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This week in Alabama (With RDT)

First off, I'd like to touch upon the Ty Isaac snafu. That absolutely positively blew my mind, and it also shocked people that are close to him. I've learned that in recruiting, gorgeous women in Los Angeles and California weather (and snoop dog apparently) can make even the safest bets unsure. I haven't been truly surprised in recruiting in a long time, and that really surprised me.

What can I say guys? In recruiting, you trust the guys who know the area and the coaches, but in the end, even they can be surprised. But hey, on to bigger and better things, eh? I've returned to you at the turn of the tide (no pun intended), to help you escape the boredom of no recruiting news. I've decided to do a weekly post, touching on football issues and recruiting. It will start on Monday, but I'll talk about a few things tonight.

  • Henry Poggi- There is a sense around campus that he's leaning towards Bama. It confuses me however, to be completely honest. It sounds like the kid wants to play defensive tackle, and the likely commitment of Maurice Hurst damages Michigan's chances. That being said, the confusing part is that Saban&company are recruiting Henry as a Tight End. So a reasonable assumption, is that If he goes to Bama, then the commitment of Hurst to Michigan had little to nothing to do with it. I think Michigan would still hold a spot for Poggi regardless of this weekends activities. People who I talk to say Saban's professional mentality and toughness, have really impacted Henry's dad. This seems to have overcome potential clashes of personality and culture at Alabama that he is digesting.
  • Derrick Green- I do believe Michigan has a legit shot here. Had they concentrated on Green harder from the get go, you guys would probably be his outright leader. For what it's worth, I don't believe he'll stay on the eastern seaboard, giving Michigan a real shot. I think he's every bit as talented as Ty Isaac, with perhaps better open field running ability, and better vision. Urban wants this kid BAD, but Green's parents aren't enthused with "the worst state ever" not we're they impressed by the recent "transgressions".
  • Laquon Treadwell- I really wish I had some info on him, but with his school not being a traditional power, his HS coaches haven't developed relationships with a lot of other coaches, so it's hard to hear things. For what it's worth, if Michigan isn't the favorite for him after all this, I don't know who the hell it would be.

Come back Monday, and I'll delve into the prep for the game in September, local reaction, and humorous things that only happen in Alabama.

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June 1st, 2012 at 11:03 PM | Sorry for the format (Score:4 Normal)
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Im on my I-phone. If one of the mods could help with that, I'd be greatly obliged.

Roll Tide.

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June 1st, 2012 at 11:28 PM | Done (Score:4 Normal)
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and done.

They no longer call me Bisbiño

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June 2nd, 2012 at 11:48 AM | could you help.... (Score:1 Overrated)
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with some of the typos also?  Not a grammar queen but it took me a couple of takes to figure out what he was saying, e.g. not we're = nor were

All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.

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June 1st, 2012 at 11:06 PM | Good insights. Thanks for (Score:1)
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Good insights. Thanks for taking the time to share the information. On Isaac: USC has a very barren depth chart at RB right now too. That's very rare for a program of that stature.

"because character wins in life and character wins on the football field....."  1-11-11

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June 2nd, 2012 at 12:49 PM | But I always wonder about the (Score:2)
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But I always wonder about the depth chart argument when it comes to positions like RBs and QBs where there can really only be 1 person per position on the field at any time.  I mean, with linemen, you have 4-5 spots where you could conceivably fit in, so kids may think "hey, I might not line up at RT, but I could always slip over to guard if needed."  But with RBs, you are going to have to compete for playing time regardless, and even though USC's depth is less than expected at that position, it's not like you will become the starting RB by default. 

Maybe nothing more than he likes CA, but I just never understood the depth chart argument for kids.

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June 1st, 2012 at 11:09 PM | GREAT NEWS!!!  If RDT thinks (Score:5 Normal)
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GREAT NEWS!!!  If RDT thinks Poggi is going to Bama, he's a lock for Michigan!

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

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June 1st, 2012 at 11:15 PM | Hmmm (Score:5 Normal)
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I see what you did there .

