What became of Demar Dorsey?

Submitted by beenplumb on

Does anyone happen to know what became of Demar Dorsey? It was announced back in June that he'd ended up in Louisville, but he's listed on neither their depth chart nor roster, for that matter.

Would it be out of the question for him to get his grades in order and transfer to U of M and play as a Junior?

JBE

December 16th, 2010 at 11:04 AM ^

On Magnus's blog I believe it says Unknown. Actually, it says:

 

Demar Dorsey - Cornerback - Lauderdale Lakes, FL

Dorsey committed to Michigan on National Signing Day, but was released from his Letter of Intent when Michigan's admissions department denied him entry.

Current status: Unknown (perhaps enrolling in junior college)

http://touchthebanner.blogspot.com/p/ex-wolverine-encyclopedia.html

In reply to by JBE

Tmuff

December 16th, 2010 at 2:01 PM ^

Did you actually look at the pictures? Drugs, guns, naked women. I'm a pretty young guy and understand what goes on with 18 year olds but if you think Dorsey would've fit in at Michigan you're nuts. These aren't pictures of underage drinking (although thats there as well). Wow, just wow.

JBE

December 16th, 2010 at 2:49 PM ^

Often, when a person is taken out of an environment, such as the one presented in the pictures, and given something to focus on, such as football, they are able to achieve great things.  To make a judgement based on these pictures is, in my opinion, baseless.  Many athletes have left a difficult past behind.  AA could've been just what DD needed.  Also, what exactly does, "fit in at Michigan" mean? 

Tmuff

December 16th, 2010 at 2:55 PM ^

And Demar would've been an outstanding citizen. But when the guy is claiming to be part of gang ( zombie crew) and clearly stoned in pictures easily accessible for the whole world to see it's a risk I wouldn't be willing to take. I'm not trying to start a shitstorm here but after seeing that thread I'm very glad he didn't end up here ( MY opinion).

Erik_in_Dayton

December 16th, 2010 at 3:07 PM ^

Just to clarify: Dorsey himself isn't in any pictures with guns or drugs.  He's just in the picture with the girls, which really isn't any worse than something you could get from a suburban kid's spring break in Cancun...If the pictures establish anything, it's that Dorsey has been taking pictures with, if not hanging out with, the proverbial wrong crowd.  That doesn't necessarily mean that he's doing anything illegal (though, if I was his older brother, I'd obviously tell him him stop associating with those guys). 

Like I said, I'm not trying to argue with you.  I hope we can all agree that well-meaning people can disagree as to whether or not Dorsey should have had the chance to go to Michigan. 

MGoSuck

December 16th, 2010 at 3:12 PM ^

Lol. You're wrong. Friend him on FB. There's pictures of him with weed, coke, and condoms (hey, at least he's practicing safe sex!) in the background. None that I saw with a gun, but I haven't been through all of them and I wouldn't be surprised.

He's obviously doing illegal things (unlike what you say). I don't disagree the kid could use a change of scenery, but I'm glad that change of scenery didn't happen here.

Erik_in_Dayton

December 16th, 2010 at 3:19 PM ^

I apologize for not Facebook-stalking an 18-year-old kid...Even then, being in a room with that stuff "in the background" doesn't mean the stuff is his.  I don't know the exact law in Florida but my guess is that you'd have a hard time establishing possession based on your description of those photos (again, the stuff is "in the background")...He obviously likes to put forth a "gangsta" image, but that doesn't really tell us much about his behavior...Of course, he could kill puppies for fun, but I don't have any reason to believe that. 

