Week 13 Polls & Ratings (AP #3, Coaches #4) Open Thread
Your Week 13 Thread for all polls, rankings, and computer ratings discussion. I will try to update with AP and Coaches Poll when they are released later this afternoon.
FEI & F/+ update tomorrow. Michigan looks solidly #3 in most of these with OSU #2.
AP Poll #3: http://collegefootball.ap.org/poll
Coaches Poll #4: http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/football/polls/coaches-poll/
F/+ #2: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/fplus
S&P+ #2: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ncaa
FEI #3: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/fei
Massey Ratings #3: http://www.masseyratings.com/cf/fbs/ratings
Sagarin Ratings #3 (#3 in Predictor): http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/
ESPN FPI #3: http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/teamratings
SRS #3: http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/years/2016-ratings.html
Michigan's team statistical profile:
Football Study Hall: http://www.footballstudyhall.com/pages/2016-michigan-advanced-statistical-profile
ESPN FPI: http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/fpi?id=130&year=2016
Massey Ratings: http://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=4741&s=286577
November 20th, 2016 at 12:09 PM ^
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November 20th, 2016 at 1:23 PM ^
And most times when I think about doing it, there are already 5 different threads for every poll and rating so I don't bother at that point.
November 20th, 2016 at 1:10 PM ^
The sense of entitlement is strong with this one.
November 20th, 2016 at 1:21 PM ^
November 20th, 2016 at 1:26 PM ^
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November 20th, 2016 at 1:35 PM ^
November 20th, 2016 at 2:02 PM ^
When we embarked on this season initially, the guideline actually was that catch-all threads would be fine but it is incumbent upon the OP to keep it updated and myself or one of the other mods would bump it occasionally if necessary. That being said though, I get that Sunday is sometimes the day for "all the shit we didn't do on Saturday", especially those of us that have families, so if someone is well-intentioned and then doesn't update it, I can't fault them really. Actually, it is when people haven't done that the multiple poll threads are allowed to stand, so I do make it a point to at least check.
November 20th, 2016 at 4:44 PM ^
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November 20th, 2016 at 1:39 PM ^
Maybe you should take a poll
November 20th, 2016 at 2:05 PM ^
November 20th, 2016 at 1:05 PM ^
Clemson rises to #3 over Michigan in the Coaches Poll.
Other teams of note for Michigan:
OSU #2
Wisconsin #6
PSU #8
Colorado #9
Iowa Others Receiving Votes (1)
MSU NR
I think Iowa could crack the Top 25 with a win over Nebraska next week.
November 20th, 2016 at 1:05 PM ^
November 20th, 2016 at 1:13 PM ^
Rutgers and Purdue may be the worst two teams in the Power 5 after Kansas beat Texas yesterday. Illinois is in the conversation for the 5 worst along with Arizona. Probably shouldn't leave Maryland out of that conversation though with how they are playing down the stretch.
November 20th, 2016 at 1:32 PM ^
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November 20th, 2016 at 1:46 PM ^
Indiana, Northwestern, & MSU are all probably better than their record would indicate and have suffered from scheduling against the top of the B1G.
But I don't think explains how bad Rutgers, Purdue, Illinois, & Maryland are. Maryland's record actually looks better than it actually should be due to a weak nonconference schedule and drawing Purdue in a crossover game. Purdue avoided Michigan and OSU in crossover games. Illinois & Rutgers also benefited from playing each other in a crossover game.
November 20th, 2016 at 1:13 PM ^
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November 20th, 2016 at 1:05 PM ^
God I hate Ohio State so much. So very much.
November 20th, 2016 at 2:19 PM ^
November 20th, 2016 at 2:34 PM ^
November 20th, 2016 at 2:34 PM ^
November 20th, 2016 at 2:37 PM ^
Michigan rises to #3 in the AP Poll
Other teams of note for Michigan:
OSU #2
Wisconsin #5
PSU #8
Colorado #9
Iowa Others Receiving Votes (7)
MSU NR
November 20th, 2016 at 2:43 PM ^
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November 20th, 2016 at 4:00 PM ^
The polls no longer matter.
Win out and we are the 2 seed in the CFP at worst.
Lose on Saturday and we are done talking about it.
No Plan B. All or nothing.
As it should be. Imagine what it was like in most of the '70s . . . beat Ohio State and you were Big Ten champs and going to the Rose Bowl in sunny CA on New Years Day.
Lose, and . . . nothing. Absolutely nothing.
Talk about pressure.
November 20th, 2016 at 4:36 PM ^
The polls have been irrelevant since the BCS was replaced by the CFP. The only poll that matters is the CFP committee poll on Tuesday. I guess the final AP poll after the bowls has some significance for program history.
I only include them in this because some people still like to look at them. IMO, the computer ratings are far more interesting for discussion than the AP & Coaches polls.
November 20th, 2016 at 4:51 PM ^
I was there...UM fans younger than me have no idea.
1970: Michigan goes 9-1, losing only to OSU. No bowl game.
1972: Michigan goes 10-1, losing only to OSU. No bowl game.
1973: Michigan goes 10-0-1, with the infamous 10-10 tie. No bowl game.
1974: Michigan goes 10-1, losing only to OSU. No bowl game.
So over four seasons we go 39-3-1, yet sat home for the holidays every fricking year. There's no doubt that if the conference hadn't had that criminally stupid Rose Bowl-only policy at the time, Bo wouldn't have had to wait until 1980 for his first bowl victory. We would have played in the Orange or Cotton or Sugar Bowls and we'd have kicked the asses of some overrated SEC, ACC, or Big 8 team.
November 21st, 2016 at 5:21 AM ^
In 1973 9 year old me cried for 2 days.
November 21st, 2016 at 5:21 AM ^
In 1973 9 year old me cried for 2 days.
November 20th, 2016 at 4:39 PM ^
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