I know Denard had an AMAZING season, I don't want anyone to interpret this post as anti-Denard, but honestly, Tate looked pretty good when he saw the field (Illinois game anyone?) What happens if Tate has an amazing offseason? Could we have some QB competition in camp next year?
What if Tate has a great offseason?
you should probably seek medical help to get rid of it?
Only if it lasts longer than four hours.
Hopefully you wouldn't feel the need to post about it...?
I would advise a new choice of resting places for your junk.
Now I have to google "chancre" and my husband is sitting next to me, wondering what the hell it is I'm doing.
your junk would make it to the Guinness book. Nails and everything.
this is a jarring image
Back in high school a girl in my class had the last name Shanker. Really unfortunate.
Another girl had the last name Swallows. That's just plain bad luck.
I felt sorry of those two.
I graduated with a girl that had the last name Capinegro. The poor girl.
Fortunately, girls can marry and change their names. Those two probably married guys named Dick and Phuc.
Tomorrow is Saturday, and what the phuc am I going to do all day without Michigan football?
I went to school with a dude named Richard Head. No foolin'
I feel bad because I know he was called 'Dick Head' way to many times...
What if I develop a giant
shanker on my penis by tomorrow morning?
but the medicine the doctor gave me helped clear up my Broekheizen within a week
You'd be dating Justin Boren.
I think you're looking for the French spelling, which is "chancre", or something like that. And if so, you'll have some pesky venerial disease that I'm glad I'm not familiar with.
Via con Dios.
Edit: Badly beaten. Should have kept reading. One too many cervezas. Illinois is losing late.
I think you might be able to get a medical red-shirt for that.
Okay I swear you had something like -230 points two weeks ago, how did you get so many points so quick??
Unless he can magically run a 4.3 or 4.4 40yard dash, I think we have our QB. Denard still has so much room to improve.
We will have three great qbs for next year if that happens.
I suppose it's possible that he becomes a consistently bigger threat than one of the top Heisman contenders, but I wouldn't bet any money on it.
I mean, he had great numbers against the non-conference part of the schedule, but wasn't exactly on fire against the Big 10.
Even ESPN is a little incredulous (he gets 1 5th place vote out of 15 ballots--and it is probably from the guy who didn't vote for Cam Newton at all...a fact that I just made up.)
I'm sorry, even after this season, I look at DR and think...Wildcat! (Which is, seriously, a gimmick offense. That's why teams only run it for a play or two a game, if at all!)
Call me when his Touchdown to Interception ratio is bigger than 2.
So being top 25 in passer rating screams WILDCAT! to you?
How do you figure the wildcat is a gimmick offense?
He's the first QB ever....EVER... in FBS history to gain over 1500 yards rushing
He's the first QB ever...EVER...in all of CFB to throw and pass for over 1500 yards separately. Heck, he set the record higher...first ever to get 1500+ yards rushing and 2000+ yards passing, and he's got a good shot at getting to 2500+ in the bowl game.
He actually got quite a few yards against Big 10 defenses. Of course there was a dropoff...but that will happen when the defenses are better than creampuffs. But even then, the overall dropoff was small.
[EDIT - Adding, the only reasons he's not really in teh Heisman conversation is because (1) of how many legitimate candidates there are, (2) Denard was a turnover machine despite his gaudy yardage stats, and (3) Michigan ended up only at 7-5 on the season]
Call me when you're not a total dipshit.
2300 yards passing w/ 16 TD's out of the wildcat? wow, you're dumb!
pretty fucking good passing numbers for a first year starter no matter what kind of passer you are. He's only going to get better.
The only question I have with regards to Denard is his durability. Even that, however, should be tempered if we can get more production out of our running backs. I'd like to see us get to the point where denard's getting 10-15 designed carries per game, max.
As for Tate, I'm still surprised he hasn't decided to jumped ship for another school. I think he's got a lot of potential as a full-time starter, if he wanted it. I don't see him ever beating Denard out at Michigan, so, more power to him for being true to the team and sticking around.
*Caps lock warning*
then you are stupid or have some color barrier issues....
Clearly the other qb in the OP did not have a bigger ratio...
As of now I think there is a pretty good chance he could be having an offseason someplace else. I would love to see him back but not don't see a likely scenario where that happens. Hope I'm wrong.
That Tate will cement himself as the best backup QB in the nation. He isn't gonig to transfer, and Denard has shown too much skill and leadership to lose the job now.
