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August 29th, 2012 at 12:14 PM
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Chi-Blue
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Week 1 upsets

So as the season kicks off tomorrow night are there any games this weekend that you think might be upset specials? Leaving the Bama game off the list any other games where upset looms large?

I like Auburn to beat Clemson with Clemson not having super-soph Sammy Watkins and still feeling West Virginias foot in their butt.

Wishful Thinking - Number two, you guessed it! BSU at MSU on Friday night. Yes at Sparty stadium, MSU Def is very good, and BSU lost almost everyone. Enter one of the best football coaches in the land Chris Peterson. This guy can coach and they will be ready, it happens every year. So much rests on the performance of Maxwell. I think its close and BSU wins a close one 20-16.

Any others???

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August 29th, 2012 at 12:19 PM
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Belisarius
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NCSU

NCSU over the Vols would be my actual guess.

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August 29th, 2012 at 12:40 PM
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No way. Tennessee is going to

No way. Tennessee is going to have a potent offense and with a new D-coordinator I think the Vols will surprise some folks this season.

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August 29th, 2012 at 1:55 PM
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jrt336
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Tennessee is overrated, and

Tennessee is overrated, and they just lost their best WR.

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August 29th, 2012 at 3:26 PM
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Volverine
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No one thinks Da'Rick Rogers

No one thinks Da'Rick Rogers is better than Justin Hunter. The only thing Da'Rick could do better was go over the middle for big 3rd down catches. Our new JuCo guy will be able to do that just fine, and we have better and bigger TEs now.

Tennessee hung with a lot of teams until the freshmen had to play in the second half last season--this year the freshmen are no longer freshmen. Expect Tennessee to hang with the SEC East's best. 

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August 29th, 2012 at 9:00 PM
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Lionsfan
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They still have Derek Dooley

They still have Derek Dooley as a head coach...

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August 31st, 2012 at 11:03 PM
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Volverine
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Too much offense from

Too much offense from Tennessee. No upsets here! 

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August 29th, 2012 at 8:57 PM
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Agreed I'm betting the +220

Agreed I'm betting the +220 moneyline.

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August 29th, 2012 at 12:20 PM
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Belisarius
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I'd like to say Navy over ND

I'd like to say Navy over ND as well, but I'm biased, so I don't trsut myself.

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August 29th, 2012 at 12:29 PM
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Belisarius
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In Ireland, you have to give

In Ireland, you have to give ND a huge homefield advantage. The crowd is going to be very loud and very biased against my poor Mids. Not that the Midshipmen aren't used to adversity. I like Navy for every other game they play, or at least give them a fighting chance, and I think we can beat ND too. But again, I think if I weren't being a homer, I'd say Navy pobably won't beat ND this year.

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August 29th, 2012 at 12:34 PM
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Maybe so but I'd still my

Maybe so but I'd still my money on the US Navy to take care of that "homefield advantadge bias" problem.  What do the Irish boast?  A few thousand drunken soccer hooligan with molitov cocktails and sticks.

We, on the other hand, bring this to the party

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August 29th, 2012 at 12:35 PM
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No they won't

Nobody in Ireland gives a flying fuck about a college founded by French priests in Indiana.  The crowd will be a few thousand rich ND alums who made the trip, a few locals with free tickets, and a bunch of folks disguised as empty seats. 

If Navy can move/control the ball, they have a shot.  The only worry I see is giving a team an entire offseason to prepare for the option instead of one week in the middle of the year.  If ND is preared for it and not distracted by the vacation, things will be tougher.  Either way I'll take the 15 points though.

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August 29th, 2012 at 2:17 PM
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markinmsp
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 Also, they are having joint

 Also, they are having joint exercises with the UK so there will be some navy ships anchored in Dublin, and crewman will be at the game. (But, half of those could root for ND as well. The typical navy crewman’s allegiance is not particularly strong for the naval academy.)

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August 29th, 2012 at 1:00 PM
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I wouldn't be so sure of

I wouldn't be so sure of that.  My Irish grandmother loathed Notre Dame because no true Irish-Catholic school would hqave a French name.  In addition, Ireland's younger generation has a rather large anti-Catholic group.  Ireland leads the world in terms of growth rate for the athiest segement of its population.  Those Catholic Church sex scandals had some really nasty fallout over there.  My Irish relatives asked me to ship them Navy gear since they love football, but hate Catholicism these days.  One of them was posting on Facebook how they ran some Domers out of a pub last night and was quite proud of it.  

