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I didn't put 3 million bucks for us to cover..
It took me a while to think but...
Defense looked stout on Alabama's first possession.
Seriously, talk about a tease. I came in expecting to lose by 20+, but that got me pretty excited. But it was all down hill from there.
My dog has NO IDEA what happened today.
There are also 1,000,000,000 people in china who have no idea what happened today.
But there are 10,000,000 people in Michigan who do know what happened, and they're pissed off.
Are probably pretty happy.
We are, without question, not the only team Bama is going to give an ass-kicking to this year. We just happened to be the first ones in line.
Other than LSU, I could easily see Bama beating the crap out of every other team on its schedule. No other team aside from LSU comes even close to their talent level on both sides of the ball. As Bama goes through its schedule, this game will be forgotten.
Will MSU and OSU fans trash talk us? Absolutely. I know I would if I were in their position. But they'd do well to remember that we had the balls to put them on our schedule, and there are very, very few teams in the country who could go toe-to-toe with Bama, much less beat them.
If those losers trash talk me I'll just refer them to Michigan's BCS bowl win last year.
Sorry Michigan didn't schedule the powerhouses of miami university and northern iowa.
Just point to MSU's last game against Bama or the fact that OSU has never beaten an SEC team.
That first defensive series got me shit-talkin my TV! Then, yeah....
was good. I thought that was a good sign of things to come then the rest of the game happened.
Norfleet was the only bright spot I can think of right now.
That was the only series Countess played. So when our first-string D was intact, we didn't surrender a first down. Woo!
Seriously though, the loss of Countess was pretty significant. Bama went after Avery mercilessly after that. I hope Blake is okay.
What positives can I take away? Hmmmmm....
1) Hopefully we wont see the Three Stooges x2 officiating any more Michigan games.
2) I will personally ignore any ESPN conversations about the SEC because I am officially tired of listening to them perform fellatio on the SEC.
3) Al Borges has hopefully decided to stop running dive plays on every first down when trailing by 20 in the 2nd half.
4) Our defensive front cant possibly be pushed around that bad again.
5) Taylor Lewan will now start to look like the All-Big Ten first round selection he is predicted to be.
6) The defense might actually absorb the importance of WRAPPING UP when tackling.
7) Should I go on?....Oh yes, Pipkins looked pretty good at the end, and Norfleet was impressive in his 50 kickoff returns Thats really the only thing positive i took from this massacre.
8) Denard has learned his lesson about leading with his throwing shoulder when tackling somebody out of frustration.
9) I now see Herbstreit's true colors showing in how he polished the knobs of anything in crimson. "Hey herbstreit!! You-a like-a the way the dick-a taste-a?"
By the way, I dont know if I have given the impression that I'm not happy, but uh, I'm not happy.
My list of positives:
THE BIGGEST POSITIVE of all is... we just played the defending national champions and quite possibly the best team in all the land. They have NFL talent everywhere. Yes, we got pasted, but if you want to be the best, you have to play the best. We'll learn more from this game than Bama will. We'll be a better team for playing this game.
I'll tell you what positive I take from this:
The coaches and players will go to work right away, fixing problems, finding the right players for the right positions, and getting the best 22 on the field. No better way to get focused than after an utter beat down.
I'll bet the line gets shook up a little. Freshmen will get even longer looks. Our OL was atrocious but I bet it gets straightened out ASAP
Gorgeous Al has now used the same game plan against Bama, MSU, and Iowa. If he doesn't acknowledge that we don't have a deep threat qb, we're screwed. He needs to be more accountable.
"If he [Borges] doesn't acknowledge that we don't have a deep threat qb, we're screwed."
I've tried very hard to maintain my unquestioning loyalty to Borges, but I'm really starting to wonder. I can't for the life of me understand the use of Vincent Smith like we saw tonight. It simply wasn't working and it wasn't going to work. And as you say, Robinson is simply not a reliable deep-threat passer.
