Home
we had subs it was crazy

Primary links

  • About
    • $upport (lol)
    • Ethics
    • FAQ
    • Privacy Policy
  • Contact
  • MGoStore
  • MGoBoard
    • MGoBoard FAQ
    • Ticket spreadsheet
    • Michigan bar locator
    • Moderator Action Sticky
  • Useful Stuff
    • Depth Chart By Class
    • Unofficial Two Deep
    • 2013 Offer Board
    • Crude Bug Tracking System
    • Third Down Stats
    • Diaries, Windows Live Writer, And You
    • Michigan Future Schedules
    • User-Curated HOF
    • 2013 Recruiting Board
    • Where To Eat In Ann Arbor
Home Forums MGoBoard

Navigation

  • Forums
  • Recent posts

User login

  • Create new account
  • Request new password

MGoElsewhere

  • @MGoBlog (Brian)
  • @aceanbender
  • @TomVH (Tom)
  • RSS Feed
  • iPhone App
  • Facebook profile
  • MGoKindle Store
  • mgo.licio.us
  • Brian @ TSB [Archive]
  • Brian @ AOL [Archive]
  • Sour Salty Bitter Sweet

Michigan Blogs

  • Big House Blog
  • Burgeoning Wolverine Star
  • Genuinely Sarcastic
  • Go Blue Michigan Wolverine
  • Holdin' The Rope
  • MGoFootball
  • MVictors
  • Maize 'n' Blue Nation
  • Maize 'n' Brew
  • Maize And Go Blue
  • Michigan Hockey Net
  • The Blog That Yost Built
  • The Hoover Street Rag
  • The M Block
  • The M Zone
  • The Wolverine Blog
  • Touch The Banner
  • UMGoBlog
  • UMHoops
  • UMTailgate
  • Wolverine Liberation Army

M On The Net

  • mgovideo
  • MGoBlue.com
  • Mike DeSimone
  • Recruiting Planet
  • The Wolverine
  • Go Blue Wolverine
  • Winged Helmet
  • UMGoBlue.com
  • MaizeRage.org
  • Puckhead
  • The M Den
  • True Blue Fan Forum

Big Ten Blogs

  • Illinois
    • A Lion Eye
    • Hail To The Orange
    • Illinois Baseball Report
    • Illinois Loyalty
  • Indiana
    • Inside The Hall
    • The Crimson Quarry
  • Iowa
    • Black Heart, Gold Pants
    • Fight For Iowa
  • Michigan State
    • The Only Colors
  • Minnesota
    • GopherHole.com
    • The Daily Gopher
    • I'm In Love With A Fringe Bowl Team
    • TNABACG
  • Nebraska
    • Big Red Network
    • Corn Nation
    • Husker Mike's Blasphemy
    • Husker Gameday
  • Northwestern
    • Sippin' On Purple
    • Lake The Posts
  • Notre Dame
    • The House Rock Built
    • One Foot Down
  • Ohio State
    • Eleven Warriors
    • Buckeye Commentary
    • Men of the Scarlet and Gray
    • Our Honor Defend
    • The Buckeye Nine
  • Penn State
    • Slow States
    • Black Shoe Diaries
    • Happy Valley Hardball
    • Penn State Clips
    • Linebacker U
    • Nittany White Out
  • Purdue
    • Boiled Sports
    • Hammer and Rails
  • Wisconsin
    • Bruce Ciskie