719Yoop

December 16th, 2010 at 3:14 PM ^

In his defense he grew up in a terrible part of Florida, you can't tell me that there aren't college football players in the country right now that did these same things. No one ever gave him a chance to escape his surroundings and start fresh in Ann Arbor. Also, half of those pictures aren't even of him. I don't approve of what he's doing but that's usually what happens when you're 18, young, african american, and living in the ghetto. At least he went to football and tried to make something of himself. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNbLkiK0YtE&feature=player_embedded

6tyrone6

December 16th, 2010 at 9:00 PM ^

I didn't get student athlete from any of them, did think drug deals. There is one of him wasted in a M hat and one of someone laying in the corner with lots of cash laying around him, seems like drug issues to me, at the very least POOR JUDGEMENT for posting those photos anywhere where society can see them

Slippery Rock …

December 16th, 2010 at 8:09 PM ^

That was a funny thread, but while browsing around that site, I found this gem.

 

http://www.the-mainboard.com/forum/index.php/topic,79271.0.html

 

It's a post of a kid with Bipolar Disorder (BPD I i take it from the stories) that posts his stream of consciousness while in the middle of a manic episode.  It's pretty entertaining for anyone who is interested.  I learned more from reading that post than from talking to dozens of patients with BPD.  Pretty funny/crazy/fascinating to read a first hand account of whats going through his head while manic.  I didn't make a new thread because it has absolutely nothing to do with UM, but worth a read nonetheless.

Feat of Clay

December 16th, 2010 at 1:46 PM ^

Argh, that is not quite right.  They didn't deny him admission.  He never got an application completed.  Now, had he done so, I don't think they could have found a way to admit him.  But in point of fact, he was never formally "denied."  It's just that the athletic recruitment stopped and he was relieased from his LOI when it became clear that things were not going to work out.

This may seem like nitpicking but in the admissions world, "deny" has a specific meaning.  

jtmc33

December 16th, 2010 at 11:04 AM ^

No idea - but I assume he'll be playing J.C. ball next year and then signing with a BCS caliber program the next year.   Given UM's history with JC's (2 in 10 years), you can probably close the books on DD ever playing for UM.

He'll be at Miss. State, Kansas State, or Oregon State.  They seem to be a haven for JC's.

mackbru

December 16th, 2010 at 11:10 AM ^

If he couldn't cut it at Louisville, I wouldn't hold my breath. Evidently, M was right to deny admission. I'm reminded now of all the people here who were outraged when others dared question why RR recruited the kid. Those people were idiots.

Tha Quiet Storm

December 16th, 2010 at 11:16 AM ^

We weren't (at least I wasn't) objecting to those who questioned the recruitment of Dorsey. We were objecting to the whole media shitstorm created by the badgering of RR at his signing day presser and the complete lack of class shown by those such as Drew Sharp and Dave Birkett in their treatment of Dorsey.

aaamichfan

December 16th, 2010 at 12:47 PM ^

Signing Day 2010 was what I'd call "rock bottom" for the Detroit media.

It still boggles my mind that there was a generally accepted "anything goes" attitude when speaking about a high school student.

mGrowOld

December 16th, 2010 at 1:00 PM ^

"Anything goes" as it relates to the quest by the Detroit media to get RR fired.  High school kids are simply acceptable collateral damage in their minds.

SirJack

December 16th, 2010 at 12:59 PM ^

Okay, but RR seemed completely out of touch with Michigan's academic standards in recruiting Dorsey, who obviously had no business applying to UMich with such grades. And I remember reading that RR had the gall to be upset about this.

Feat of Clay

December 16th, 2010 at 1:52 PM ^

Well, in defense of RR, it may not have been so obvious.  He may have seemed like a borderline kid who had some potential to make the cut.  Remember that he was in a special program to help turn his grades around, etc etc.  I think it was later on in the process that there were red flags in spite of (or, even, related to) the program. 

ChasingRabbits

December 16th, 2010 at 1:53 PM ^

right, because guys like Germany and Marquise Slocum would never be allowed into UM in the past.  I guess Carr was also out of touch with UM's "standards"?  Shoot, Marquise was eventually let in (not sure if it was with or without his F*ck Lion) before he even had the academic standing to play football.  UM allowed him to try to get his academics in order AT UM.   Just another case where people try to use a made up standard that UM used to have before RR showed up.  it is stupidity, hypocracy and general classlessness at its finest.. it is Leaders and Best after all.