Basically the Catholic Church was really tightly ingrained in Irish society and that made the sex scandal a million times worse since it was like being betrayed by your best friend.  Left some really, really, bitter wounds.   

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August 29th, 2012 at 5:38 PM
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That's a really bizarre

That's a really bizarre thought process. And the bar thing just seems dickish.

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August 29th, 2012 at 1:58 PM
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I have some Irish relatives,

I have some Irish relatives, and they're appalled by Notre Dame's mascot. 

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August 29th, 2012 at 2:22 PM
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Bronco648
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I was wondering about that.

I was wondering about that.

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August 29th, 2012 at 3:45 PM
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I spent some time in County

I spent some time in County Cork, and they simply didn't care about ND, college football, or this particular game in general.  In fact, Speaking to some coworkers based there, there hasn't been much hoopla about it all (at least in County Cork... rival of Dublin's)

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August 29th, 2012 at 11:58 PM
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I lived in Ireland for a while; my friends--all Trinity and

UCD grads--tended to scorn American ideas of Irishness, wanted nothing to do with St. Patrick's day (for example), when Dublin would fill with drunken American cops. I was surprised this thing was happening at all, but money talks. And Ireland and England have a few American football fans. 

Hope Navy kicks their tail, of course. 

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August 29th, 2012 at 12:21 PM
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Upsets

Boise St., Navy and Michigan



Wishful thinking?

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August 29th, 2012 at 12:23 PM
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WMU over Illinois. Carder's

WMU over Illinois. Carder's gonna light them up.

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August 29th, 2012 at 12:33 PM
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trueblueintexas
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^^^ This. Illinois has a

^^^ This.

Illinois has a completely new coaching staff with a team that had problems last year.  There is only one Brady Hoke.

Good chance for a program like WMU to chalk up a win against the B1G.

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August 29th, 2012 at 12:53 PM
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justingoblue
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Plus they have the best QB...

in the state of Michigan. Just ask the reporters in Kalamazoo.

http://www.annarbor.com/sports/um-football/western-michigans-alex-carden...

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August 29th, 2012 at 12:58 PM
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Meh, Cubit can't coach his

Meh, Cubit can't coach his way out of a paper bag. I saw his squads up close multiple times a year, and they can't get the big win to turn the program into a consistent MAC contender. They may beat Illinois, but this Illini team is coached by the same guy who would frequently make the Broncos their whipping boys in Toledo. 

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August 29th, 2012 at 2:03 PM
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Not really...

Beckman's Rockets only played Cubit's Broncos 3 times.  The first time he lost by 32 and the last 2 times he won by a combined 16.  I hardly seeing that as "making the Broncos their whipping boys."

While I admit I'm not the biggest fan of Cubit and think he sometimes makes idiotic decisions, he took over a sorry excuse for a program and regardless of what you think you saw, he has indeed turned WMU into perennial contenders in the MAC and a team that has shown it can take down, or at least compete with, lower tier BCS conference foes.

 

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August 29th, 2012 at 2:21 PM
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WMUgoblue
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Cubit has only managed to get

Cubit has only managed to get 2nd place in the MAC West twice in his tenure at Western, he's been 3rd or 4th every year and they've had plenty of talent to be far superior than what he has produced. I don't think you can call them perennial contenders when they haven't even been to a MAC championship game. You are however correct about Beckman not owning Western the way I thought they had, it has seemed like Toledo have had the Broncos number, at least while I was there from 06-10.

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August 29th, 2012 at 2:43 PM
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JHendo
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Yeah, the Broncos have always

Yeah, the Broncos have always stuck around 2nd or 3rd in the West, but they've always had the potential and have been in the position to get to the MAC championship game most years of his tenure.

Like I think you were kinda getting at (albeit in a way that degraded Cubit's accomplishments) , is that it's safe to say that Cubit has overperformed from what the expectations of Western used to be, but with the talent he's been able to bring in and develop, he's underperformed in conference play. 

That being said, I think Illinois gets the win, but you can't count out the chance of another Bronco upset.

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August 29th, 2012 at 12:24 PM
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Boise State I'm actually

Boise State I'm actually conflicted about. I believe a rivalry is a rivalry because you hate the other guy, and it's impossible to wish them well. So I can't root for Sparty. On the other hand it will reflect poorly on the conference if State loses, so I can't in good faith root for either side. I'll watch it, of course. I'll just be unhappy no matter the outcome. Or happy. Depends on my mood.