Links of Note

  • Baseball
    • Big Ten Hardball
    • College Baseball Today
    • The Baseball Zealot
    • The College Baseball Blog
  • Basketball
    • Ken Pomeroy
    • Basketball Prospectus
    • Midmajority
  • College Hockey
    • Chris Heisenberg
    • College Hockey Stats
    • Inside College Hockey
    • Michigan College Hockey
    • Hockey's Future
    • Sioux Sports
    • USCHO
    • Western College Hockey
    • CCHA
      • LSSU Hockey
      • Bronco Hockey Blog
  • Football
    • Smart Football
    • Every Day Should Be Saturday
    • Doctor Saturday
    • CFB Stats
    • Harold Stassen
    • NCAA D-I Stats Page
    • The Wizard Of Odds
  • General
    • Sports Central
  • Local Interest
    • The Ann Arbor Chronicle
    • Arborwiki
    • Arbor Update
    • Teeter Talk
    • Vacuum
  • Teams Of The D
    • Lions
      • Pride of Detroit
      • Fire Millen
    • Pistons
      • Detroit Bad Boys
      • Need4Sheed
    • Tigers
      • Roar Of The Tigers
      • The Detroit Tigers Weblog
      • The Daily Fungo
    • Red Wings
      • On The Wings
      • Behind The Jersey
      • Winging It In Motown
    • Michigan Sports Forum

Archive

  • May 2013 (54)
  • April 2013 (94)
  • March 2013 (104)
  • February 2013 (81)
  • January 2013 (93)
  • December 2012 (74)
  • November 2012 (142)
  • October 2012 (143)
  • September 2012 (107)
  • August 2012 (103)
  •  
  • 1 of 11
  • ››

Get Yer Tickets

Football Display Case

NFL Watches

Follow your favorite team with localtv-satellite.com: Click Here.

Site Search

Diaries

  • New
  • Popular
  • Hot
  • UMich NFL draft history, Part III
    blueheron - 4 days ago
  • More Milford Men Than Michigan Men: Comparing the 11-12 and 12-13 Hockey Teams
    MGoBlueline - 6 days ago
  • Future Non-Conference Opponent Recruiting Watch
    EGD - 1 week ago
  • Way Too Late B1G Men's Basketball Scheduling Idea
    BeileinBuddy - 1 week ago
  • The Blockhams in "HOCKEY HANGOVER"
    Six Zero - 2 weeks ago
  • ‹‹
  • 2 of 4
  • ››
more
  • Using Rivals' Star Ratings To Look At Big Ten Football Recruiting: 2002-2013
    LSAClassOf2000 - 908 views
  • More Milford Men Than Michigan Men: Comparing the 11-12 and 12-13 Hockey Teams
    MGoBlueline - 796 views
  • UMich NFL draft history, Part III
    blueheron - 771 views
  • LIGHT IT UP, AGAIN. WALLPAPER
    jonvalk - 719 views
  • A Cynical Take on Why Expansion May be Dead for the Forseeable Future
    maizeonblueaction - 601 views
  •  
  • 1 of 2
  • ››
more
  • Big Ten Recruiting Rankings 4-30-13
    Ace - 81 comments
  • Using Rivals' Star Ratings To Look At Big Ten Football Recruiting: 2002-2013
    LSAClassOf2000 - 19 comments
  • LIGHT IT UP, AGAIN. WALLPAPER
    jonvalk - 17 comments
  • A Cynical Take on Why Expansion May be Dead for the Forseeable Future
    maizeonblueaction - 17 comments
  • Raiding the B1G-er Big Ten: Recruiting Prospects in Maryland and Rutgers Territory
    The Mathlete - 13 comments
  •  
  • 1 of 2
  • ››
more

