Dantonio. After all every program needs someone to clean the toilets.
Peppers at 10, which seems low.
Dantonio. After all every program needs someone to clean the toilets.
Which wouldn't be a big stretch, since he always looks anyway like he's contemplating a toilet that badly needs to be plunged.
If you were able to take away my bias, Izzo in basketball although he's getting older but you can't argue with.his track record. For football, Meyer is really the only big time candidate. So I guess I'd put up with him and his creepy dreams about recruits as long as there weren't violations and the team arrest record wasn't like it was while he was at Florida.
Hoke and Beilein
something tells me you wouldn't be any fun playing the "would you rather" game.
Since the thread clearly says "besides Beilein", I can only assume you are talking about Beilein's son
Crean is a great recruiter but a bad coach.
And he just seems like a whiny jerk.
He is a jerk. Fired a equipment manager for not bringing enough extra socks to an away game. That equipment manager now works at Indiana State because of that.
Pat Fitzgerald, he has done relatively well with not having much.
I dont think he'd be a great basketball coach, though.
...sure he would.
The B10 sure does have some personalities.
If I had to pick one I'd go with Bo Ryan. Tough guy, does more with less seems like every year.
Yeah, I wonder what Ryan would do at a basketball school like Indiana where he could get a slightly higher level of recruits. He'd be my choice.
Gotta be Todd Lickliter.
"...and my wife keeps calling out my name!"
Bo Ryan but not for the reasons you think
Thad Matta. Under 50 years old with Two Final Fours and 5 B1G titles in 8 years is hard to argue.
Years have not been kind.
Matta has a great record, but I can't help thinking he's a little shady. When Jim O'Brien was there, they didn't recruit all that well, and then all of a sudden Matta got there and they landed Oden, Conley, Cook . . . I would not be shocked in the least if the NCAA eventually came calling.
Has first class facilities and a great coach. They've been a sleeping giant in basketball for longer than Michigan has.
Ohio built those facilities in the late 1990s. Jim O'Brien did not seem to reap the benefits in recruiting. He ended up turning to Eastern Europe for half his roster (people were calling them "Ohio Statavich"). Then Matta came in and presto, every other kid in the Rivals top 20 was giving them a look.
Given that we know basketball recruiting is pretty shady in general, if a guy comes in and instantly is reeling in superstars, it raises a few eyebrows.
You could say the same about Beilein...I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin
No you couldn't. Beilein's first recruiting class consisted of Zack Novak, Stu Douglass and Ben Cronin. Not exactly three McDonald's All Americans.
Beilein's recruiting has only gradually stepped up over time, and even recently, a lot of the star recruits he's landed were originally sleepers - like Burke, Hardaway and Robinson. All three of them were only 3-star guys when they committed to us. Beilein has a great eye for talent and continually finds guys that get overlooked by other schools, and then blow up in the rankings later. McGary is the only real blue-chipper he had to fight other elite programs for, and we had an "in" with him because he's from Novak's hometown.
He is also best friends with GR3 and played with him, so we really had a lot of ins with McGary.
Another in is that he is on record saying he wanted to attend a school that had a big time football program, and we were competing with Duke mainly for his services....not exactly a close competition there.
Beilein took several years to get his recruiting on the current track. Success follows success.
I don't think anyone would say that about Beilein. In fact, when we hired him, there was some worrying that he was too upstanding, and would be reluctant to "play the game" to get the stud recruits.
On what possible grounds? Evidence, please.
Some people have just lost their shit around here today. FIrst we get somebody making fun of Leroy Hoard's serious concussion-related health issues, and now we have somebody making completely unsupported assertions that the coach who was selected to head the NCAA ethics committee for D1 basketball is somehow shady in his recruiting.
I think the Oden/Cook recruitment also coincided with the mess at Indiana Univ. That may (may) have played a part in them ending up in Columbus instead of Bloomington.
Oden/Conley are from Indianapolis, mere miles away from Butler where Matta played/coached. Cook was from Dayton, Ohio...
Don't you try and use logic to rationalize this!
I'd hire a two sport coach with a one purpose mustache. I'd hire Danny Hope.
Will coach for food.
they are rivals but you can not argue with their results. i believe they operate within the rules--if a little in the gray areas.
would stick with beilien, i like his style of operating much better.
Brad Stevens. It's only a matter of time before he's at IU, Ohio, UM, MSU, Purdue right?
I'm not saying that it's going to be anytime soon, but he's only 36. I'd love nothing more than for us to give him whatever he wants in 6 or 7 years when Coach Beilein hangs them up.