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August 29th, 2012 at 12:32 PM
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Normally, I would agree. But

Normally, I would agree. But it's not like Boise State=Appalachian State, even without Kellon Moore. We're not going to get the same mileage lording a loss over them. Appalachian State belongs in a seperate, miserable category of its own, that only Virginia Tech and Ole Miss, to my knowledge, can truly appreciate.

So for pure Shadenfreude purposes, I agree. But I don't know...

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August 29th, 2012 at 12:47 PM
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Lionsfan
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How the hell did you let

How the hell did you let Sparty fans lord that over you when we did this to them later that season?

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August 29th, 2012 at 1:29 PM
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WolverineMac
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Or simply the fact that

The natural rival for State is CMU...

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August 29th, 2012 at 2:30 PM
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MichFan1997
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as a central grad

No. State can get behind western for my cmu related hate

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August 29th, 2012 at 12:28 PM
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You are absolutely right.

You are absolutely right.  Look at the beating the SEC received after Boise beat UGA in Atlanta.  Boy, I wouldn't want that to happen to my conference.

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August 29th, 2012 at 12:24 PM
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I fully expect Boise St. to beat MSU

In fact, I believe this so much so, I think that MSU winning would be an upset.  I don't care how many players Boise lost -- Peterson knows what he's doing.

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August 29th, 2012 at 12:56 PM
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That's pretty bold. I wonder

That's pretty bold. I wonder how many times "F you" will be yelled towards you and your son.

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August 29th, 2012 at 12:58 PM
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denardogasm
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If i knew your name i'd call

If i knew your name i'd call child protective services on you. Thats just dangerous behavior.

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August 29th, 2012 at 1:03 PM
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HELLE
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I don't know about this.

it would be awful if you got beat up in front of your son.

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August 29th, 2012 at 12:43 PM
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hart20
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There's no way Auburn beats Clemson

At least 25 of Auburn's players have been arrested, suspended, kicked off the team, or, in rare cases, even injured. These numbers aren't even an exaggeration.

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August 29th, 2012 at 1:23 PM
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corundum
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It's not likely, but

It's not likely, but Clemson's defense did get ripped for 70 points in their bowl game, so it's not impossible.

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August 29th, 2012 at 2:11 PM
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goblue1213
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DC

Clemson also signed Brent Venables who was DC at Oklahoma. Everyone on this blog knows how much a new coordinator can make with a lot of the same talent.

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August 29th, 2012 at 3:14 PM
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corundum
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Venables is a good DC, but

Venables is a good DC, but Oklahoma also gave up 41 to Texas Tech, 45 to Baylor, and 44 Ok St. last year. He has also only been coaching since '93, and has had zero NFL experience. Comparing him to Mattison is quite the stretch.

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August 29th, 2012 at 10:30 PM
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goblue1213
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Agreed

I totally agree that he is nowhere near the caliber of Mattison. But from what I seem to remember hearing he is considered one of the top 15-20 DCs incollege. Clemson has talent on their D, so maybe a new coordinator makes a difference. I live in Clemson, and the only sports talk I can get in my car is a homer station, which really sucks.

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August 29th, 2012 at 12:49 PM
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Rooting for the B1G

It's important for all Big 10 teams to win their non conference games. I never met a student on campus that didn't understand this so I don't know why board members don't get it. Bottom line is that fans of Michigan root for the Big 10. It's good for the Big 10, it's good for the championship game voting and its good for Michigan.

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August 29th, 2012 at 1:35 PM
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BlueNation
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Bottom Line is

that IMO, you're wrong. I won't EVER root for ohio to win. That is unless it benefits Michigan. Also, the only time I'll root for Sparty, is under those same circumstances and when they play ohio. Pretty much the same goes for ND...though they aren't a Big Ten school.

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August 29th, 2012 at 1:43 PM
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Needs
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Nope, I want them with a

Nope, I want them with a record where a loss in the Game will cost them something. All those wins in the 1990s were made ever more sweet by the fact that they cost OSU undefeated seasons, shots at conference championships, etc. This is made more complicated by the conference championship game, but I want OSU good enough that a win comes with painful costs.

I don't care what MSU does, as long as we beat them.

I hope ND loses every game they play.

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August 29th, 2012 at 2:11 PM
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CRex
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I agree with the record going

I agree with the record going into the game.  I want us both undefeated every year going into the game against tOSU.  Then I want to put up 70 on them.