MGoBoard

  • New
  • Recent
  • Hot
  • Michigan/Minnesota football - Oct 5 - 330 pm EST
    0 replies
  • Memorial Day Weekend (here for the) posbang thread
    91 replies
  • The Official SIAP Alan Branch Photoshop Thread
    18 replies
  • Which Pay Site Is Best?
    50 replies
  • OT: Star Trek + Dilithium = Esplode…. Esplode clarity
    25 replies
  • OT - ND paid Charlie more than Brian Kelly in 2012
    31 replies
  • Softball SuperRegionals Open Thread
    24 replies
  • OT: ESPN hires Paul Finebaum
    38 replies
  • OT: Red Wings vs Hawks Game 4 Open Thread
    193 replies
  • Mark May Trolls Ohio State Again, Buckeyes Fans Let Him Have It On Twitter
    38 replies
  • Who should replace ND in a long-term series?
    140 replies
  • Baseball Eliminated from B1G
    20 replies
  • Denard, other rookies discuss Star Trek
    56 replies
  • Urbs and his obsession with butts
    53 replies
  • Very OT: The Hangover 3 *Thread May Contain Spoilers*
    62 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 6
  • ››
  • Memorial Day Weekend (here for the) posbang thread
    91 replies
  • Which Pay Site Is Best?
    50 replies
  • The Official SIAP Alan Branch Photoshop Thread
    18 replies
  • Michigan/Minnesota football - Oct 5 - 330 pm EST
    0 replies
  • Mark May Trolls Ohio State Again, Buckeyes Fans Let Him Have It On Twitter
    38 replies
  • Very OT: The Hangover 3 *Thread May Contain Spoilers*
    62 replies
  • Urbs and his obsession with butts
    53 replies
  • OT: ESPN hires Paul Finebaum
    38 replies
  • Who should replace ND in a long-term series?
    140 replies
  • Softball SuperRegionals Open Thread
    24 replies
  • Denard, other rookies discuss Star Trek
    56 replies
  • OT: Star Trek + Dilithium = Esplode…. Esplode clarity
    25 replies
  • 5 star 2013 DT may not be enrolling at Notre Dame
    92 replies
  • OT: Red Wings vs Hawks Game 4 Open Thread
    193 replies
  • OT - Official MGoBaby Thread (you got 'em, we want to see 'em)
    151 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 6
  • ››
  • OT: Red Wings vs Hawks Game 3 Open Thread
    203 replies
  • OT: Red Wings vs Hawks Game 4 Open Thread
    193 replies
  • Scouting Report: Jabrill Peppers
    151 replies
  • OT - Official MGoBaby Thread (you got 'em, we want to see 'em)
    151 replies
  • How much do you really hate ohio?
    145 replies
  • OT? Graduatin' Season. Who had the Worst Commencement Speaker?
    141 replies
  • Who should replace ND in a long-term series?
    140 replies
  • Speight and TomVH on Peppers
    116 replies
  • OT: Red Wings @ Hawks Game 2 Open Thread
    114 replies
  • Prayers for Moore, Oklahoma
    112 replies
  • Alex Bars to Notre Dame
    96 replies
  • 5 star 2013 DT may not be enrolling at Notre Dame
    92 replies
  • Memorial Day Weekend (here for the) posbang thread
    89 replies
  • OT: NBA Draft Lottery
    78 replies
  • ESPN 30 for 30 on the Bad Boys
    77 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 6
  • ››

mgo.licio.us

  • Burke says Michigan can be 'just as good' next year with McGary, Robinson III leading

    yes plz

    0 comments
  • SEC coaches with tiny faces

    I don't think they changed Les at all actually

    0 comments
  • This college baseball team is the best at postgame interviews

    national champs baby

    1 comments
  • Rounding up the latest in NCAA absurdities.

    Patrick Hruby is doing God's work.

    0 comments
  • Cornell wrestler tops Michigan's Trey Burke for Sports Illustrated award | The Detroit News | detroitnews.com

    first comment: "EVERY ATHLETE HAS ASPIRATIONS OF WINNING AND WE HAVE OUR FAVORITES BUT IT IS ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO OTHER STUDENTS ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS, TOO!"

    0 comments
  • Burke hearing he'll go two through six in NBA draft

    stupid Pistons and their refusal to tank properly

    0 comments
  • 2013 NHL Draft Prospect: Andrew Copp

    rundown of Michigan's riser

    0 comments
  • Michigan's key returnee: Glenn Robinson

    needs moar usage

    0 comments
  • Former Arkansas QB Brandon Mitchell transferring to NC State

    so much for that

    0 comments
  • The B1G List: Ranking the State Fossils of the Big Ten

    This list is completely arbitrary and not a genuine analysis of the relative merits of state fossils.

