Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria.
WFNI in Indianapolis Reporting ND, SU, RU, and MD to Big Ten.
WFNI is now in a 2-hour John Wooden special... seriously? WTF?
You're killing me smalls.
RAY, when somebody asks if you're a god, you say YES!
Maryland and Syracuse? Wow. Just wow. Our basketball conference just got much tougher.
Rutgers is worse than both, in every sport.
Rutgers did not beat Syracuse head-to-head in ANY sport this year...
Including Syracuse 31, Rutgers 13.
I wish I could +1 you a lot more than just once for this one.
i'm cracking up with the Airplane reference. And you couldn't have picked a better one...
Kevin Bacon is totally Missouri there. That is supposing this report to have any validity which I give maybe 20%.
So do we still get them ther huskers
This is like the tape in The Ring. I won't believe it until I see it. Unfortunately, when I see it, I will probably die.
This just made me spit take.
Completely agree. Please let this all be true.
that may be ending soon!!!! [My wife on the other hand is not going to be the happiest camper in suburban Maryland.]
It would force RCN to offer the Big 10 Network and I could finally leave Comcast. I can't overstate how much I hate Comcast.
USC picked a great time to end a multi-year investigation.
Talk about scooping up some TV sets, eh? Counting DC, that's a huge number of additional cable tv sets.
I am still taking a wait-and-see approach with this all, but man it sure is interesting. I don't necessarily like a 16 team conference, but $$ rules the day.
I'd rather have Missouri than Rutgers or Cuse. Their football team will be good this year.
I have a feeling that their whoring has turned off the Big Ten.
And it doesn't help to be a crappy school.
Missouri is just as crappy as Nebraska.
Why take two crappy schools when there's one that you actually want?
Why take two above average girls when their hot friend you were after at first runs off with another guy? How do I begin to explain this...
I'm sure Delany will keep that short term thinking in mind, considering they likely wouldn't join the league for another two years or so...
If true, IMO this would be one of the worst expansion scenarios we've seen. 3 of those teams (and remember I'm talking about football since that is really all this matters regarding expansion) are mired in mediocrity with no real signs of escaping. The fourth, ND, is also mediocre, but with obvious brand equity and the chance with a new coach to become good again. Much better than the other three IMO? Nebraska, Missouri, UT (of course) A&M, Pitt, Colorado, even (yes I said it) WVA. Either better football programs, more prestige and name value, or both.
I would rather see Kansas, Missouri, Syracuse/Pitt join, basketball is big too! Then wink at Notre Dame!
you are also incorrect. Without football, there would not even be a discussion about expansion. And there would be no B10 network either. There is only one sport that commands ratings and makes big money, and that is football. It is really the only sport that matters in these discussions.
expansion, but practically, there are 3 seasons of sports for 9 months of the year, and a conference like the Big 10 is still more profitable than and at least as powerful as the SEC (currently a better football conference) in part because it doesn't suck in basketball (like the SEC).
Football is the clear lynchpin, but basketball and other sports play a complementary role.
In any event, success is cyclical (see, e.g., the University of Michigan). I wouldn't bet that Missouri football will necessarily be better than Syracuse or Maryland in 5 years.
Just imagine the varsity LAX team in Michigan's future though! It would have immediate clout with a schedule including those teams.
Still, I hate it. The thought of Rutgers makes me want to puke almost as much as watching someone else blow chunks.
I'd love to see a varsity Michigan lax team go to the Carrier Dome. Or the 'Cuse coming into Ann Arbor.
Missouri has aboverage football and basketball programs. In athletics, they would be a decent addition/
And they're still the worst school academically under consideration... over 25 spots lower than such academic powerhouses as Michigan State.
Rutgers is just flat out horrible and have any of you been to the city of Syracuse? Its basically the Gary of New York.
Dude, I dunno about you guys, but I'm freaking psyched for this. At this point, I feel like the 45 spinster who someone finally proposed to - I dont care who it is, I just want it.
that report is false. Why? Because Charlie Sheen is my avatar. That's why.
That might do it.
Rutgers helped themselves out today with the #1 overall APR, in my opinion. Beating out a bunch of private schools is pretty good.
