Mostly alot of defensive backs over the past 10 or so years.
landing spot. will be interesting to see how he does.
Mostly alot of defensive backs over the past 10 or so years.
But I was a slacker in high school and nowhere near talented enough to play D1 football.
I was a slacker...but if coach woulda put me in fourth quarter, we would've been state champions. No doubt. No doubt in my mind.
I bet you $100 that you can't throw that ball over that mountain.
Always seemed like a decent guy. Awesome career. Wound up with the Lions. In one of the Michigan v OSU documentaries he says he told his Dad he wanted to go to Michigan (grew up in Ohio) and his Dad said something like "if you go there, don't come back" so he went to OSU.
I second this. With his charity work and his dedication to his family, he is just a great representative of OSU. He just seems like a truly kind person, which seems rare with a lot of football players. He's up there with Mesko and Omameh in terms of good dude status.
He might actually be my favorite Buckeye, besides Gary Moeller. I don't actually hate him as an announcer either.
My biggest gripe against him is that he didn't have the balls to stand up to his dad and come to Michigan.
The 'balls' to burn a bridge between him and his family, perhaps permanently? That's one way of looking at it, i guess
If going to Michigan would permanently burn a bridge between him and his family, then his family kind of sucks.
I would be pissed if my kids ever went to OSU but I would still love them because they are my kids.
In Bo's Lasting Lessons, did't he say that Spielman came into his office with snuff in his mouth and he kicked him out?
If my kid could get a full ride scholarship to any Big 10 school I would delighted. Sure I'd want it to be Michigan, but if wound up being Ohio, I think I could live with it.
Only Buckeye I ever truly liked was little Antoine Winfield. Great, great player. I'd take him any day.
A corner to take Morgan Trent's spot in 2006 (Justin King)
A safety to take Ryan Mundy's spot in 2006 (Jai Eugene? Can't remember)
But most of all.....hindsight is 20/20 and all but DAMN I wish Harbaugh had come along in 2007. By 2009 he would've blown the doors off the Tressel operation. Easy. He did it to Pete Carroll, a superior coach. We might have even gone to the Rose Bowl and won it, don't even get me started on what he'd do to MSU....
By 2010 if not sooner, Andrew Luck OR Robert Griffin III (assuming Harbaugh was going to recruit both once more, and land one of them) would be the starting Michigan QB. Beats recruiting the last Texan QB, Mallett. Even better, the pass defense wouldn't be ranked #118th or whatever. We'd be going BCS bowling and momentum would be rolling.
And when the QB jumped to the NFL, I assume Gardner wouldve still been a Wolverine, so we'd be good there. The QB pipeline at Michigan would've been going strong. Top prospects dying to play here.
Assuming Harbaugh left to the Niners at some point? Bit of a blow to the Michigan ego but big deal.
We'd have have Brady Hoke and David Shaw to choose from. Best Best Best case scenario, hire Greg Mattison, keep Shaw as OC, and have Hoke running the show. Bam. Dynasty Mode Engaged.
No one over here would even bat an eyelash at the Urban Meyer hire.
He was down to Duke and Michigan if my memory serves correctly. Perhaps had he played for one year, the BBall program would have maintained some buzz and stayed relevant.
Football wise, I'll go waaayyy back and say Tiki and Ronde Barber. Both were very high on UofM but too much home state pressure sent them to UVA. Woodson and Ronde at CB with Tiki at TB would've made the NatChamp team even better for perhaps longer.
Yes. From what I've read and seen, not only was he very talented, he was also a very upstanding student and citizen.
John Gibson could have single handedly saved this season for the hockey team. Maybe not totally, but with him I doubt we're second-to-last place in the CCHA.
Either him or Campbell would be huge right now.
May sound random, but it always bothered me that Jesse Owens went to OSU. What an exceptional athlete, and how defiant he was in the 1936 olympics in Berlin (given the political/global climate). 4 Gold medals in track & field in Germany. Dominance.
