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February 27th, 2013 at 10:58 PM
(Reply to #275) #1802
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Michigan

...sadly

Which begs the question, did we lose to a good team tonight?

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February 27th, 2013 at 10:43 PM
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Perkis-Size Me
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On the plus side guys, Denard

On the plus side guys, Denard is up by 6k votes for the cover vote.

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February 27th, 2013 at 10:43 PM
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Just enjoy the ride.

Our beloved basketball team is good.  They're not a dominant force nor do they display the type of drive and hunger that makes me think they are championship caliber.  I'm going to reserve judgement until after the B1G tourney is over.  I suggest that everyone get off of the rollercoaster and realize that these KIDS simply do not have the mental toughness to do what we expect them to.  THey aren't professionals.  This Michigan team succumbs to hostile crowds and momentum swings and poor personnel decisions.  THey are very mortal and will be in a dogfight in the tourney every game...no matter what seed they end up with.  Belein is a good coach but he has definitely dropped the ball in several contests this year. This team needs to improve simple and plain.  They are not good enough or disciplined right now to deserve a B1G championship or a #1 seed.  Maybe they can get there in a few short weeks.  They definitely arent there now.  I won't be surprised to see them win or lose the rest of the way.  They are a true wildcard squad.  Love em to death but I have to say that my confidence in their ability to win a championship is shattered.  The truth is....this team misses WINNERS like NOVAK and DOUGLASS.  Those guys werent 5*s but theyre were winners......leaders and they gave a shit every game.  It's time some leaders step up on this squad.  Its time they stop looking at their draft status and focus.  Belein has a big challenge ahead of him.  Lets try to stay positive despite this epic letdown.  This team can still beat anyone. 

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February 27th, 2013 at 10:45 PM
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An embarrassing defeat. No

An embarrassing defeat. No one deserved to wear the shirt tonight. No leadership, no accountability.

Stauskas had a shocker, too reckless with the ball. Turned it over numerous times and let the opposing player glide in for a layup. Someone needs to get in his face and let him know that's NOT okay.

GR3 had a disastrous last three minutes, couldn't squeeze a loose ball he had in his hands, then missed a lay-up before bricking a three...

Also would like Bellein to take a technical or two once and a while. Tonight would have been perfect when we were up 15 and Penn State hit seven straight free throws, with the refs treating Colella like he was Jordan.

Just swallow the tech there before it gets out of hand.

Brutal performance, this team is going to get upset early in the tournament.

 

 

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February 27th, 2013 at 10:49 PM
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Stauskas

Needs to sit. Plain and simple. Start both Morgan and McGary. At least they seem to somewhat care about playing D.

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:32 PM
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Ball Handlers

I actually prefer the lineup when Burke and Albrecht are on the floor together.  It takes pressure off Burke without too many "oh crap" moments and Spike seems like he at least knows how to play defense.

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February 27th, 2013 at 10:45 PM
#1808
steve sharik
Joined: 08/08/2009
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Death From Above

Yeah, that's about right.  Never has a thread been more appropriately titled.  

Evan Turner, John Gasser, Ben Brust...

Add Jermaine Marshall to the list.  31.5%  3pt shooter goes 6/10 against us.

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:30 PM
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Spontaneous Com...
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I can shoot 6-10

When I'm wide open. fundamental defensive principle - make the guy you are checking feel uncomfortable by forcing him to do what he doesn't like to do. That is something we suck at.

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February 27th, 2013 at 10:51 PM
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Tkriz
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Neutral court

Another neutral court comment might cause me to lose it.

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February 27th, 2013 at 10:54 PM
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SERIOUSLY WTF Losing this

SERIOUSLY WTF Losing this fucking game wasn't about home or away or neutral court. Why don't people get that?!

We play and have played piss poor on D. Stauskas especially

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:02 PM
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What the hell just happened?

T_T

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:18 PM
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Leadership

I know when I saw JB, the X's O's coach, turn red from yelling @ Stauskas at the timeout that the problem goes bigger than X's and O's. It's a young team and we all realize that, but someone has to step up.

Who is this guy on this year's team?

 

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZCeKp5PpYsfeature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:18 PM
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I give up

I can't even freakin embed video tonight

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:08 PM
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unfortunately

you know i was gonna say yesterday ....

everytime we have had a clear road ahead of us (whether in bball or fball) late in the season we have muddled it up in the last 2-3 years. Just sounds like underconfidence to me....there is no other way to explain it.....btw go ahead and negbang it.

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:09 PM
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No Focus, Effort or Conditioning

The lack of focus and effort on D is truly pathetic.  At this point, I would prefer to see Novak and Douglas back on the court, at least you could see and feel the energy and effort 100% of the time.  

This team has a ton of talent, and they play soft, lack mental toughness and really lack the ability to dig down deep.  I would also seriously start to question either the focus on conditioning or the use of the bench.  If the players cannot put the effort into D, they neeed to rotate more often.  I would rather see someone less talented on the court giving 100%, than continue to watch lackidasical effort on rebounding and defense....with their level of talent it really is beginning to piss me off.  