What happens to the ACC? Who do they get to replace Maryland?
Probably in that order.
1. They're in Delaware.
2. Great bans - just ask them!
3. Similar academics to majority of ACC
5. Used to getting their asses handed to them every time they play.
But if you line up the schools in the ACC and the Big Ten, the ACC will be higher ranked in 1-9. 10 is tied. The Big Ten wins spot 11. And FSU? Well... the ACC doesn't acknowledge them when it comes to academics.
Don't their helmets have....wings?
1. They're in Delaware.
2. Great band - just ask them!
3. Similar academics to majority of ACC
5. Used to getting their asses handed to them every time they play.
If this stuff is all true, the SEC may take some ACC teams and the ACC then takes Big East leftovers.
I hope the NHL gets in on this craziness and gets rid of 4 to 6 teams. Is that possible??
sports day I can remember in a long time. And I havent' seen any sports yet. Just 20 minutes until the cooling calm of baseball.
the Blackhawks are going claim the Stanley Cup tonight as well.
the flyers are going to beat the Hawks by 2 goals and head back to Chicago and steal game 7 to keep Chicago's cupless streak intact.
Shoot this is an incredible development if proven true. Like many here I'm not a big fan of adding Rutgers, but I could see adding Syracuse and Maryland would actually be welcomed.
If we could just add ND and either Syracuse or Maryland on top of Nebraska, I like where we're going with this!
do we get to vacate any wins they had in the ACC/B10 challenge and look to see if we actually get a win for the conference? Better yet, give us a win in any games they played in and then re-evaluate.
This is not as crazy as it sounds! I've seen Penn State games from the 80's on the B10s greatest games!
Before today, I would have said there's as much chance of Maryland leaving the ACC as Tom Izzo leaving EL. I don't know what the hell to think any more. The world is flying apart at the seams.
Maryland hates the ACC because of how centered it is on tobacco road.
They'd leave for a ham sandwich.
This came out of nowhere.
..in my underpants, singing "Whaaaaat the fuck oh, what the fuck-is-going-on!!! ?" over and over in my best operatic solo.
No, wait. That is what I want to do.
I thought the point of conferences was to have teams in close proximity of each other play and get those local rivalries going and allow fans to travel to the games. This is all thrown away so some stuffed shirts can dig their snouts even deeper into the cash troft. I hate it. Notre Dame, ok makes sense. Syracuse, Rutgers and Maryland don't belong in a midwest conference. Same goes for the Pac 10 expansion, While we're at it B.C. has no business in the ACC and South Florida, DePaul,Cincinnati, and Louisville shouldn't be in the Big East. Oh well,..can't fight the system.
Penn State, Syracuse, Rutgers, Maryland in a pod. I find this very erotic.
living in the North East. However, there is no way MD is leaving the ACC and all of their respective basketball rivalries.
I think they'll leave for the right price, but their rivalry with Duke is epic and would be hard to just drop. Of course, they could simply schedule it as an ongoing OOC game, which would ratchet up excitement for the meeting every year. I agree that it would be tough for MD to leave the ACC, but no impossible if it could line the AD's pockets.
Duke treats Maryland like Michigan treats Michigan State. Duke does not give a shit about Maryland and it pisses Maryland off to no end.
That's true, but the big difference is that Maryland has actually won some meaningful games against Duke in the past, and would still be considered a true "rival" to Duke. Heck, this year they had the same ACC record as Duke and split the conference title. That is far more than MSU has accomplished recently.
I'm pretty sure MaizeandblueDevil will agree with me, Duke alums/fans don't give a shit about Maryland. Actually, it's more like Michigan/PSU except let's pretend PSU won the 2005 game against Michigan.
Duke enjoys beating Maryland, but yeah. Not. A. Rival.
Why wouldn't you just write what WFNI was reporting in the headline? Do you really need to write a "teaser" headline?
What should I title my threads?
Please make your thread titles as informative as possible: "Justin Feagin" is bad. "Justin Feagin leaving the team?" is good.
Fair enough, I like being a tease though. Changed the title.
