would be exellent. The more rings our coaching staff has the better.
landing spot. will be interesting to see how he does.
would be exellent. The more rings our coaching staff has the better.
Big fan of young NFL colleges in situations like this
Does he have any previous association to Michigan? If not, NO! A Michigan Man with coach the Michigan Secondary!
I'll take two, please.
This is great and all, but this would be a parallel move for him. Not sure it makes sense unless he likes the college game better. Can he recruit?
It wouldn't be a lateral move. He's the assistant (to the) DB coach in New Orleans. He'd be the DB coach here.
he is an assistant secondary coach there, and here he would be the head of the secondary.
So its a minor upgrade,but still a tough one to make coming from a team like the Saints.
is the guarantee of a job in case there is a labor stoppage in the NFL.
Very good point. It seems likely now that there might be a season or a shortened season next year.
is a "parallel move," and how does one make it? Is that kind of like doing the splits?
The two jobs never intersect.
Can he recruit?
Can he coach, which I think is obvious. Mattison and the words "Ed Reed" will work their magic.
From Ohio and young (in his mid-30's), so there are two more positives. If he wants to come, sign him up.
He coached at Eastern for a year (2003), so he knows what it's like to live in the area.
He's also originally from Cleveland Heights, Ohio. So, maybe he'd be able to help us with some OSU recruiting battles in Ohio.
Coached w/ John Hoke w/ the Houston Texans.
I think that Hoke has built a great staff that can seem to recruit really well. What I want to see from a DB coach is someone who is a great coach. Someone who can coach up this secondary and get them playing well. For several years, our secondary has been rough.
"Each year he also was an assistant with the special teams."
...and special teams!
All you coach are belong to us... except Jim Harbaugh
How long is Mattison going to be the head DC. I'm guessing 3 to 5 years so if this guy is talented he could learn under mattison and become the next DC.
Certainly looks like we could do worse. Tony Oden has college experience (BC, ECU, EMU) and the Saints secondary seems to have done well while he's been there. League leading pick-sixes sounds nice.
"Pick em' up!"
Is Corwin Brown still a possibility? Great recruiter, M ties. I know he was thrown out there by Brian on WTKA the week before last, and Brian mentioned him in one of his posts.
He might be a possibility, but his name always gets thrown around. He holds the same job that Oden holds for the Pats.
first off, I think getting another nfl guy would be great, don't get me wrong. But the Saints went for a lot of picks and did get them, but they also got burned a lot (see recent Seattle game) as an example. Now Brees can offset a lot of defensive risks, so maybe Denard can as well. Also the the defense was injured a lot too, so that may have something to do with it. Anyway, if UM can get this guy, go for it.
The New Orleans secondary's poor performance against Seattle had more to do with injuries than anything else. After Malcom Jenkins went down, his backup Darren Sharper and Roman Harper never seemed to be on the same page.
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On a related note... can he touch kids?
I like the new staff overall, but agree with Brian that it needs a few younger guys. Tony Oden might be a great addition.
Nice to finally hear somebody's name mentioned for the job. I am not very patient to begin with but man have we taken our sweet ass time filling our last 2 coaching positions.
Better to wait and get the right guy than hire on the fly and then spend a year or two undoing the possible damage.
I fully agree with this comment, now that we actually have a defensive coordinator.
Think of how MSU fans feel with no OC. And I haven't even heard them linked to any one.
you shouldn't worry...the two spots were actually decided a bit ago, and you'll be happy with them. (or should be)
That would be a huge pick-up, as he's young and a midwest (Ohio) native. Plus, like others have noted, he could step in as DC when Mattison retires. This is where Brandon's "let's spend money" mantra needs to be put into effect.
And this is no way attacks Hoke or this staff, but I kind of wish UM had shown this same spending foresight under the RR era.
Is he old, white and balding enough?
And yes, I think he is.
He would be a great choice as the DB coach. Bringing in the NFL caliber coaches would definitely make the staff better and attract great recruits. I just hope Hoke continues to put the pieces together so well. I've had a great feeling about him since he became the coach.
I prefer cornflakes but NO's secondary has been good in the past few years. Plus he is from the Midwest so that is a plus.
as long as he can recruit. He may not know the midwest area, but I'm sure the other coaches could show him around. On the other hand, he may have some good contact down in LA, who knows?
How would he not know the midwest area? He grew up in Ohio, went to college in Ohio, interned with the Browns for two years, coached at Eastern Michigan for one year, and spent some time with the Packers. Did he get his memory erased in New Orleans?
"Did he get his memory erased in New Orleans?"
That's happened to more than one person.
I'm still holding out hope for Beyonce.
As an old, white, and bald guy, I think Oden would be tremendous, Jim.
The critical connection here has to be his time with Jon Hoke, who as DB coach would have been Oden's immediate boss when he was with the Texans in 2004 and 2005. Brady might also have known him from Oden's season as EMU DB coach in 2003.
I disagree that it's a lateral move in terms of responsiblity, and it's very possible it represents a step up in pay as well. Oden might actually like coaching at the college level, too. I hope that this is more than a silly internet rumor that Dienhart has passed on.
It looks like he's under consideration to be promoted to full secondary coach for the Saints:
"NO RUSH FOR SECONDARY COACH: Payton said the Saints won't be in a rush to replace secondary coach Dennis Allen, who left to become defensive coordinator of the Denver Broncos.
"We have time," Payton said. "What I'm going to do is just go through and really take time and evaluate all of our options."
One of those options could be assistant secondary coach Tony Oden, who has served in that capacity with the Saints since 2006. Oden, a former linebacker at Baldwin-Wallace, began his coaching career in the college ranks before being hired as an assistant secondary coach by the Houston Texans in 2004."
I'll take any pro guy even if they're just a assistant to the DB coach High School kids eat that up when it comes to recruiting.
Oden would be great. But what would be better is, the Packers win the Super Bowl. Woodson finally gets his ring and decides to retire to return to coach the DBs at his Alma Mater. Eventually taking over for Mattison. Now that would be awesome. How could a defensive player not want to play for the only defensive player ever to win the Heisman? If you gonna dream, dream BIG!
We need this guy....yesterday