For MSU, the good times where when John L Smith brought them into the game 4-0 or 5-0 against us.  Then Carr basically ripped out Smith's heart and showed everyone the blueprint to beat State and they just collapsed for the rest of the season.  All through Sept all the State fans were coming out the woodwork and chirping about they'd beat Michigan but by Nov you couldn't find a single State fan in the state of Michigan.  

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August 29th, 2012 at 12:49 PM
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Unrelated to OP but a couple

Unrelated to OP but a couple weeks ago I saw an MSU on tRCMB (I know, I know, I shouldn't go there) and they were circlejerking themselves about how they're just like USC in the sense that they will schedule anyone at anytime citing Boise as an example.  Then they went on to talk about how UM was too afraid of scheduling Boise as if they had completely forgotten we were playing Alabama this year.  

I'll say Vanderbilt upsets South Carolina. 

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August 29th, 2012 at 1:46 PM
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Needs
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That being said, full credit

That being said, full credit to Hollis for getting some pretty big time opponents in home and homes. The next few years they play two game series against Oregon, Alabama, Miami, and Boise, and are continuing their ND series. That's far better than what we have lined up.

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August 29th, 2012 at 2:31 PM
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Chester Cheetah
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Hopefully they go back to the

Hopefully they go back to the 6-6 and 7-5 teams they have been in the past and get destroyed by those teams.  I would like to see Miami in particular obliterate them.

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August 29th, 2012 at 12:55 PM
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I can see Northern Illinois

I can see Northern Illinois beating Iowa but I don't know that it constitutes an upset.  NIU is getting top 25 votes while Iowa is not.  Still, it wouldn't surprise me to see the Hawkeyes lose Saturday.  I do not think Vandy will beat South Carolina.  I'm taking SC with the points. 

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August 29th, 2012 at 1:27 PM
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corundum
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Northern Illinois is

Northern Illinois is replacing their record setting QB, Chandler Harnish along with almost their entire offense save for their two starting wide receivers. Even if Iowa can't field a RB with intact ligaments, they should still be able to get it done with an above average defense.

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August 29th, 2012 at 1:20 PM
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bigbro05
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Wait are you seriously going

Wait are you seriously going to the game? Way to rep Team 133 and all, but admittedly this seems strange to me. Considering UM isn't playing, I have to agree you will in fact be the only one repping the maize 'n blue

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August 29th, 2012 at 1:30 PM
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My obligatory pick: Navy over

My obligatory pick: Navy over ND

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August 29th, 2012 at 1:33 PM
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corundum
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I'm going with OU over Penn

I'm going with OU over Penn St. And maybe even Toledo over Arizona. On a side note, is anyone else intrigued by the match up between Arkansas St. and Oregon? Even if Gus Malzhan's team gets blown out of the water, I think it will be interesting to see what kind of team he fields against the ducks.

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August 29th, 2012 at 1:48 PM
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EMU by 10 over Ball State,

EMU by 10 over Ball State, the upset part being EMU winning by a 2 score margin 

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August 29th, 2012 at 2:02 PM
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BSU 31 MSU 14

Boise hits state like a hurricane. The terrible weather leads to mistakes by Alan Maxcells and Chris Peterson takes advantage. Is it so hard to believe that Boise's understudy outplays coupons?

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August 29th, 2012 at 9:12 PM
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allintime23
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The new state QB. I think

The new state QB. I think that's his name. Who cares?

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August 29th, 2012 at 9:48 PM
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Coupons, Maxcells...

I cannot embed anything because I'm on my phone, but I still see what you did there.

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August 29th, 2012 at 2:11 PM
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Akron vs UCF

Terry Bowden is going to surprise a lot of people this year.  UCF plays OSU in Week 2, and I wouldn't be stunned if they neglected to prepare for Akron so they could focus more on OSU. 

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August 29th, 2012 at 4:52 PM
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Thoughts On This One?

What do people think about the potential for  SMU to upset Baylor on Sunday? SMU doesn't have a frightening defense, but they have a decent running game that might give Baylor some trouble. Baylor has Nick Florence, who has looked serviceable in the few games I've seen where he took snaps, but if Baylor rolls out the sort of defense they displayed in the Alamo Bowl, this one might be morbidly interesting. 

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August 29th, 2012 at 10:10 PM
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GoBlue_55
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I agree. I'm intrigued by the

I agree. I'm intrigued by the Boise St./MSU game. Boise State is always tough. They've beaten every big name team they've played too. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they win Friday.

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