Barry Sanders. I know we had Boles and Hoard but it's still Barry Sanders.
That was my pick too. He really would have made that era of Michigan among the greats in college history.
I always thought he would be a great fit at Michigan.
Of course that might be more of a "who do I wish had never coached at Michigan" answer.
I wish all of Charles Woodson's clones had come to MIIIIICH
Derek Sanderson Jeter. Hands down.
Was he really named after that white skates-wearing, skirt-chasing, boozing forward that played for the Bruins during the Bobby Orr days?
Some say yes, Jeter says no. His dad's first name is Sanderson so that seems a more likely source of the name.
You were close...he was a student.
"Magic" Johnson. Johnson was one of the best players ever to play the game, as shown by the fact taht just about every player who played with him played the best basketball of their life WHILE they played with him. He elevated whatever team he was on. Also hurts that he was a Michigan kid who picked Sparty over the Wolverines, no matter the reasons.
Magic Johnson. He almost came to Michigan. It would have been amazing to see showtime in Ann Arbor.
But where are you hearing he almost came to Michigan? Everything I've ever heard said he was always MSU. He was from the Lansing area, a lot of his family went to MSU, and I think he was always a fan growing up. I've never heard anything that he was even seriously considering Michigan.
I'm a little unclear on the history. But I thought he and his track coach were considering coming to Michigan before he went to Ohio State.
had come to Michigan.
Jim Thorpe, and Walter Payton.
Hockey: Steve Yzerman
Football: Toby Gerhart
It almost happened.
Ryan Mallet stayed. Might've made things slightly less painful.
OK, real answer- Bo Jackson. Would be great to claim 'greatest athlete of our time' as our own.
Completely agree, I would have loved to seen him contribute in the 2006 season.
Everybody, kills ...
Hockey: John Gibson. We could use the goaltending help right now.
Me, even though we beat M half the time. (baseball).
Football: Ed Reed.
Basketball: KG or Iverson.
KG didn't play college basketball.
Thanks for the update. I am an alien from anothe rplanet and I just landed. I learned to like Michigan rather quickly and understand the game of basketball and one of the players I enjoy watching is KG, however I missed the part where he didn't go to college. Boy is my face red.
What color is your face normally?
And Iverson never maimed by mob.
Shavodrick Beaver. Just to see all the signs and t-shirts opposing fans came up with.
The 13 year old boy buried not so deeply in my psyche is very disappointed that we never got to witness a Beaver/Cox backfield.
Lew Alcindor's choice was down to U-M and UCLA. I would be interesting to see whether U-M would be supplanted UCLA in the late-1960's and early-1970's if Alcindor had made a different decision.
Not a chance. Google Sam Gilbert and you will understand why the NCAA rule book is as big as it is.
Tom Gholston would have been a dream come true.
Still pissed we turned him away.
Randy (as athlete, not off-field where he was a complete zero) was the best player according to Bobby Bowden and Lou Holtz. Bobby had a ton of great athletes and he said Randy was as athletic as Deion and bigger. Tuman, Streets and Moss would have decimated secondaries.
Barry had the single best season in NCAA history with 2,600 yards rushing, 39 TDs and then 5 TDs in 3 quarters of the bowl game. As opposed to Moss, he is a great guy and all about the team.
Glenn Robinson. We would have won both NCs
Of the guys we were really recruiting, Glenn Robinson Jr and Tim Tebow would have been the most interesting to land. Kareem would have made the biggest impact.
Not because he was a great person or a personal favorite, but because he wanted to come to Michigan but we never offered. So he goes to our rival and is a beast. Not to mention he played a position of great need.
i think you mean Johnathan Hankins...
T E D D G I N N
I don't know if he ever had interest or not (probably not), but a guy I think who would have been great to have is David Robinson. One of the best players ever and a true class act.
I would have liked to seen what RoJo could have done.
just because I would have loved the commentary on the blog. . .