Roll Tide.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 1:28 AM | The Poggi take is interesting (Score:2)
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The Poggi take is interesting since the UM camp (at least at Scout) feel pretty confident that UM is in the lead here.  They have been wrong before (with quite a few guys recently) so I guess we will have to wait and see how this one plays out.

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June 1st, 2012 at 11:11 PM | Sorry No News Here (Score:3 Normal)
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Just June filler!

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June 1st, 2012 at 11:19 PM | Too true (Score:5 Normal)
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I promise to make up for it on Monday. Lots of good 2014 info, it'll be more fun than getting a speeding ticket in the pouring rain just to watch the cop have to get soaked.

Roll Tide.

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June 1st, 2012 at 11:12 PM | RDT (Score:2 Normal)
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RDT glad to hear you are coming back with regular recruiting updates. You have been sorely missed.

G-rod

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June 1st, 2012 at 11:16 PM | I will (Score:4 Normal)
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Get into much greater detail about a lot of other recruits Monday.

Roll Tide.

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June 1st, 2012 at 11:17 PM | Thanks (Score:2 Normal)
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RDT.

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June 1st, 2012 at 11:17 PM | Thanks for the info. Another (Score:3 Normal)
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Thanks for the info. Another good bit of news from our friendly neighborhood Alabama insider.

"The goal, the expectation of this program is the Big Ten Championship"

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June 1st, 2012 at 11:25 PM | I couldn't be more excited. (Score:3 Normal)
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I couldn't be more excited. TomVH's posts were what got me hooked on this board and to be honest posts like his and RDT are is what this board needs. Glad to have you back RDT!

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June 1st, 2012 at 11:26 PM | To correct something (Score:4 Normal)
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To correct something someone said earlier, I never said that EJ Levenberry would commit to Michigan. I simply said that the schools were so evenly matched that it could go either way. People simply took that as saying he was leaning towards Michigan. EJ pretty much confirmed my thoughts with his interview on why he chose FSU. The only one that I'll take complete and utter responsibility for is Isaac.

Roll Tide.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 12:48 AM | No need to take (Score:5 Normal)
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No need to take responsibility.

As many people said last time everybody is wrong sometimes and you're not trying to be like Ace Williams. I for one really appreciate your insights and hope you'll continue to be a regular contributor.

Here's hoping for a bright future. This team does try hard and I will continue to support them.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 12:55 AM | Not to split hairs (Score:5 Normal)
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but while you didn't say he was going to commit to Michigan, you did say that Michigan led. That doesn't bother me--it's impossible to get everything right, especially with something as fickle as recruiting high school kids--but it is what it is.

See:

http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/ej-levenberry-announcing-tuesday#comment-156...

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I'd say (based upon what I've heard) I'd say Michigan is the safe bet. His father loves FSU, but EJ loves Michigan. His mother coming on the trip with him to Michigan is a damn good sign for Michigan.

mgoblog.com/mgoboard/few-interesting-recruiting-notes-3-26-12-edition

The second recruit is unknown to me right now, but I am hearing that if his Dad likes what he sees, he will allow E.J to pull the trigger. Will that Happen? Hey, your guess is as good as mine. What's is the weather like in AA that weekend? From the people that know something about it, they say that Michigan is definitely EJ's top school at the moment. His Dad does like Florida State, but I don't think it's as much as Mike Farrell says he does. He wants to wait until signing day to decide, that's certain. Having said that, I will say this. For Michigan to turn down Dorian O'Daniel, they had to know something about E.J, and be REALLY confident. Ben Gedeon is a solid prospect, but he's not the kind of prospect that you turn O'Daniel for, Levenberry is. What people haven't mentioned, is that Levenberry and O'Daniel are projected to play the same LB spot at the next level. Gedeon is a bigger kid, and not likely to be used the same as O'Daniel and Levenberry. Do the math.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 12:04 PM | You're right no one can get everything right (Score:4 Normal)
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But except for the slam dunks, has there been any evidence his sources get anything right? That's 0-2.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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June 2nd, 2012 at 1:30 AM | I wouldn't feel to bad about (Score:3 Normal)
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I wouldn't feel to bad about the Isaac bit.  I think everyone was thinking UM on that one and was like whaaa? when it did a 180 for USC so quickly.