I thought Smith actually looked decent (all things considered) when he wasn't losing his footing - there were about three plays where he made a cut and then slipped, allowing the defenders to get to him. He had a nice run on a sweep for a first down; we may want to try that more often.
As for the deep ball, you can't give up on that if you're Borges. That got us our two TDs. I'd probably focus more on Gallon and Gardner as the deep threats over Roundtree, though.
It's not simply the use of Smith ... it was how Smith was used.
Before Smith finally got off the 30+ yard run, he was 10 carries for 9 yards. If memory serves, they all appeared to be really slow-developing plays in the backfield. It appeared like perhaps they were read plays where Robinson's "read" was hesitant, and Smith got the ball a half-tick too late against a defense like Alabama's.
So it's not Smith per se ... it's any running back used in a way that gives a defense like Alabama enough time to see what's coming and shut it down.
The uniformz actually weren't as bad on TV as they were seeing them on that Youtube video, IMO. I won't be buying one by any means, but, after thinking they were hideous, my reaction to them on TV was neutral. Wouldn't wanna see them on a regular basis but as a one-off thing, ok.
As others have said, Norfleet was awesome. Hopefully they get him on the field on offense as an RB or in the slot, that kid is on a whole other level as far as quickness. Wow.
Gallon - best reciever. They need to give him more looks.
I swear to God I think we called a bubble screen.
There was one early.
There were at least 2.
For one brief moment, after our Dline blew up their first series, I believed we would win the game, and I was happy then.
Our makeshift D line got quite a few good stops/sacks against the best Oline in the country. If our linebackers had been a little more ready we wouldve better limited their rush attack. Also, we put up quite a few yards against the best defence in the country on game 1of the season.
Michigan scored more points than most teams that played Alabama these past couple of seasons. I think the team will improve and do well in the B1G. Hopefully, the injured players recover soon because it's on to the next opponent. No use dwelling on this game. The Wolverines will be ready for Alabama in a few years.
1) Gallon - he is the only guy on the team that looked like he belonged playing against BAMA
2) Shane Morris is on the way - football is about QB QB QB QB QB QB!!!
3) Countess is THAT GOOD!!!
4) ummm, yeah BWC I guess
1) #44 is the worst linebacker I have ever seen
2) horrible tackling
3) Denard's "throwing"
4) Vincent Smith's and Rawls running
5) Mr Penalty Taylor Lewan
2) horrible tackling
Kovacs excepted, right? From what I saw, when he was in the neighborhood, he got the job done. I only saw one missed tackle by him ... and I was shocked since it's such a rare thing to see him miss.
I was really talking about the LBs, they were simply terrible
Worst LB ever??
Were you not here for the Obi Ezeh era?
It's important to remember too that Saban did not rebuild Alabama in one year. He went 6-7 his first year and lost to some crappy teams.
Did we get an ass kicking tonight? Absolutely. But Saban has had the benefit of building this team up for 6 years. Hoke is in his 2nd year. Hoke only has one class of "his guys" on the team right now. Building a championship team takes time. I know that we at UM are a rather impatient bunch, but we need to have patience. I have all the confidence in the world in Hoke. He's bringing in top talent, especially on the lines. Football games are won in the trenches. Hoke knows that.
Bottom line: we're going to be just fine. We're in good hands.
The defense. We were still gashed by some relitevely large runs from time to time but we only gave up what? 13 points? in the second half. Happy about that. Desmond Morgan wa just terrible. James Ross is going to take that spot if he doesnt step up.
Devin Gardner is LEGIT, needs to refine his routes but overall hes going to be a monster this year. Roy needs to be in the slot.
We just played better in the second half, just like most games last year. Excited for the rest of the season and Denard didnt look bad to me at all. He the picks are obviously not acceptable but he impressed me still with his throwing motion and how he managed the pocket.