I like the shake up, its sure to make things very interesting not just in football but the majority of the other sports as well
Why would we question it?
next best thing to tv
I'm doing everything I can to find other independent sources.
But people need to take it with a grain of salt. That includes me; Lord knows I'm guilty of it too..
(My original post came off as dickish, so my bad. I had an American Bulldog barking at me to go outside, and I cut my thought short lest I have to clean up a pond of dog pee)>
Didn't take it as such at all. I'm just interested in verifying it.
On the Syracuse side, it's all quiet on the western front. No one is saying anything at all.
I don't know what this means, but in my opinion Syracuse has played this whole thing professionally. But it's gotten eerily quiet. There was a rumor earlier today before any of this "report" that said that SU had been communicated a conditional offer contingent upon Notre Dame accepting.
This makes sense for a number of reasons: 1) Rutgers leaving does nothing to the Big East, 2) Syracuse leaving will break up the Big East, 3) Syracuse has been a good partner, including the additional 10-year series they've signed, and 4) ND's administration sees SU as an academic counterpart more than any other candidate.
That said, who knows. No one on the hill is saying anything right now, and the Syracuse Post-Standard has been pretty silent on speculation and reporting anything, which I believe is upon direction from SU. If we do hear something to confirm, it's probably not coming from Syracuse.
... it's Nebraska first, then everyone else...
Seriously, football-wise, Nebraska is better than all these schools put together...
But the story may get Notre Dame off of his high horse and make a decision. Note the story was sourced from Indiana.
It's Delany playing Swarbrick like a drum.
then expansion will be purely about the money. That's what's happening with the Pac 10 and it's happening here.
Nebraska: Tradition, people will watch.
ND: National following. A lot of haters watch, too.
Rutgers + Syracuse: NYC (at least that's what they're hoping)
All the schools are going to make a lot of money from this.
Yes, but it's about Academic money even more so. Do you have any idea what research dollars the Big10 + those schools will command? It will dwarf the athletic dollars.
This is the guy that first posted that the Big10 was going after Nebraska, and he also allegedly spurred an outburst from Delany due to his initial posting, which was all deleted.
They may be able to leave Baylor behind, but Texas Tech, not a chance.
If the Pac10 says NO to Texas Tech, then what?
and what happens if TAMU and Tech then agree to join the SEC?
Why would the SEC take Tech without Texas? Would we?
We won't take Tech, period. The Big Ten requires academics, the SEC doesn't.
Because taking Tech and TAMU (and let's say Oklahoma) pretty much ties Texas' hands and forces them into your conference. I'm just saying there are so many potential endgames that putting your faith in a single unlikely one baffles me.
Brodie get on 'Scorn to discuss this.
Please please please let this be true. I want to see some winged helmets in here.
Every day there is some new dramatic stuff about this, can they just get on with this
If we feel that we need to get to 16 teams and be ahead of the curve I think those are the best teams. Add ND, and secure a strong east coast presence with 3 teams on the Atlantic. Those teams would help us with the big city markets of Baltimore, D.C., New York, etc...
I don't understand why people are so excited to have these schools in our football conference. Syracuse sucks. Maryland sucks. Rutgers is decent once in awhile. Notre Dame is mediocre-to-pretty good.
It makes basketball better, sure.
But . . . eh.
Like joeyb said, I'll only believe any of this stuff when I see it. All these random reports are making me bored with the process.
I am excited because Rutgers, Syracuse, and Maryland are all reasonable driving distance from me, so I could potentially be looking at four live Michigan games a year (those three plus my annual pilgrimage to Ann Arbor). So, that's the reason for my excitement. From a big picture standpoint, I'm with you.
Yeah, I mean, it's closer for me, too. I'd especially be happy if this means that Comcast will make a deal with the BTN. I'm just not excited about seeing most of these teams play football any more than I'm forced to already.
Just curious...what would be your ideal outcome with the the schools?
Honestly, I'd be happy if the Big Ten could lure in Notre Dame. That's it. A sixteen-team conference is ridiculous, whether it's the Big Ten or the Pac-10 or the SEC expanding to that size.
Just received this in my email. This year's SU football poster was just released. Coincidence? I think not. (ok, enough of my orange-colored glasses)