There's probably no worse bet than guessing where a 17 or 18 year old kid is going to go to college.  Everything is fluid...

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June 1st, 2012 at 11:28 PM | Thanks for the info - I'm not (Score:1 Normal)
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Thanks for the info - I'm not going to post anything snarky because it is not me who spent a ton of time writing such a long and sincere post on an iPhone fergodsake. I will be looking forward to what you have to say on Monday and I truly appreciate the weekly updates!

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June 1st, 2012 at 11:29 PM | Impact of Hurst (Score:4 Normal)
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You mentioned in the original post that Hurst's decision could have a negative impact for us recruiting Poggi.  I heard that they were recruiting Poggi and Hurst as two different kinds of DT's.  One as a 3 tec. and one as a 5.  I get them both mixed up, I played LB in High school and never learned the difference.  Anyway.......  Do you still think Poggi would be worried about DT depth with the two of them being recruited for the two different DT spots?

 
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June 2nd, 2012 at 7:42 AM | Plus, it's been pretty (Score:3 Normal)
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Plus, it's been pretty clearly established that the caoches want to take 2 DTs, and Poggi may have "treadwell status," ie: they'll save a spot for him.

Welcome back RDT... I enjoy your posts and am not hard core enough to take them as gospel.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 11:51 AM | In the 4-3 under, the 2 DT (Score:1)
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In the 4-3 under, the 2 DT spots are nose and 3- tech. 5-tech is the SDE. I haven't heard what spots they are recruiting these 2 for, but it's possible Poggi is being recruited as a 5-tech. I'd be surprised if hurst was since he's a shorter prospect. Maybe they project Hurst as a NT. Perhaps someone has heard something I haven't.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 1:54 PM | That is correct (Score:2)
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That is correct according to Sam Webb.

Poggi 5, Hurst 3 potentially 1 (NT).

Poggi and Joe Mathis sound like they would be lining up at the same position, if that helps anyone.

Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast.

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June 3rd, 2012 at 12:47 AM | Hurst projecting to NT (Score:2)
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I heard somewhere that they were projecting Hurst to NT.  I saw it somewhere on the board or heard it from Sam Webb.  Can't remember which one.

 
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June 1st, 2012 at 11:32 PM | We don't expect a 100% success rate (Score:2 Normal)
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But it would be nice if we got Poggi, Treadwell, and Green. RDT, nice to have you back. Go Blue, beat Bama. (sorry RDT)

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June 1st, 2012 at 11:33 PM | Im all Maize and Blue, but... (Score:2 Normal)
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Like Ive stated before on this blog, I was born and raised in B'ham, Al and I currently live in Vegas. I practically have to watch every Bama game just to have something to talk about when I call my family in the fall. I especially appreciate what you bring to this blog RDT. Thanks homie...

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June 1st, 2012 at 11:45 PM | Reuben Foster rumor (Score:1)
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Rumor going around that Bama's top commit may have switched to Auburn on his visit.

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June 1st, 2012 at 11:51 PM | I wonder how much cash he (Score:3 Normal)
Farnn
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I wonder how much cash he brought home from that visit.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 10:00 AM | Word on the street is that he (Score:3 Normal)
TallyWolverine
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Word on the street is that he has brought in a new chief negotiator--Cecil Newton. My guess would be well into 6 figures.

Campaign manager--Hoke 2012.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 12:01 AM | If true (Score:2)
goblueritzy92
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it would make up for the whole T.J. Yeldon situation.

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June 1st, 2012 at 11:49 PM | It's RDT's world. We just (Score:-1 Overrated)
Clown Sauce
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It's RDT's world. We just livin' in it

"What" ain't no country I ever heard of. They speak English in What?