They actually had 10 points in the second half. Three came on a drive of about 15 yards (after we'd turned it over on downs at midfield) and the other seven came on the drive that had two questionable 15-yard penalties called on us. I'll give the guys some credit for hanging in there and playing hard to the end after a first half in which every possible thing went wrong.
Thanks for the correction, couldnt catch the whole game.. had to run too the hospital, my son is on the way.
Well, I suppose that's o.k. then. Now if it were a girl..../s
Haha Thanks, Its going to be rough with me being 17 but I look forward to fatherhood..
I'm not a Penn State fan
Denard has not learned to throw in 4 years although he will still tear up crappy competition. Our defense is both slow and small. It is odd to be both. Devin Gardner can get open, but has trouble catching the ball. Vincent Smith is a third down back. He should never carry it all game long. The season is not in disaster, but this team is a 8-4 type of team. I know all of you thought Hoke was the second comg of Yost, but he has a lot to learn himself.
This is what you thought was important enough to say that you needed to create a new account?
i think you accidentally posted in the wrong thread. there's a haters thread made just for comments like this.
It's hard for me to see much positive from this game. Sure, it takes time to rebuild, and it was probably too much to expect Michigan to win this game, but not too much to expect them to be at least competitive. It wasn't even close. The game was pretty much over in the first quarter.
Some folks may not like me to say this, and I will be more than happy to be proven wrong later in the season, but I just wasn't impressed by Denard Robinson. Yes, he can be electrifying on certain plays, but his passing still isn't where it needs to be and he's a senior now. Teams can just stack the box and make him throw. I think he's a placekeeper until next season.
Devin is a legit WR. There were more than a few times that he gained a step on Millner (who will probably be one of the country's top corners), but Denard just overthrew him.
Will Campbell finally seems to be living up to his potential.
Dennis Norfleet is a ninja.
Ummmmm.... I guess if I had to name the first positive that comes to mind- Bellomy's only pass at least touched a Michigan player before it was intercepted? More seriously, Gallon's cloaking device still works at times and kick returns look improved.
I have some positives and negatives to take away from the game.
First the negatives to get them out of the way:
Borges = Debord 2.0 ex: Run up the middle doesn't work, gains 1-2 yrds per attempt so keep doing it. Quick pass to the flat gets you 6-8 yrds so abandon it.
Denard is not a pocket passer but yet we still try to keep using him as one. Get away from the pro style offense until he leaves, since he has too much talent not to be on the field, and we will be fine. ex: following the receivers before he throws to them resulting in interceptions; overthrows, late throws, under throws, and he had plenty of time in the pocket in this game to show he had what it took to be a pocket passer. I may get negged for saying this but is ok since I'm just giving an honest opinion of what I saw. Denard has plenty of heart and will to win. The coaches need to put him in a position that gives him that opportunity based on his abilities.
No identity on defense or offense. There didn't seem to be any leaders out there getting the team fired up, and working together. Maybe I missed something here, at least I hope so.
Depth, as stated on this site numerous times, reared it's head as players got injured and we didn't have a comparable backup.
As for the positives:
Younger players. There are several young players that look like they are going to be able to contribute early which is great to see and will be benificial as the season progresses to fill in our depth.
We seem to have some decent receivers with Gallon, Gardner, and Roundtree. Just need to get the ball in a position to make a play.
Offensive line is better than anticipated. With the turn over from last year we seem to be ok in that area.
We didn't get to see a field goal but the punting was decent as long as we avoid punting beyond the coverage.
Second half. This is still a second half team like last year. Alabama scored only 10 points I believe in the second half which is an improvement over the first half. The team needs to build off of that.
BAMA girls in cowboy boots with short dressed.
None of us bet 3 million dollars on Michigan to cover the spread
I'm positive ... we need to work on tackling.
- our sacrifices were insufficient to make AMHG go dormant.
- Norfleet is going to have big returns against teams inferior to Alabama.
- all the other teams on our schedule are inferior to Alabama.
- adjusting coverage to Hagerup's booming punts is a good thing.