucky on several occasions. Years two and three got worse, and this year is a downright disaster. When you look at every year, there is a consistent thread - Hoke does not have a handle on the job, demands dinosaur style of play, and the team gets progressively worse.

Everyone here thinks Hoke is a goner. With DB at the helm, I just have a deep-seeded fear that Hoke will still be the coach next year. If that happens, I don't know what I'll do.

Coaches who know how to coach football

Athletic director who knows how to direct athletics

hot chicks

pancakes

A bottle of 18 year old Jameson

Of course Beilein will say that. He won't publicly say he doesn't support any M coach.

While I want a new AD and coach, I never got off board. I will always watch M football.

Less branding!

 

With Brandon...nothing. Like he says, his personality is to the best of his ability, and he has to change that. Unfortunately, you can't just change that. He could literally drop ticket prices 30% and I'd still want him gone...he so wrongly personifies the worst stereotype of "Michigan arrogance", and has such disdain for any and all criticism that it makes me sick. 

WIth Hoke? There's many mitigating factors, but at a bare minimum he has to make a bowl game (win that game) and win one of @MSU and @OSU, and then survive the objective evaluation from the new AD. And no more bad losses. So...he basically has to win out. Two losses, it's extremely difficult to see him not get fired...one more loss, and it's still leaning towards firing him but it depends on how the team looks in the other games and how bad of a loss it is. I'd give him about a 1% chance to remain as Michigan's head coach next year.

 

I genuinely believe Beilein is behind Hoke and supporting him, but even if he wasn't, do you think he'd ever dare say that to the media? His job is as secure as it gets right now; why would he do anything to jeopardize that.

For me to get back on board, only one thing has to happen. Its quite simple, but I know it won't happen.

Win out. Don't necessarily need a Big Ten title since that's largely out of his hands right now, but Hoke needs to win out. That means going on the road to MSU and OSU and winning both of them. I don't care if he loses and is competitive; if he loses, he's out. If we're blown out by MSU, consider giving Hoke his walking papers by Monday morning.

Time to start holding Hoke accountable to his own standards. He preaches nonstop about getting to a 43rd Big Ten title, and we're not even close to sniffing Indianapolis.

I have and will always be on board with this team, and the university. However, I am NOT on board with Hoke or Brandon. There is a difference. Even if this team were to win out, win the B1G, and the bowl game, I think it would be despite Hoke, not because of him.

Upvoted for negging yourself.

Winning out wouldn't change my mind. Hokes teams have had so many blatant problems that its no longer opinion, it's a fact. He's not the coach we want him to be. Having an OK offensive showing against Rutgers has people here excited. That's how bad it is right now. Hoke winning out would be the biggest fluke in sports history. I would love to win out, but Hoke needs to go either way.

I'm on board with michigan football forever. I hope they win every game and in order to do that we need a new coaching staff. In order to get a coaching staff that will win we need a new athletic director. We can start by relieving the current AD of his position and take it from there.