    0 comments
  • Trey Burke turns to inner circle to prepare for NBA draft

    will be michigan's highest pick in a while

    2 comments
  • B1G assistant coach salaries on the rise

    money has to go somewhere

    0 comments
  • Tim Hardaway Jr. is motivated by his critics and doubters, and supremely confident in his ability

    I am only motivated by people who have no opinion about me.

    0 comments
  • Big Ten football procrastinates on parity-based scheduling, and nothing ever changes

    the just released schedules were a flat-out statement that the B10 doesn't believe SOS will matter in playoff selection

    1 comments
  • Michigan's Glenn Robinson III, Mitch McGary ranked inside top 20 on ESPN's 2014 draft board

    but I thought that draft was supposed to be incredibly loaded?

    1 comments
  •  
  • 1 of 2
  • ››
more

What if? Michigan football version

122 posts / 0 new
Login or register to post comments
Last post
August 11th, 2012 at 12:34 PM
#1
mGrowOld
mGrowOld's picture
Joined: 10/04/2010
MGoPoints: 13179
What if? Michigan football version

One of the more interesting books I've read recently was called "What If".  The premise of the book was simple.  Take a significant event from history, say the Battle of Midway, and change the outcome.  Then ask experts and historians to project what likely would've happened (in the case of Midway it was projected the Japanese would've successfully invaded Hawaii and prolonged WWII into the early 50's).

It's a slow day on the board and rainy day here in Cleveland so I started to think about what the Michigan version of "What If" would look like.  Here are a few of mine but I'm sure there are a TON more:

1. What if Bo didn't have a heart attack the night before his first Rose Bowl game?

2. What would the outcome of the 1979 Rose Bowl have been if Charles White's phantom TD had been called correctly?

3. Does Michigan win the National Championship in 88 if Miami doesn't recover not one but TWO onside kicks in the final 5 minutes of the game?

4. What if Moeller doesn't get "Moellered" that night and remains the HC?

5. What if the original Les Miles hire had gone through and he, instead of RR, replaced Lloyd?

6. What if Casteel had come with RR as originally planned?

 

 

 

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
Tags:
  • MGoBoard
  • football

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
August 11th, 2012 at 12:40 PM | What if frogs had wings? (Score:3 Normal)
pkatz
pkatz's picture
Joined: 01/22/2010
MGoPoints: 1314

Then they wouldn't bump their asses when they jumped...

Is it Sept 1 yet?

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 12:44 PM | You guys act like assholes on (Score:-1 Flamebait)
CSree
Joined: 02/21/2012
MGoPoints: 182

You guys act like assholes on this board for no reason. Shut the fuck up, bitch.

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 12:56 PM | Oh dear! We have an angry (Score:5 Normal)
NFG
NFG's picture
Joined: 04/24/2012
MGoPoints: 2160

Oh dear! We have an angry elf.

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:27 PM | he must be one of those south (Score:5 Normal)
russale2012
russale2012's picture
Joined: 11/30/2011
MGoPoints: 2666

he must be one of those south pole elves.....

It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:35 PM | (No subject) (Score:5 Normal)
maizedandconfused
maizedandconfused's picture
Joined: 01/14/2010
MGoPoints: 4200

On the fifth night—possibly the sixth—a breeze arose.
It was cool and dewy.

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 12:58 PM | CSree = internet tough-guy... (Score:-1 Normal)
pkatz
pkatz's picture
Joined: 01/22/2010
MGoPoints: 1314

beware his wrath!

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:27 PM | He may be angry (Score:5 Normal)
RayIsaac91
Joined: 06/25/2009
MGoPoints: -449

He may angry, but he does have a point, specifically in your case.

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:42 PM | Thank you. I could've said it (Score:5 Normal)
CSree
Joined: 02/21/2012
MGoPoints: 182

Thank you. I could've said it without the vulgar language, but it seems like with anything posted on here there is someone who finds a way to be a condescending jerkoff feeding his or her's own ego.

