Week Eleven Polls Are Out

What a joke teams like Toledo and Louisiana Tech ranked ahead of Michigan. Makes no sense.

It's a little frustrating that we're unranked when our three losses are to the #1 team (at  a neutral site), #4 team (on the road) and #18 team (on the road and when our QB got hurt).  Though I suppose the converse is that we may not have any truly good wins.

May I ask why in the hell is Oklahoma State and Texas even ranked. Who have they beaten and more importantly who have they played? (I know Ok State played at K-State last night )

How can Texas Tech be ranked above us when they haven't beaten a currently ranked team and their three loses are worse than ours? Also the Nebraska loss has an asterisk.

We would have quality wins if Purdue and Sparty didn't become let downs. I see a lot of teams with good records in the poll but without playing quality opponents. It seems the voters get lazy and look at record too much.

Maybe we deserve to be ranked ahead of some of the teams, but let's face it we aren't that good this year. I mean, it's not like we're clamoring for a spot in the top 5. 

WE DESERVE TO BE RANKED 23!!! I DEMAND AN INVESTIGATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Miss St. should be now where near the top 25. Rutgers I don't think should be ranked either.

The presence of 5 teams from the Pac 12 in the poll is an ABSOLUTE TRAVESTY. That conference is legitimately the worst conference in the country, below the MAC even. USC is CRIMINALLY OVERRANKED. Their best win is a horrible Washington team.. How are they still in the polls despite two consecutive losses, one of which to an Arizona team that got blown out by UCLA. UCLA!!! WHAT???

Any teams that have beaten USC so far have no legitimacy besides Oregon. And now UCLA is ranked JUST for beating Arizona by a lot? What? Their best win was against Nebraska, which, btw, was played AT UCLA AT night, which equates to playing at like 3 AM for the Nebraska players... huge home team advantage. Now Stanford... Stanford's only win? A criminally overranked USC team. I can't believe how ridiculous the hype is regarding the Pac 12, all because voters are. I have been saying this same thing for weeks and weeks and it seems like I'm the only one to be taking notice of this.

People continue to say "The Big 10 might be the worst conference", but WHY? Can anyone explain it to me? Because we had a ton of coaching changes over the offseason and needed some time to find an identity? The Big 10 in its current state is far far far better than how it was when we started the season. (And I will say that the SEC is much better this year than it has been in the recent past.. scary!)

My conference order:

SEC > Big 12 > Big 10 > ACC > Pac 12 > Big East

And don't try to argue with me by saying "The Pac 12 has 5 ranked teams so they're better". No, rankings are completely and utterly false and based off of preseason polls which are based on hype and hype only.

Sparty should be ranked in the top 5. They legit only lost one game this season and the other 4 they lost to the black and white stripped shirt guys.



-LaBia Bell

I can live with that.

Polls don't matter. The goal is to win the B1G Championship and beat ohio.

This Is MICHIGAN.

I can point out the many flaws; OSU #5, Toledo and Usc still ranked and others, but using our record, SOS and this season as defense of Michigan being ranked is pure homerism and ignoring the reality.

OSU is undefeated.  They haven't really beaten anyone significant, but they ARE undefeated.

Toledo has won seven in a row or more, meh ok.

USC, they're ranked because they are USC.

Please don't compare us to USC.  Did you watch the game last night?  They have more size and team speed than we do, they're receivers are faster than our dbs and our offensive line isn't exactly blowing open holes for Fitz.

Do you think for a second that we could have scored 51 on Oregon???  Let alone holding them to 62???  That would have been the ugliest game in UM history if we were to play Oregon right now.

We shouldn't be ranked because we have beaten no one.  Many others shouldn't be either, but if we win out, we'll get a better bowl game than the bottom half of the polls.  Take care of business and let's see what happens.

I'd be pretty upset with not being ranked with our only losses to #1, #4 and #18

How did   Clemson claw their way back in to the top 10?

Interesting to read the wide range of opinions on the polls on this board. Unsurprisingly, most of you feel that UM is not ranked high enough, I don't really have an opinion one way or the other. All I know is you lost 3 games to three tough teams, but at the same time, you can't really point to a statement win against a good team. So, I'm curious, both polls have UM ranked at #28, if you disagree with that ranking, where would YOU rank UM?

Geeze you guys should listen to yourselves. All I keep hearing is this team doesn't deserve to be ranked and that team doesn't deserved to be ranked. You guys do realize there are 25 spots that have to be filled even if the teams aren't really that great?

Sagarin predictor ratings of teams in the AP poll but not in the Sagarin top 25:

• 34. Mississippi State
• 46. Rutgers
• 48. Louisville
• 49. Louisiana Tech
• 73. Toledo

Top 25 teams in the Sagarin predictor not in the AP poll:

• 13. Arizona State
• 18. Oklahoma State
• 19. BYU
• 21. Utah State
• 23. Michigan

Utah is #26, just to add to the regional flavoring here.

There does seem to be a systematic overvaluing of Big East and to a lesser extent the south in the human polls at the expense of the west (Toledo's part of this too, since their only supposedly big win was against Cincinnati) . We'll get a small interregional test when Utah State goes to La Tech in a couple of weeks; otherwise we pretty much have to wait for the bowls because it's conference play from here on out.

How is USC ranked with a 6-3 record and two losses in a row?

Barkley and those receivers would pick our secondary apart over 60 minutes.  Remember, the main reason our pass defense is ranked so high is because the only team that could pass well against us was Alabama.  The rest of the teams we played couldn't complete a pass downfield because of accuracy, not spectacular D on our part.

Our secondary doesn't have the speed to keep up with big, fast wideouts.  Against Nebraska, they had at least five opportunities to complete big pass plays, Martinez is simply a poor throwing Qb, that's why those passes weren't completed.  Go look at the replay, those guys were wide open.

We're not bad on pass defense, we play in a conference with bad throwing QBs.  All the QBs we have faced are in the bottom if not bottom 25% of all passers in the country.  AS passing teams, Purdue is 69th, MSU 78th, Nebraska 80th, ND 90th and Minnesota 94th,

Our pass offense is 108 and Illinois, Umass and Air Force are worse.

Bottom line, we're not as good as we look.

to watch people get all up in arms about the polls.  Go back and look at the polls from previous years and you'll that the final polls end up looking like this: 

undefeated teams

one loss teams

two loss teams

three loss teams

Now there might be a 2 loss team ahead of one or two one loss teams and a 3 loss team ahead of a couple of 2 loss teams but that's how the polls end up.  It's not rocket science and it's probably not right but that's how the polls end up.  Your conference's reputation is made in the non-conference slate (and in the case of the SEC from dominating the BCS title game).