I wish that the talent evaluation was better in the case of Savoy vs. DeSean Jackson
Man I had such high hopes...
Patrick Peterson. No way we would have gotten him, but he is my favorite non-M player in the last 15 years or so.
Basketball, I have to go KG. we were his college of choice I believe. I know this was mentioned, but If somebody could clarify. Did he just choose to forgo college, or did he do so in light of basketball sanctions at Michigan? I was in Middle School then. I don't remember exactly how it happened.
Pretty sure his standardized test performance was sub-optimal, combined with the fact that he wanted to make $$$ (and act like a big bully and back down whenever anyone actually stood up to him).
Thanks for the info. Could anybody in the big ten have stood up to him in that era? I'm trying to remember who was there. Damn. Gotta google now.
Calvin Booth, Brad Miller, and Michaek Finkey. We would have added Garnett to Maurice Taylor and Maceo Bastion
I just meant the crap he gets into after the whistle. He plays a very strong brand of basketball and I would love to have him on my team, even though he rarely sets a pick where he is not reaching or moving.
Ted Ginn jr., took an official visit to Michigan and then Ohio. Who knows, could have possibly made a pipeline with his dad's team if he would have went to Michigan.
wing helment. In baskeball...Baron Davis.
If both Jim Thorpe and Tom Harmon both were UofM legends.... just wow, that'd be cool
Eric Lindros would have been a fun guy to watch at UM. I guess he would have come to Michigan if he had chosen to play NCAA hockey. There was an article in the Daily about it one time where he was close to committing but his hometown OHL team ended up trading for the #1 pick so they could take him. Red is actually the person who gave him the famous double 8's.
I was going to post him, too.
More recently, my pick would've been Nathan Grebe. How does Coach Red let a hobbit-sized dynamo like that leave the state and go to Boston freaking College?
And as someone said earlier, losing USNTDP guys like Jack Campbell and John Gibson REALLY put a hurting on hockey this year.
Yeah it would have been cool to see the impact he had. Like some of the other guys have said about Magic Johnson I kinda wonder how big the program could have been with Lindros playing here. Not that Red has had any trouble buidling a program anyways.
It was between Michigan and MSU for Magic Johnson. He could have won it all at Michigan, and it might have kept MSU's basketball program from ever getting off the ground. That would have been a double-win.
or any other super-quick rb... Dee Hart
Sammy Watkins. Yes, he's still in college, and yes he is doing big things. I think Mich was runner up with him.
I remember reading or hearing Jason Kidd said he would have liked to have played with the Fab Five since he thought they lacked a real point guard. Imagine him feeding all the other players. Jalen did a good job, but JKidd would have ran our team even better, likely to a title. I believe he would have been a freshman when the Fab Five were sophomores, so it might have only been 1 year with Webber. At least it would have made our chances even better during year 3 of that run.
Although you wrote "atheletes that went to other schools" you also mentioned no ground rules, so one thing every UM fan probably thinks, is we wish the Yankees hadn't deprived us one full year of Drew Hensen.
LaDanian Tomlinson and Calvin Johnson.
...I admired Kirk Gibson's work with the Tigers and it always kind of annoyed me that he was a Spartan.
I know what you're saying. My favorite tiger ever and he was a spartan.
Mateen Cleaves, he would have changed the course for two programs over about a decade long span.
Garnett. People thought he was coming to M and would be another insane athlete like Webber (and he was, in his own way).
Tebow is a good one.
Justin King maybe puts us over the top in 2006. Victor Harris? Lots of secondary guys come to mind.
Did we recruit Rocket Ismail? That was before I followed recruiting.
It's selfish but I can't help but wonder what would have happened if some of the teams would have had certain guys who went pro early. Imagine the 93-94 team with Webber. The 92 football team that went 9-0-3 if they'd had Desmond. Drew Henson to the Yankees. Given the weak schedule we played in 2001, hard to see how we still lose to any of Washington, Sparty Bob and Tressel with Henson. Go to the national championship game and get killed by Miami. But still, the whole rivalry dynamic would have changed if Tressel had lost that first game in Ann Arbor. It's too easy to imagine all of the things in the past that could have had positive ripple effects if they had happened differently.