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:48 PM | Quit your crying... (Score:-1 Trolling)
pkatz
pkatz's picture
Joined: 01/22/2010
MGoPoints: 1314

this is an Internet blog in which we are ALL allowed to express our views, whether they are in support of the OP's view or not.

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 6:01 PM | Quit antagonizing. (Score:3 Normal)
TIMMMAAY
TIMMMAAY's picture
Joined: 09/08/2008
MGoPoints: 5954

Quit antagonizing.

not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:09 PM | We have (Score:2 Normal)
bsdohn
Joined: 11/19/2009
MGoPoints: 29

We have an e-thug on our hands...

Never trust an Uncle Sam & Abe Lincoln look-a-like at a car dealership...on stilts. They will kill you.

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:23 PM | welcome to the internet, (Score:2 Normal)
russale2012
russale2012's picture
Joined: 11/30/2011
MGoPoints: 2666

welcome to the internet, where everyone's a tough guy.

It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:37 PM | Actually welcome to the (Score:-1 Trolling)
CSree
Joined: 02/21/2012
MGoPoints: 182

Actually welcome to the winner's circle.

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:30 PM | No, we act like assholes on (Score:4 Normal)
1484
Joined: 06/21/2010
MGoPoints: 14263

No, we act like assholes on this board for a very specific reason - to act like assholes.

Hail.

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 2:56 PM | I ignore the smartasses, most (Score:-1 Overrated)
Beavercreek Blue
Beavercreek Blue's picture
Joined: 09/15/2010
MGoPoints: 227

I ignore the smartasses, most on here only have points because of POS bangs anyway

Gardner for 2 more years

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 7:32 PM | Negged for talking about (Score:3 Normal)
MGoBender
MGoBender's picture
Joined: 03/26/2010
MGoPoints: 5138

Negged for talking about points.

/doubleirony

CoE Class of 2007

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 12:41 PM | (No subject) (Score:5 Normal)
TrueBlue25
TrueBlue25's picture
Joined: 08/28/2010
MGoPoints: 431

"I have three kids and no money. Why can't I have no kids and three money?"

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 12:44 PM | Im so sorry but the immature (Score:5 Normal)
MichiganMan_24_
Joined: 12/31/2008
MGoPoints: 909

Im so sorry but the immature in me is not letting this one go..What if my aunt had balls ? would she be my uncle ?

 

I apologize..What if Shawn Crable doesnt hit Troy Smith late ? Does Michigan win vs OSU ?

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:20 PM | I hate that reasoning. If (Score:5 Normal)
Mlaw2010
Mlaw2010's picture
Joined: 11/10/2008
MGoPoints: 285

I hate that reasoning. If its a penalty, it's a penalty...doesn't matter when it happens during the game. If you want to argue it wasn't a penalty I may listen but saying a red can't make a call late is just sour grapes.

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:48 PM | A week later in the USC-UCLA (Score:5 Normal)
Lionsfan
Lionsfan's picture
Joined: 06/03/2011
MGoPoints: 3909

A week later in the USC-UCLA game the exact same type of play was named "The Hit of the Year". This wasn't a blatant black or white penalty

If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?

StraightDave owes me a steak dinner

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:51 PM | I saw that hit too (Score:5 Normal)
Wolverine In Iowa
Wolverine In Iowa's picture
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 711

I was pissed they didn't call a penalty there, in light of it being called on us.  However, the helmet-to-the-head shot by Crable was definitely a personal foul.

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 3:46 PM | This. (Score:2)
The Barwis Effect
The Barwis Effect's picture
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 2244

This.

"[T]here were a lot of people predicting glorious heights for Rich; mostly the same people who are predicting doom and gloom [for Hoke]. Excuse me if I doubt their prognostication skills." -- M-Wolverine

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 6:38 PM | Haha I was going to mention (Score:1)
TheGeneral
TheGeneral's picture
Joined: 03/10/2012
MGoPoints: 217

Haha I was going to mention that exact play. The reason it was called against us is a new change to how QBs were supposed to be hit. But once the QB scrambled he became a runner and he should have been officiated as such. They got the call right in the USC game, we were not so fortunate.