That Tate stays, and Geaux Blue made a great point in another thread that Tate has potentially earned right to lead his own team elsewhere, and that he may be gone due to his proven ability to lead. As much as it pains me, I agree with that because he's a great player who gives us the best depth at QB, but his maturity since the start of the season as well as his great play on numerous occasions have earned him the right make that call.
have rarely been used together outside of the bedroom
On the whole "bedroom" thing, I like to give credit where credit is due. It's been such an odd time here on the boards lately (have you noticed) so I kind of forgot about some of these finer nuances that could impact our team next year. You made a great point, and awakened my mind from its slumber, thus, +1!
for pointing that out. Thought it said Harbaugh's offense.
Denard's shown he's a good passer, and he has the work ethic to learn any system. I tihnk Denard can run any offense at the D1 level.
Oh boy, all the noticing exposes your genius. Thanks for the opportunity to notice.
We could move Denard to running back OMG!!!!
Hypothetical here so dont get all "Youtube Video of Atomic Bomb" response.
Jim Harbaugh did recruit Tate and Tate is a hell of a passer and can also scramble when needed... Just sayin
aaamichfan how could i be mad at a man with a Fidel Castro/Braylon avatar
and ye shall receive.
...maybe Tate will transfer to Stanford and play for Harbaugh...? Am I right?
that was awesome.
this is all he does now is post animated gifs or youtube videos.
Page 1: 6 pics, 3 comments, 1 repost
Page 2: 3 pics, 7 comments (some of which are game thread)
Page 3: 3 pics, 7 comments
Page 4: 6 pics, 4 comments
yes, by the definition of "majority," 51% of your posts were not pics. 8 out of 20 (40%) is not something to toot your horn over though
This is how the USA and China started World War III. Wait, what?
That's not funny until my Selective Service eligibility expires ... next year.
I think we should try to redshirt Tate next year.
only one year of Devin? If he gets granted his medical...
Denard was the most statistically impressive QB in school history, and the only QB in NCAA history to pass and run for 1500 yards. Until he got hurt the first time, he was hands down the leader for the Heisman trophy. I agree; he's gonna be a backup.
Agreed. Tate has played well at times but personally, I cringe everytime he takes the field. Hands down Denard is the leader of this football team and he gives us the best opportunity to win.
And I'd say, that's good. One less thing.
What if the defense has a great offseason?
and what if our offseason has a great defense?
If Tate has a great off-season, it should be obvious what you do: install the septuple option. We run a wishbone with 2 wideouts: Roundtree and Hemingway/Stonum. Gardner is the QB, Hopkins is at FB. Tate and Denard are the two halfbacks.
Option 1: Give to Hopkins on the dive.
Option 2 and 3: Pitch to Denard (he has run/pass option.)
Option 4 and 5: Pitch to Tate (another run/pass option.)
Option 6: Gardner keeps.
Option 7: Gardner passes.
It's so obvious, I can't believe no one has come up with this before.
into that mix and its deadly! Oh wait...
im sure there will be another QB competition, but denard hasn't even come close to reaching his potential. Tate will get better, but im guessing DG will see his role increase as well.
I have been telling people all year that I truly believe our best bet is Tate at QB and Denard as RB. I think that would open up even more possibilities for this offense.
Tate is obviously no where near the runner as Denard, but has the accuracy Denard lacks in passing the ball. I think this way you could minimize the hits Denard takes on his iso QB draws.
Imagine this.....Tate hands to Denard, and Denard can
b. Pass downfield
c. Pass in the flat
I know our offense is pretty good right now, but it kills me when we drive to the opponent's 20 and turn it over on downs. I'm not saying it's Denard's fault at all. The guy is unreal and I would put more blame on our WR dropping balls, but there have been so many times we could score but Denard didn't have the touch on a pass (OSU, MSU, Iowa games).
What do you guys think?
And then Denard would get injured for the season after one play...get that kid some durability and its a good idea though
is to remove the running back from the backfield and add a potential blocker. doing this would simply making Denard a RB who can throw. it shifts the coverage completely and allows the run to be cheat on while creating contain coverage. if you're going to use Denard as a distraction, you line him up in the slot and put him in motion. this provides the possibility of a lateral, a quick throw, a hand off or a switch of who is qb on the go before the snap.
Agreed. Denard is better as a slot than RB. Also, besides the points you made, I'd rather have Denard taking hits from a smaller DB than a linebacker or even DLineman. He's not the most durable guy.