Can't stop wondering if Woodson could have made the difference containing McNabb to start the '98 season. Could we have repeat as NC with Woodson back?
KG. Kevin Garnett was coming to Michigan, if only he was smart enough. Him being at Michigan would've changed a lot on the basketball here at Michigan quicker.
Wow, apparently I'm drunk. My word usage is embarrassing. Haha
The bankroll was from the Timberwolves though. He went straight from high school to the NBA.
we could have had him. Moeller offered the schollie to Ricky Powers instead.
I don't think so.. I remember that Bettis chose ND early on.
You should read his book it's not bad at all.
In his book he said something to the extent that he was pissed that Bo didn't tell him he was retiring but he told Ricky and that was a slap in the face for Bettis. Said that showed him that UM wanted Ricky more than him.
Again I recommend everyone to take a look at his book. It's very interesting to see how his life was from being little to growing up through football and in the NFL.
Bettis also talked about his signing day many years ago. He had multiple hats ready to go and couldn't decide between Michigan and Notre Dame. He was going to go to Michigan, but Bo Schembechler saw another running back the last night in Ohio, and that turned him off.
...Bo said that he always regretted Rick Mirer getting away...he said he didn't even bother recruiting him because he just assumed he'd go to Ann Arbor, having been a Michigan fan since he was a little kid.
Not exactly as bad as Alabama taking Bo Jackson for granted (nothing in the history of recruiting could have been as big of a mistake as that), but proof that Bo could whiff with the best of them at times.
I believe it was Mirer who was the QB Bo was visiting when the game where Dierdorf went off how Harbaugh was the first U-M QB to do this and that in the NFL was on and Bo had to turn red faced and tell the kid something like "you'll be the next one, son!" Didn't get him.
That's what I've always heard.
I read the account fron the "BO" autobiography written w/ Albom, but I admit that was over 20 years ago the last time I cracked that book.
Grbac had a much better NFL career than Mirer, anyway.
Tim Tebow, who had us and Florida.
It certainly would have been interesting to have had Tim Tebow as a junior in the first year of Rich Rod. Might have changed the trajectory of the entire era/program.
Joey Hudepohl. Let's see if anyone has the desire to Google him and figure out why he was supposed to be a Michigan Man. What a shame he went elsewhere.
Why should he have been a Michigan Man? Beacuse Urban Meyer coahed at his HS after he graduated (I know it isn't this, but I saw his name in the list of notable people associated with St. Xavier).
Joe Hudepohl was the only thing standing in the way of Michigan becoming the 1993 NCAA Men's Swimming Champions?
FUN FACT ALERT: I know him. Nice guy. He was my dad's neighbor in Tampa, and they'd always bet a bottle of wine per Steelers/Bengals game (him from Cincy, my dad from PGH).
/Cool story, bro.
I'd take Forrest Gump over Shane "Footsteps" Falco anyday.
Inigo Montoya. Man we would have ruled the fencing world with that one!
I can think of one guy that would have changed the course of history if he had decided to come to Michigan. He is one of the least respected athletes ever on this board, and I pretty much agree with the sentiment that he is an idiot, but Terrelle Pryor is that guy. He would have easily gotten us to a bowl game in 2008. He would have been a monster in RichRod's offense, and a significant upgrade over Sheridan and Threet would have easily won us the NW and Utah games. I don't have a problem saying that we would have beaten Toledo or Purdue with an upgrade to the QB position either. Even against MSU, we were leading 21-14 before the defense tanked in the fourth quarter. A remotely competent QB maybe wins us that one. That makes us 7-5 or 8-4 in RichRod's first year, with a good recruiting class coming in and a lot of positive vibes. The guys who don't buy in are marginalized, not validated. Recruits don't listen to the guys who are negatively recruiting against RichRod.