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:43 PM | Easily one of the stupidest things I've seen on this board (Score:5 Normal)
Wolverine In Iowa
Wolverine In Iowa's picture
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 711

It was clearly a personal foul.  The official made the right call and we paid a heavy price for it.

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 7:49 PM | Yep.  As soon as the hit came (Score:4 Normal)
MGoBender
MGoBender's picture
Joined: 03/26/2010
MGoPoints: 5138

Yep.  As soon as the hit came in I was pretty much like "That's a flag... please no flag, please no flag, please no flag.  Damn, the ref was watching the game."

CoE Class of 2007

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:44 PM | What if poor Bo had managed to will himself (Score:4 Normal)
maizenbluenc
maizenbluenc's picture
Joined: 07/21/2009
MGoPoints: 2678

through that game before passing? What if OSU had not changed the turf out?

I agree, that call doesn't get made today, when refs are used to QBs running and getting hit.

That said, that game was awesome to the last minute, and enough of the breaks just did not go our way.

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:57 PM | What if the game had been in (Score:5 Normal)
denardogasm
Joined: 09/11/2011
MGoPoints: 1861

What if the game had been in Ann Arbor?  Or what if we had another shot on a neutral site?  Oh that's only allowed for SEC teams? Ok then nevermind.

"Michigan Defense" is dominating everything, in every aspect of life. That's a rough definition.

-Craig Roh 10/29/2011

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 9:38 PM | Yeah (Score:3 Normal)
maizenbluenc
maizenbluenc's picture
Joined: 07/21/2009
MGoPoints: 2678

that only happens for the f'ing SEC.

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 12:55 PM | What if Michigan didn't get (Score:-1 Normal)
Professor X
Professor X's picture
Joined: 11/20/2011
MGoPoints: 149

What if Michigan didn't get jobbed in Iowa last season? Are we in the B1G championship? 

What if Denard threw the ball instead of running in the 4th qtr at MSU? 

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:00 PM | If you mean the 4th and 1 (Score:5 Normal)
jmblue
Joined: 11/07/2008
MGoPoints: 28972

If you mean the 4th and 1 play, that was a pass play.  We probably would have been better off  calling a run.

The Iowa outcome didn't ultimately affect the Big Ten standings, siince MSU held the tiebreaker.

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 2:28 PM | yep, my bad about the MSU (Score:-1 Flamebait)
Professor X
Professor X's picture
Joined: 11/20/2011
MGoPoints: 149

yep, my bad about the MSU game. I only remember Narduzzi absolutely read the play call by Denard.  I chose to block out most of that game from my conciousness. 

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 8:03 PM | Jeebus. (Score:1)
clarkiefromcanada
clarkiefromcanada's picture
Joined: 11/21/2008
MGoPoints: 13008

I was screaming for he run call on that play.



Bad times.

If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 12:59 PM |  The “what if” about (Score:5 Normal)
Owl
Owl's picture
Joined: 04/14/2012
MGoPoints: 376

The “what if” about Michigan Football that I most often think about is what if Michigan had followed the lead of Chicago and deemphasized athletics?  

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:59 PM | I wonder the opposite. (Score:1)
justingoblue
justingoblue's picture
Joined: 11/16/2010
MGoPoints: 10884

My senior year in high school I desperately wanted to get into Chicago, and even in the suburbs the name recognition wasn't great. If they had stayed in conference, would my high school have a bunch of kids wearing Maroons hoodies? Probably not because even Northwestern wasn't well represented (and it's about 35 minutes away, UC is double that and smaller), but interesting to think about either way.

Go Blue!

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 5:13 PM | Where fun goes to die? (Score:1)
Smash Lampjaw
Smash Lampjaw's picture
Joined: 11/10/2011
MGoPoints: 753

I could not interest my kids in U of C. Michigan either, unfortunately.