I'll bet he ends up at Duke after Coach K. It's one of the best jobs in CBB and it will open before any comparable job in the Big Ten.
I would pee my pants in happiness if this happens.
Coack K says that he'll let the AD pick, but I doubt that he doesn't lobby for one of his assistants.My guess is Jeff Capel.
Chris Collins is my guess.
It would be Johnny Dawkins if it was an ex-player of K's. He's out at Stanford doing a decent job. I don't expect any of the current assistants to be the next HC, no point when you can pick almost any coach in the game. If it was going to be Wojo or Collins, they'd have had to leave to get HC experience somewhere. Additionally, Mike Brey at ND is a former K assistant, and he's having some success there without top 5* talent.
The one thing Duke doesn't want to do is the UNC post Dean Smith experiment, where they go assistant to former assistant disaster to real coach.
A long time before. I hate to say it, but there honestly isn't any comperable program in the B1G.
I agree that Stevens is a great coach, but he won't be available in 6-7 years. He will still be young but a job like Duke/Kentucky/UNC/Kansas is going to open up by 2020 and he would be crazy not to accept that offer (this would be while Beilein is still our coach so Michigan wouldn't even be in the picture). While I think we could pull him from Butler I doubt he is coming to Michigan from a Duke/UK/UNC/Kansas job.
UNC or Duke are likely. I expect Coach K to name a successor from his staff. UNC definitely a possibility, my guess is that they'd go after Smart, style of play matches UNC a little better.
If he goes to any non-Big Ten team my guess is Louisville.
Self is 50 and he's not going anywhere. Calipari is 53.
Just to watch the Sparty meltdown.
Zook. And yes, I know you said basketball. The man can just straight coach
How about a former B1G coach? Steve Alford, former IU player under Knight, had success at Iowa before doing good things out at New Mexico.
If I were coaching a rival Big Ten program? Brian Ellerbe, come on down!
Learned today that Crean's wife is Harbaugh's sister. Does being married to a Michigan Woman make him a Michigan Man?
Brad Stevens will be coaching at Duke in a few years so I won't go there.
I'd have to break the bank for Shaka Smart hoops wise...I'd avoid Crean because he seems like more of a recruiter than x and os guy
Tom Crean's hair stylist.
After being married to Roseanne for awhile, he's really done a great job with IU.
I see more Professor Frink in Tom Crean than Tom Arnold.
Bo Ryan was the one that immediately came to mind. He always coaches up the talent that he gets. I can't recall the last superstar he had, but that is always a tough place for Michigan to go to.
Superstars would be a bit too high to state players he's had but Alando Tucker and Devin Harris were probably his greatest contributions to the NBA. Not to flashy or well known but they are solid players.
Thad Matta, assuming he's not allowed to chew gum.
Fran McCaffery. For a lower-rung job in a brutal conference, he's acquitting himself well. Not exactly young, though.
Bo Ryan. To finish in the top four of the conference for an entire decade straight is incredible. He's done that at a school that doesn't have a great recruiting base.
Mike Rice, obviously.
I'll see you bastards at Google.
Probably Matta, I know the whole eww-Ohio thing, but removing ourselves from that the man has OSU at an elite level.
Of course, I like where we're at with Beilien right now, so, that is moot.
In football, I think Meyer is the only one who would make me think twice about Hoke, and that's purely from on the field results -- two national championships in three years is hard to argue with. However, IMO, that's not worth the SEC-style recruiting practices and his apparent lack of commitment. Other than that, I think Pat Fitzgerald might be a good pick. He's doing some pretty special things at Northwestern (Northwestern!), turning them into a division contender with relatively little talent (especially when compared to other conference members). To me, that suggests he can really coach.
Again, I like Hoke more than both of them, so, moot here as well.
Which B1G hoops coach would you hire?
I always assume everything is football otherwise. Football is king.
I don't disagree, but the title of the website is:
"mgoblog | Michigan football, basketball, hockey, and general what-have-you"
However, I listed both of my picks just to cover all my bases.
John Groce. Realistically, he'd probably come cheaper than Matta and Izzo, and is a coaching star in the making. Given time, I think any team he's able to put in place could have great sustained success.
On the other hand, if instant gratification is more important, Bo Ryan is also a possibility. Granted his "happy" demeanor is reminiscent of a basketball version of Dantonio and his tires are running low on tread, but the guy knows how to make any of his teams, regardless of talent level, competitive in B1G play.
I have managed not to hate Izzo depite being at the school that has never produced a single respectable (serious) fan that I know of. So I guess him.