Finally, as a slot, he has a better chance of making it to the edge. He'd only have a couple guys who could even reach him from the LOS. With some mediocre blocking, he'd be off to the races. At RB, he'd have at least 8 guys who could make a play if any one offensive player misses a block. The odds are just better on the edge.
If Tate is going to hand to Denard, why not just snap to Denard and go from there? Under your scenario Tate becomes a needless conduit. Use that position for an extra blocker.
But this depends on CC. If RR stays, it does not matter what he does.DRob is the starter, However, if JH is the coach I would expect Tate to start. His skills are much better suited for a pro style of play than DRobs'.
if the RF is not equal to the JQ and CSnap flows to the RNN, what DL do we utilize for the FQ?
For the record, I think this is one of the worst things I've ever seen.
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I am drunki and I don't give a shit who negs me...Tater Nutz is a good QB, but this post? I haf to nuke it,
Denard is the man! Tate and him should be on the field together., aaamichfan is awesome
Haven't posted to MGo since the Haloscan days, but I gotta say that these crazy times remind me of the coaching search frenzy of '07--only back then all we had was verbal imagery from fellow posters to allay fears that Lloyd (Carr not Brady) would seek the installation of Brady Hoke once Schiano spurned us.
So, many thanks for the laughs JHackney. Like Dr Strangelove, I too love the bomb. The more I laugh, the less worked up I get. Everything will be fine. This board really melted down last night.
[the air raid siren was a great extra touch today +1 cocktail to you, Sir]
denard is awesome. but he isnt the sovereign king of michigan stadium
i mean...what else would happen?
could rain giraffes.
think tate will transfer at the end of the season.1,Denard is a Qb and a good one at that.2,Devin will have the 2nd spot locked up.But if tate wants to stay then thats fine to.GO BLUE
I gave Tate a little bit of underserved flack because I was naive enough to buy into the Melanie Collins rumor about him leaving. I said something along the lines that "I wouldn't be surprised if he left".
I gained a ton of respect for Tate for sticking it out this year. Enough to even cuss out the guy sitting behind me after he booed Tate when he fumbled againt Illinois. I am no "Michiagn Man", but if I was to try to pin-point examples of "Michigan Men", I would point directly to him, among the rest of the current players and coaches.
it won't change his great accuracy and amazing ability to scrable and make great plays during improbable combacks.
...or his penchant for missig check-downs for a first down and instead try to squeeze throws downfield into double coverage, that 50% of the time I just close my eyes and pray for no int.
...or his un-fixable habit of holding the ball outside his body while he tries to run away from angry D linemen....that often times becomes a fun game of Happy Turf-Ball Challenge.
I'm surprised this hasn't already been posted, but we really need Tate. There is a high, high possibility that Denard gets seriously injured. It is not at all far-fetched for Denard to lead us to 4 - 5 wins, have an injury taking him out for the balance of the season, at which point Tate starts the remaining 6 - 7 games. Unless Denard seriously changes the way he plays, he is going to get killed. We can't presume he will stay healthy all season. I can easily see Tate gambling that even if he doesn't start right away, there's a good probability he will start eventually. That is worth sticking around for.
The greatest improvement Tate made this season--and it was quite significant--was his attitude. Tate's one of my favorite players on the team and I was absolutely heartbroken after the way he acted during/after the UCONN game. He's come a long way and appears as though he's done a lot of growing up this season. While Tate still appears to still have lategame heroics-moxy, we have our 1-a in D-Rob. I've heard from people close to the team that Denard is the "heart" of the team--he's absolutely as nice as he comes off on television, tries to get his teammates into church and is a constant supportive, encouraging voice for his teammates. Denard Robinson is an incredible athlete and has the potential to become the best quarterback in college football if he isn't already, but I think his attitude and presence on the team is what confirms his starting-QB job here at Michigan.
Hard thing to see is the future. Fuzzy and always changing it is. Never know what might happen. Note that Tate had some opportunities this year to play, and if he improves the things he needs to improve, sure he will get more opportunities to play next year.
I agree that it would be difficult for Tate to unseat Denard as the starter, but I think that if he can progress to the point where he is the better option at the position, then he should start. To be honest, all iI care about is wins, and I think the qb competition pushed both Tate and Denard to be better over the course of the year. Therefore I definitely think it's a mistake to write Tate off this offseason (or Gardner for that matter). Seems highly unlikely though given how great Denard was this year.