  • Login or register to post comments
August 12th, 2012 at 12:23 PM | But part of the reason (Score:2)
snarling wolverine
Joined: 12/14/2011
MGoPoints: 4702

But part of the reason Northwestern has a small fanbase is that it's historically been terrible.  Chicago actually was a football powerhouse for a long time and might have remained one if it hadn't de-emphasized sports.

 

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:00 PM | Gotta nip this one in the (Score:5 Normal)
denardogasm
Joined: 09/11/2011
MGoPoints: 1861

Gotta nip this one in the bud.  The in-game what ifs don't really work because there's not even any useful way to project what would happen in the remaining time after everyone's mindset changed.  There's an infinite number of possibilities for what could happen and not really a guiding thread.  The long term coaching questions are interesting to think about but personally I just can't talk about RR anymore.  I wonder what might have happened if Woodson had remained at running back, for example,  or if Des had stayed in Ohio, or Woody never punched that player.  What if Tom Brady never had an affair with Lloyd Christmas?

"Michigan Defense" is dominating everything, in every aspect of life. That's a rough definition.

-Craig Roh 10/29/2011

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 2:58 PM | So wait, you mean when I (Score:5 Normal)
UMgradMSUdad
UMgradMSUdad's picture
Joined: 07/02/2011
MGoPoints: 1960

So wait, you mean when I wonder what it would be like if my wife had bigger bewbs, you're telling me she might never had married me in the first place? What's the fun in that?

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:02 PM | Les Miles was NEVER going to (Score:4 Normal)
Logan88
Joined: 01/05/2009
MGoPoints: 2907

Les Miles was NEVER going to be hired by UM. That is a complete fantasy. Bill Martin respected Carr's opinion too much to hire Miles over Carr's objections. I was a premium member of one of the "big" UM sites at the time of the coaching search (aka "The Fiasco") and Miles was never really under serious consideration.

All of the "smoke" about Les Miles to UM was just that: smoke.

We ARE Michigan....COME GET SOME!!!

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:06 PM | Someone didn't read his (Score:-1 Offtopic)
SAvoodoo
SAvoodoo's picture
Joined: 01/10/2010
MGoPoints: 3239

Someone didn't read his HTTV...

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:12 PM | Same thing goes in Coaching Search II (Score:3 Normal)
True Blue Grit
True Blue Grit's picture
Joined: 01/21/2011
MGoPoints: 1219

Brandon was never going to ask Miles to take the job.  The whole thing about the Michigan plane landing in Baton Rouge was completely insignificant and probably a coincidence. 

"You owe it to every man, woman, and child in the State of Michigan to beat the Buckeyes and silence their fans!  Now go out there and make it happen!"

- Bo Schembechler (Result: U-M 22  OSU 0)

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:49 PM | Brandon met with Miles (Score:4 Normal)
maizenbluenc
maizenbluenc's picture
Joined: 07/21/2009
MGoPoints: 2678

They had a few brews, and laughed at MGoBlog and others chasing our tails, and then shook hands: Les leaving with a leveraged up new LSU contract, Dave leaving with a certain subset of the base content that Les did not want the job, which gave Brandon cover to hire Hoke, and an easier path to lining up support behind Brady.

It was a win-win.

  • Login or register to post comments
August 12th, 2012 at 2:04 PM | totally agree with this. it (Score:1)
OverDey
Joined: 08/06/2012
MGoPoints: 154

totally agree with this. it was the balm for the initially resistant over brady’s acceptance, then his “would walk all the way to a2 for this job” personality took over and locked it.

  • Login or register to post comments
August 12th, 2012 at 1:50 PM | ok, say there wasn’t the (Score:1)
OverDey
Joined: 08/06/2012
MGoPoints: 154

ok, say there wasn’t the venom between carr and miles, then what?