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June 1st, 2012 at 11:57 PM | Currently watching... (Score:2 Normal)
justingoblue
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and rooting against (sorry RDT) Alabama in the Women's College World Series.

/notevenacoolstorybro

Go Blue!

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June 2nd, 2012 at 12:02 AM | I love RDT, but is there any (Score:5 Normal)
TheGhostofYost
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I love RDT, but is there any reason to think he has inside recruiting information?

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June 2nd, 2012 at 8:13 AM | Considering his track record, (Score:4 Normal)
robbyt003
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Considering his track record, NOPE

Plus a couple weeks ago he was basically saying Poggi was a Michigan lock.  

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

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June 2nd, 2012 at 10:54 AM | There are no absolutes in (Score:1 Normal)
Elmer
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There are no absolutes in recruiting.  We're talking about 18 y/o kids.  RDT does have contacts that can give the prevailing perspective amongst the high school coaches. If you need something more precise, wait until the first week in February and get your recruiting update then.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 12:08 PM | How do you KNOW (Score:3 Normal)
M-Wolverine
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He has contacts that can give you...anything? Or how about you wait till his sources show a track record of getting, well, anything right, before you admonish someone for taking it with a grain of salt?

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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June 2nd, 2012 at 12:24 PM | Someday everyone will realize (Score:5 Normal)
Run 2 Daylight
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Someday everyone will realize that he's just a creative story teller who has subscription accounts on Rivals and Scout. I guess getting attention on message boards is fun though...

 

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June 2nd, 2012 at 12:25 AM | Right now, RDT is somewhere (Score:3 Normal)
Lutha
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Right now, RDT is somewhere between Raback and BKFinest.  The next month should show us what he's got.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 12:57 AM | Good to have you back RDT. (Score:2 Normal)
Voltron
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Good to have you back RDT. Any inside recruiting info is good content in my book, I don't care how "ground breaking" the news is

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June 2nd, 2012 at 1:24 AM | So there's a sense about (Score:5 Normal)
TheGhostofYost
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So there was a wrong guess on Isaac, a sense about Poggi, a belief about Green, and zero info on Treadwell.  Sweet!

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June 2nd, 2012 at 1:59 AM | RDT, you don't think Green's (Score:2 Normal)
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RDT, you don't think Green's good friend being a LB at Ohio hurts Michigan's chances a lot? That was my thought on the matter. He said that he prefers the Pro-style (of course!) but I think that relationship is what's keeping Ohio in it despite having a spread offense.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 3:37 AM | Hurst committing wont really (Score:2)
ken725
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Hurst committing wont really matter at all if we take 2 DTs.

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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June 2nd, 2012 at 7:30 AM | Fuller? (Score:2)
Bombadil
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I know it's crazy to ask but What are the chances we get Kendall Fuller over VT now that M is in his top 4? I think he could wear the Charles Woodson no. 2 jersey.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 8:10 AM | RDT (Score:1 Normal)
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Really Damn Thrilled you are back. You sir, are the only thing I look forward to on here, other than my 2 string guitar of course!

"The street legend is back, bitches!"

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June 2nd, 2012 at 8:14 AM | still drunk from the night (Score:2 Normal)
robbyt003
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still drunk from the night before?

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

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June 2nd, 2012 at 8:18 AM | Still Drunk (Score:1 Normal)
Shakey Jake
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from the last decade, man!

Can you spare a quarter so a man can get a cup of joe at Drakes?

"The street legend is back, bitches!"

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June 2nd, 2012 at 8:56 AM | huh...? (Score:2 Normal)
robbyt003
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huh...?

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

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June 2nd, 2012 at 11:04 AM | He is referring to his avatar and user name (Score:3 Normal)
Joby
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As doughboy references below, Shakey Jake was an eccentric gentleman who was a staple on campus and the surrounding area, who would play an oft-broken-stringed pink guitar and hustle for money. He died in 2007. I saw many times around Ann Arbor during my mid-90s college years.

MMB Bones '94-'97

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