tackling dummies....or starting CB/DB in the case of Kovacs.
What role do walk-ons play in Michigan's football program?
Came on as a walk on 2 years ago but has earned a scholarship since
Jordan Kovacs, a former walk-on, is slated to start at safety, his third season as a starter.
Doesn't Nebraska carry a ton of walk-ons on their roster, thus making it more likely that some of them will turn out to be impact players?
to other schools just for a chance to wear Scarlet & Cream.
There's a saying, "Notre Dame only had one Rudy but Nebraska gets a new crop of Rudys every season".
I chortled at "Scarlet & Cream." Is it really scarlet? Isn't it just red?
makes me laugh every time
...........wait, just kidding, no mascots at UM, see I pick up on these things hanging around this board.
i wouldnt object but one walking around and truly respresenting the university, i'll pass.
Haha, me too. Whenever I think about changing it, I stare at it for a minute and I just can't bring myself to do it. If someone wants to make a shirt out of it, that'd be pretty awesome, and I'd probably buy a few.
is our official team color's name.A bright red with a tad of orange.
Cream, on the other hand....think they kept the name but always looked like plain old white to me.
Reminds me of some of the discussions I've read on this board about Maize :)
That's fair. I just looked up some pictures for comparison, and the NU and OSU colors are closer than I thought they were.
Indiana's colors are Crimson and Cream. But it just looks red and white to me.
I think it's hard to tell with their current sports uniforms, but other university outlets do go for an actual crimson and cream color scheme. iub.edu should give a good example.
I chortled at "Scarlet & Cream." Is it really scarlet? Isn't it just red?
Why do we call our secondary color "maize" and not just yellow? Lots of schools do this.
I thought they were "the big red" not the big scarlet?
Our alma mater is "The Yellow and Blue," not "The Maize and Blue." There are lots of logical inconsistences when it comes to sports teams' color names.
Or why two terms for the school colors?
The Yellow and Blue was written in 1889 and was later adopted in the 1890s as the alma mater. http://bentley.umich.edu/athdept/football/umosu/umsongs.htm
The University adopted "maize and blue" as its official academic colors in 1867 and has been trying to figure out what hues that actually means ever since. http://www.techexchange.com/library/The%20University%20of%20Michigan%20Reveals%20Its%20True%20Colors.pdf
Agreed. But, maize used to be darker, less yellowy as I'm sure you know.
"Big Red" has a nicer ring to it than "Big Scarlet"
Rodriguez made a big effort to expand the walk-on program and Hoke looks to be continuing it (he brought in a number of big linemen this year). It has never really been a tool to find "Main St. players" in the past as far as I know (we've had our share of walk-ons pop up over the years, but never a program like at Nebraska for finding/developing them), but at this point I wouldn't be surprised to see one or two of the young big guys (Nathan Brink is getting loads of practice hype on the d-line, FWIW) contributing as juniors/seniors.
Glasgow, Dallas Williams, Yerden, Mateus, Brink, and Gunderson (and probably somebody I missed) are all young guys with legit size who may or may not get a shot to contribute down the road.
Don't forget Seth Broekhuizen who was teammates with Brink at Holland Christian.
Also Will Heininger is a guy who provides good depth at the De position. He was hurt last year, but in the year before he was able to come in to give guys rest.
I also think the preferred positions to pursue walkons for are both lines. Often a category where kids mature late and/or can be taught the position. I will be surprised if none of the offensive linemen you list see the field. It's an interesting group and for the most part they had other opportunities (don't know about what options there were for Yerden, the champion weightlifter, who has not even been playing football for long.)
They're seeing what Brink is doing in camp and that will only motivate them. I think Brink is going to get a shot. When you hear them talking about his solid technique and how he knows how to use his hands, that's unusual talk about a walkon. He maybe could use a few more pounds, but 6-5, 263 is not small. And I like that Mattison is saying he's looking for the best group of 17-18 guys he can rotate out there, scholarship or walkon doesn't matter, and then he'll go from there.
Great way to grow linemen. I like the way this staff thinks about the game and how best to play it, and they are trying to build the team accordingly.
No matter if they are 5 star recruit or a Walk On.
Yes, I think you will see at least 3 walk on's contribute this year. Maybe 4 if a walk on kicker does well.
Maybe someone can correct me but isn't Nebraska provide the template for the preferred walk-on technique nationally? I know Michigan has recently put more stock into the preferred walk-ons, but believe Nebraska was one of the first to do it with regularity.
Tony Anderson is also considered a "walk on" at CB (probably in the two-deep), although he is at Michigan on an academic scholarship.
He was offered a scholarship, but was able to turn it down because of his academic scholarship. So you can put him in the same boat as Kovaks, as far as walk-ons turned scholarship players.
Yes, we watched the same video on Wednesday morning. Congrats to both of us.
I always thought that if a student athlete was eligible for and was recieving an academic scholarship, that he counts toward the scholarship cap on their team. Otherwise what is stopping schools from just offering a bunch of "Academic Scholarships" to students who just so happen to be very very good at sports? I remember hearing that it was a private scholarship not affiliated with the school, so perhaps that's how he got around this.
I think that's right. Since the school isn't giving him any money, they don't have to count him as an athletic scholarship.