  • Login or register to post comments
August 12th, 2012 at 11:41 PM | While, yes, it is true that (Score:1)
Candyman
Joined: 07/30/2012
MGoPoints: 44

While, yes, it is true that Les Miles was never going to get hired as it was in 2007, all the OP would have to do is amend the question to "What if Bo was still alive in 2007, meaning Les Miles was hired?" And yes, Les WOULD have been hired if Bo was still alive at that time, as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow.

It's interesting to think about. That means Mallett, Boren, and Arringston stay. Possibly Manningham too, although I believe he would still declare for the NFL draft regardless. We're probably looking at a typical Lloyd kind of season in 2008, 9-10 wins and a January non-BCS bowl. I think we take Sparty, but the Ohio losing streak probably continues for another year, before we take them in 2009 during a 10-11 win season with a BCS bowl at the end. It's hard to project beyond that without knowing how he recruits, especially at QB(I'm assuming Mallett leaves after his junior year in 2009), but there's no reason to think we wouldn't have played for the National Championship last year against Alabama...setting up a rematch in Dallas to start this season. Boy, that'd be something.

I actually like thinking about "What if?" questions, but apparenly most don't...

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:02 PM | Regarding this one...   3. (Score:5 Normal)
jmblue
Joined: 11/07/2008
MGoPoints: 28972

Regarding this one...

 

3. Does Michigan win the National Championship in 88 if Miami doesn't recover not one but TWO onside kicks in the final 5 minutes of the game?

I don't think so, because Notre Dame won the title that year, and they still would have had a victory over us.

Now if Gilette had made the game-winning FG attempt at ND that year, yes, I think we would have.

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:09 PM | I remembered that unpleasant (Score:4 Normal)
mGrowOld
mGrowOld's picture
Joined: 10/04/2010
MGoPoints: 13179

I remembered that unpleasant detail too late (that ND won it all that year) but damn the end of that Miami game was painful to watch.  Especially when you know the team ran the table after that.

BBall version:

What if Frieder doesnt announce he's leaving until after the tourney?

What if C-Webb doesnt call time out? (yes I know the game wasn't actually played according to the NCAA)

 

 

 

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:16 PM | I don't think the '89 team (Score:5 Normal)
jmblue
Joined: 11/07/2008
MGoPoints: 28972

I don't think the '89 team would have won it all with Frieder at the helm.  He was too high-strung, and his teams always seemed to play tight in the tourney.  They thrived with Fisher's low-key style.

If Webber hadn't called timeout, I think we'd have scored.  That team had always seemed to come through in the clutch.  Jalen probably would have taken the game-tying shot.  Dammit, it still stings.  We let that game get away.

 

 

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:20 PM | We would have had to forfeit (Score:2 Normal)
FrankMurphy
FrankMurphy's picture
Joined: 08/19/2008
MGoPoints: 2499

We would have had to forfeit it though. Perhaps it was best that that we were spared the embarassment of being the only team to have to forfeit an NCAA Championship. I can't imagine what the outcry and controversy would have been like.

  • Login or register to post comments
August 11th, 2012 at 1:31 PM | We may not have.  The NCAA (Score:5 Normal)
jmblue
Joined: 11/07/2008
MGoPoints: 28972

We may not have.  The NCAA has a curious reluctance about stripping national champions of their title.  UNLV's 1990 championship was as ill-gotten as anything, but they found a way to rationalize that one while still punishing UNLV pretty severely.

You could actually make a case that for Webber (as opposed to the other three that took money), Ed Martin qualified as a "family friend," because he befriended Webber when he was pretty young - before high school, IIRC.  If we had won the '93 title, I think the NCAA would have accepted that and only punished us for Taylor/Traylor/Bullock.  The NCAA really doesn't like having vacated titles - they think it hurts their reputation, I guess.  

 

 

  • Login or register to post comments
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • next ›
  • last »
Powered by Pressflow, an open source content management system
Theme provided by Roopletheme; sidebars adapted from Chris Murphy.