The next year, an upgrade at the QB spot in both experience and athleticism probably gives us wins over Iowa and MSU. Possibly an upset against OSU, since we lost that game because Tate turned it over five times.
I'm discounting the off-the-field issues, of course, because RichRod isn't a cheater like Tressel, and probably wouldn't be letting his guys drive "loaner" cars.
Other than Pryor, I can't think of a single big-time recruit who may have changed the course of history for us -- a guy who would have been such a hugely important upgrade at a postion of need that he would have changed the outcomes of multiple games within a season at a turning point in our history.
I don't miss the RichRod years in the slightest, and I generally think that he sucked at Michigan, but I have never stopped thinking about whether he could have succeeded if just one or two bounces had gone his way.
And have thought so since day 1. I don't think you can assume he would've gotten into the same trouble in Ann Arbor...
Do we still recruit Denard, or does he not want to be a back up for that many years? Or does he come anyway and at least redshirt?
If Pryor is just a knucklehead and we do get into trouble, is it contained to him and is he dismissed and we're with a back-up? Does he draw some other kids into it? Do we get into enough trouble that Rich is fire for REAL infractions? (Rather than staying with the nonsense infractions we got, but enough real embarrassment he has to go. He wouldn't get the show cause because he opulent lie about it and cover it up). Then are we a GERG interim program in 2011? How awful is that? Harbaugh is already in the NFL by 2012...do we end up with Hoke anyway, but a year later, actually disgraced, and no Denard?
I might not agree with it all, but this is a terrific post.
Basketball: The Big Dog. No one could have matched a front line of Howard, Webber, and Robinson. Seriously would have been the college equivalent of Parrish, Mchale, Bird.
Football: Peyton Manning. There would have been no "split" of the 97 championship. Period.
There also would have been no Woodson Heisman. Although, it would've been a Peyton Heisman instead.
Troll the World!
He wanted to come here. His dad flipped out on him said he had to go to OS. Rest is history, or whatever.
Probably would've come here if the timing had worked out but he ended up being a 1st rounder for Ohio. No good
...but my sister, who went to Notre Dame for women's basketball over Michigan. Wouldn't have to ignore her for one week during the fall (or for all football season this year). Also, getting tickets and Michigan swag would've been a lot easier/cheaper.
Drew Henson in 2001. All the regular season losses that year were close, and mostly on the offense. If he had stuck around, we probably could have run the table and lost to Miami in the NC game.
Willie Wilson of the Kansas City Royals was a fabulous 3-sport athlete who was recruited very heavily by Bo Schembechler and would have come to Michigan if he hadn't decided to take advantage of his position as a first-round pick out of high school in the '74 baseball draft. Think Braylon Edwards, who could also throw a strike from left field.
The Golden Bear, for a non football choice. Troy Smith might be my take for football. Could've put us in the 2007 NC game (not having him on the other side of the field would've probably meant the win vs Ohio), and possibly meant a win in that NC game. Imagine the difference a NC win in recent memory, against Urban Meyer no less, would mean for Michigan in terms of recruiting now.
Jim Harbaugh, amending the topic slightly to coaches. I can't express how much I wish we had hired Harbaugh instead of Rich Rod. Turns both Stanford and San Fran around. Guy knows how to compete and coach. Bare cupboard or no, Harbaugh plus Mallet would'nt have done worse than 8-4, and would've been BCS bound in 2008, and NC contenders by 2010.
I love Hoke, but would trade him for Harbaugh plus no RichRod fiasco six days a week, and twice on Sunday.
Bo Jackson with outta doubt...he would of helped in 2 sports. Best athlete ever period.
Seantrel Henderson anyone?
After seeing.g just how game changing and explosive he can be, I would've liked to have seen DeAnthony Thomas play for us.