STW P. Brabbs

December 16th, 2010 at 1:28 PM ^

But a lot of people were also e-screaming about the priggishness of the admissions department and how awful those pencil-pushers were.  You're scrubbing the history of that little episode a bit here.  The sentiment, "Rodriguez has a right to be furious at the admissions department about this" was pretty prevalent. 

And pretty stupid.

Gone_Fishin

December 16th, 2010 at 12:29 PM ^

I don't think you are really remembering the main issue us "idiots" had.  Most of the outrage was over the lack of communication between the coaching staff and the admissions staff.  The issue I and many others seemed to have was that he was cleared to receive a LOI by more than just the coaching staff.  Then in June he found out he was not going to be accepted here based on an admissions decision. 

http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/dorsey-letter#comment-507503

I understand now just how bad his grades were, but I still think letting a student know he cannot attend a school 3 months before the start of the semester is poor form.

Feat of Clay

December 16th, 2010 at 1:55 PM ^

You know, athletes have some control over this timeline too.  They could get all their materials to the school in a timely fashion and have their answer (or a warning) a lot earlier.

You would not believe how many athletes apply late or have to be badgered to get mateirals in.  Some of them apparently think they don't actually have to go through the admissions process at all, once they've been athletically "recruited."  Maybe at some schools, in fact, that's true.  But at U-M, you will not be admitted until you get everything in--the essays, the recommendations, all that. 

remdog

December 16th, 2010 at 11:34 AM ^

do we have a system which requires an athlete like Dorsey to be a college student?  It's ridiculous.  He should be able to play in some type of minor league system and ultimately the NFL if he is good enough at football.

Sure, an education would be good for him but some people just aren't college material, for whatever reason.

Magnus

December 16th, 2010 at 3:16 PM ^

I don't know, but how many guys have tried?  The vast majority of people are smart enough or disciplined enough to get into some form of college (community college, a four year university, etc.) and extend their playing careers.  I don't feel sorry for people who are too dumb/lazy to make it through high school or attend a community college.  We have free education in the USA, and there's plenty of aid out there for students who want to attend college.

You can't become a teacher without going to college and getting a degree and/or your teaching certification.  I don't see anyone complaining about that.

Jobs require training.  If you can't do the training, then you can't get the job.  The same holds true for thousands of jobs around the country and the world.  Shit happens.  You either sink or you float.

Zone Left

December 16th, 2010 at 4:08 PM ^

The real issue, in my opinion, is that the NFL essentially forces kids to spend three years to attend a university under the guise of being a college student.  It doesn't strike me as right that the NFL is allowed to create an arbitrary age minimum for its employees. 

Dougie Howser didn't have to be 30 to practice medicine, so why couldn't Maurice Clarett play football when there were obviously teams willing to hire him after his Freshman year?

mejunglechop

December 16th, 2010 at 4:24 PM ^

My understanding is that Clarett's suit was thrown out because the age limit was bargained for by the player's association and they weren't a party to the suit. Some day someone is going to challenge it again and they'll have a good case to prevail.

Magnus

December 16th, 2010 at 4:26 PM ^

But all kinds of employers create an age minimum for their employees.  You have to be 35 to be President.  You have to be 18 (I think) to serve alcohol.  You have to have finished law school to be a judge.  As I mentioned above, you have to have a college degree and/or a teaching certificate to be a teacher.  You have to be 16 (or something) to be on "American Idol."

Age limits exist everywhere.  Just because a kid can run really fast or throw a ball doesn't mean he should be able to skip over the training that's required for everyone else.

Also, "Doogie Howser, M.D." was not a documentary.  I'm not sure if you realize that or not.  It was fake, unlike "Family Matters."  That shit was real.