I would imagine that any private scholarships would require direct approval from the NCAA to make sure that it's legitimate. I'm not implying that Tony Anderson's situation is one of these cases because it sounds like his is a nationally reknowned competetive scholarship, but what's stopping a booster from setting up an "academic scholarship fund?" Sounds like it could get very dicey very quickly if not monitered strictly (like everything else).
The only thing standing between our secondary and total DOOM.
See Griese, Brian.
It seems like in our program walk ons are usually depth players. There are notable exceptions (Kovacs) but for the most part our walk ons are giants who may not have been good enough in high school to garner any big offers.
I know this is the case for Gunderson at least, played against him in high school (totally beat him, GO CC!) and he was a MONSTER in terms of size, but he wasn't the greatest. I think our coaching staff is hoping that guys like him and Yerden develop their skills enough to provide depth where needed. You can't make a normal guy into a huge lineman, but you can take a giant of a man and turn him into a decent tackle.
I am told they do a lot of running which seriously brings into question their NCAA mandated roles as "walk-ons".
Don't tell Drew "I am a serious reporter" Sharp.
I think the walk-ons will provide depth and peace of mind in 2013, when it appears the OL will be alarmingly thin if just looking at the scholarship numbers
|56||Joey Burzynski||OL||284||RS FR||Carlsbad, Calif. (Carlsbad)|
|61||Graham Glasgow||OL||314||FR||Aurora, Ill. (Marmion Academy)|
|62||Dallas Williams||OL||314||FR||Ann Arbor, Mich. (Huron)|
|69||Erik Gunderson||OL||312||RS SO||Milan, Mich. (Milan)|
|70||Kristian Mateus||OL||285||RS FR||Ada, Mich. (Forest Hills Central)|
|71||Gary Yerden||OL||333||FR||Kalamazoo, Mich. (Parchment)|
can't believe im the first to point this out... many apologies.
a few years ago a walk-on quarterback by the name of nick sherridan started for the university of michigan wolverines.
No he didn't. That season never happened.
All I remember were ducks and floating baloons that looked just like footballs...and a lot of Ls.
Other walk-ons on the roster who haven't been mentioned yet:
George Morales (Or was he offered a scholarship by Lloyd Carr?)
Jared Van Slyke
Sweet, Ben Fry. Had no idea. Represent. Now there's finally someone to balance out Reid Fragel's GPS Blue Devil presence at Ohio.
Seth Broekhuizen was also a walk-on, was he not?
Morales was offered by Carr ... he had 4.0 coming in ... I think he is on a football scholarship though.
it doesnt matta what the walk-on's think.
John McColgan is exactly one of them. He walk-on Lloyd's last year. He is a 5th yr. senior now and is the only real fullback we have, considering the offenses the last three years were not fullback friendly.
While your question may be taken in the context of "what can this year's walk-ons do for us THIS YEAR?", it should also be noted that walk-ons can become extremely valuable later.
Whatever happened to Baquer Sayed? I didn't see him on this year's roster and it looks like his number has been given away. I know that he wasn't likely to get much playing time but thought that he might be a good depth/ST guy, given that he did turn down a couple of MAC offers to go to Michigan. Anyone know what happened to him?
QB Griese was originally a walk on as was starting MLB and captain Eric Mayes.
Sorry, esteemed guests from Nebraska, but their "tradition" of walk-ons entering school at 195 and leaving as starting 300-pound linemen sorta disappeared when the NCAA started enforcing steroid testing.
It just seemed too fitting to be a case of post hoc ergo propter hoc.
4 scholies this year for walk-ons, 10 in last 4 years.
Alex Henery, walk-on All-American & all time CFB kicker drafted by the Eagles this year and given the starting job...hardly a steroid case
Looks like the other posters have shown some good walk-on stuff for UM too....I think its the essence of amateur CF
I'm sure he was referring to the 80s and 90s.
I like the Nebraska guy. Seems to have a brain and a sense of humor. Welcome.
And we won't need to tell you about the differences between away games in Ann Arbor vs. Columbus, which some call a city but when you get there you realize it's just strip malls holding hands.
You'll see for yourself. See you in November. If you've never been to Ann Arbor, that's an easy call. If you have been, then you're already planning to come.
And the experts can say all they want that your big rival is going to be Iowa. Fine.
But your big game is going to be us. As Bob Dole would say, "You know it, I know it, the American people know it."
I think UM will contend for Legends this year.
With all due respect for your MSU-ND rivalries, I think UM-NU will replace or equal one of them just because we'll be in a perennial dogfight as Legends champs which means B1G title in the new scheme.
the four players awarded by Nebraska were all SRs and one RS JR. Michigan and everyone else will do the same for extra scholarships at the close of the fall practice.
Difference Nebraska vs. Michigan is that Mich will not make a public announcement. It doesn't do much for those players who took the punishment but came up short. At least that was the stated policy.
Another difference is the academic load these walk-ons are bearing. Nebraska is a different animal.
It's not like these guys are going to go to Nebraska State either. It's walkon or don't play D-1.
Nebraska carries a huge non scholarship roster and has a legacy of 12th man contributions but I don't think they have gotten a significantly greater contribution from these walkons vs. other B1G programs that can not be accounted for in some other way.
The implication that Nebraska is relatively more "serious" or sets the standard is bogus.
don't agree with all of it, but well thought out.
learned a lot about UM's walk-on program from all the replies, thanks to everyone