C-Webb was one of my favorite players of all time.
Mason NEEDS this, Pistons, after all you've put him through
C-Webb was one of my favorite players of all time.
We already have Webber's side of the story. It goes something like this:
"Everything is somebody else's fault. I did nothing wrong. Anyone who disagrees with me can kiss my ass. Taking responsibility for one's actions is for the little people."
Until he called in to WDFN in their early days, I thought Webber would be entertaining, and I really wanted to hear what he had to say. Sadly, he was rude, curt, and totally unrepentant and/or unaware of his own shortcomings.
This is one University of Michigan book/movie I won't buy, because it was never about the University of Michigan for Chris Webber; it has always been all about Chris Webber. Besides, I'm sure he will make enough controversial statements that nobody will actually have to read the book or see the movie. All of the "good stuff" will be reported and discussed ad nauseum.
"The Black Forrest Gump?" I hope Winston Groom sues him if he actually uses that title.
I really wish audio still existed of the WDFN tirade, because if we could post an mp3 of it every time a CWebb thread comes up, a lot of the Webber apologists would be changing their tunes.
I can't afford a pizza, or to go to a movie, and they're selling my jersey...all while he's taking thousands of dollars.
about this, and I'm a fence-sitter--loved him as a player, confounded by way it f'd up M bball. I always assumed he WAS a kid, and that his parents' greed compromised him, but maybe this angle is off?
I think a number of you are being too harsh.
For example, what if the reason CWeb hasn't spoken on this topic is that his father took the money, and CWeb saw little of it himself? One can imagine many similar situations. Doesn't make it right, but a number of scenarios could make CWeb seem a little more of a sympathetic player from that sordid time.
We don't really know all the details, so to judge so harshly without all the information is likely premature (IMHO). Of course, this probably wouldn't be the first time for such a thing to occur on the internet...
I did love those Fab Five teams. Right down to the last minute they all played together. After that timeout, let me tell you, it was a long drive back to Ann Arbor.
for his parents. Although it's asserted they were middle class, we really don't know anything about their finances. Not that anything justifies taking the money. . .
It's been 20 years! He's had time to clear the air if he wanted. If only they had made an indepth study of the time period that he and his teammates could get out their side of the story and shown it somewhere for everyone to see....
If after that long with all those opportunities you don't have anything to say, it's not "the internet's fault" for assuming you have something to hide.
At least he didn't let us know six years ago to build up anyone's hopes like Duke Nukem Forever. Actually, that might be a good title for his book...
After watching Jim Tressel be carried on the shoulders of an entire university on Saturday, it just drove the point home for me: no matter how successful Chris Webber was at Michigan, until there is acknowledgment and contrition, there should be no support. Watching the Tressel spectacle was stomach-turning. I want no part of that kind of hypocrisy.
You make a great point and it kind of makes me look at Webber differently. I was in school during the Fab 5 era and it was spectacular. The basketball games were amazing and the buzz around them was great fun to be a part of (I worked a few hours as a student at Crisler at the time and got to sit on the court during games). I wouldn't trade those memories for anything. But I graduated before all the sh-t went down and don't have the bad taste like others that came after me so I don't appreciate all the hate. But analogizing the situation to Tressel being honored is spot on and I think my feelings about Webber being welcomed back have changed.
in the media picked up on how ugly the Tressel thing was. And as for C Webb, I really wish there were a good accurate detailed picture of what happened out there. I would read it in a heartbeat.
If you bring the Tressel thing up, as a Michigan fan, it can sound like sour grapes, but among my friends who are non-Michigan and non-Ohio State fans, they were all appalled. It was like a big Fu** You to the NCAA.
I love the different reactions from people. I try to keep things in perspective and realize that many student athletes are students in the simplest definition of the word, especially in college basketball. Michigan profited off of the Fab Five, and I think if most of us were completely honest we would have taken the money too, given Webb's background. I don't think Chris Webber should be the scapegoat for what happened since it was a systematic problem. I blame the boosters, the coaches and mostly the administration.
What was it about Webber's background that would have enduced him to take the money?
From what I understand, Webber was from a pretty stable, middle-class (or at least lower-middle class) family. He was not as poor as Jalen Rose or Juwan Howard, and they didn't take big bucks from Martin (Rose admitted taking small amounts).
I am very interested to see what comes of this and his thoughts on the Fab Five and Michigan.