I see too many guys starting to bolt out trying to get on the break vs. blocking out putting in the effort to stop second shots.  I really wonder just how much effort and focus is placed on any of these items in practice vs. getting repetition on shooting.  Indiana, MSU and OSU simple play much more physically and with more mental toughness....and this should have been a 15-20 point win minimum with the talent difference, and the whole they are young, lesson learned, etc is just BS.  Getting outhustled by players without the same level of talent is becoming a habit, not an exception.

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:11 PM
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i want to believe that this

i want to believe that this will make us stronger but i think we are too young and soft for that to happen...if it does that will be a HELL of a coaching job.  i have to think that just like none of us believe in this team anymore the team doesn't either.  maybe trey and morgan and MAYBE, big maybe, hardaway does, but there is no way the young guys can withstand this...the heartbreaker against wisco, the blowout to sparty, and now this?  the swag is gone.  if it comes back somehow the coaches and leaders (not really sure who they are) will have done an incredible job with bringing the youngsters back from the edge.

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:20 PM
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I just thought about this. It

I just thought about this. It seems like the teams who always seem to do great things either have completely elite talent (Kentucky last year) or who have been to hell and back (and therefore the determination and willpower). We are currently in hell. I don't think we were in hell after the Wiscy/MSU game because we could excuse that on our brutal schedule/lucky half-court shot.

Now, we have no excuse. We've basically hit rock bottom. If we can someway, somehow, come back from this; if there is one or two guys on our team who rise up and lead this team down the next three games; we're in a good state I believe to do great things in the tournment because we've been to the dark places and know how to come back.

If there is any positive I can get from this loss, is that this will hopefully train/season us for the tournament. Hopefully someone on the team steps up into that leader role

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:14 PM
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Tkriz
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Stu

Anither Stu reference might cause me to lose it too. Love him cause he's a past Michigan guy, but come on.

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:14 PM
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To me, it looks like too many

To me, it looks like too many guys are trying out for the NBA.  I don't feel any chemistry among the players.

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:19 PM
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HollywoodHokeHogan
Joined: 02/12/2011
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Couple thoughts:

                  1.  The last 40 seconds was the worse coach-team dynamic I have seen at Michigan since RR's final game.  You HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER TO FOUL OR STEAL IMMEDIATELY.  It shouldn't even be a decision you make then and there on the court, it should be part of what you practice, .e.g if there is 1 minute left, we play D/ if there is less than 35 seconds we foul immediately/ if there is 59-36 seconds left we try for a steal in the first 8 seconds and then foul.  Instead the team just stood there.  They didn't try to steal or foul.  I honestly thought they were going to let PSU dribble out the clock because that's what they seemed to be doing.  That's inexcusable in a HS team. 

2.  I think we can put the whole, "once big bad ass Jo-Mo is back in the hizzy we're going to be awesomzz at d-fence dudz!!"  theory to rest.  He's a good defender, but the way the perimeter players are playing it would take fucking Bill Russell to fix it.  He's also a very limited offense player, just like every post player at Michigan in what seems like forever (Sims was ok offensely, I guess).  Also, he's terrible at free throws.

3.  I think this blog needs a new Game-Stauskas .gif.  It should have an opposing player making a wide open three as Stauskas stands, arms down at his sides, looking at the teammate right next to him who is screaming "FUCKING SWITCH!!"   This team switches almost every goddamn pick on the perimeter anyway, so it shouldn't be that hard. 

That might be a bit harsh, but he's fast becoming my least favorite player on the team.  He is really just a jump shooter because he can't finish in any sort of traffic (he managed a charge one on one with a defender tonight).  He's prone to jacking up wild shots.  His defense is bad and his passing is inconsistent.  Oh, and his handle is mediocre to the point where I get nervous whenever he handles the ball.    He'll improve on all of this as he gets older, of course, but he may well end up a mere chucker.

4.  Bad defense is contagious.  When somebody is crap, everyone does subtle things to try and compensate, like watching his man while your guy cuts to the basket.

5.  I've still never seen Caris LeVert do anything to impress on defense other than managing to touch an opposing player with the absolute minium amount of force needed to draw a foul.

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February 28th, 2013 at 12:14 AM
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I think you make an excellent

I think you make an excellent and underrated point with #4.  Players are constantly anticipating defensive breakdowns, and that makes it really hard to play well as a cohesive unit.

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:20 PM
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33-12

I believe (if I can still add correctly) that Penn State closed on a 33-12 run. 33-12!! THIRTY THREE TO TWELVE. How humiliating is that

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:30 PM
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Goblueman
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PSU

scored on 17 of their last 21 possesions,that pretty much sums it up.

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:34 PM
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It's a nice dream

But anyone who thinks this team has a chance to get to a Final Four is kidding themselves. They have demonstrated throughout the season an absolute lack of mental tenacity. So unless everyone rolls over for us or unless we miraculously draw 4 teams that are afraid to play defense there is no way we win 4 games against teams that really want to beat us.

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:28 PM
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Okay...

So, after stealthily trying to watch the game while at work and succeeding, only to watch us lose to Penn State, I almost lost my shit. At work. I literally had to go outside and calm the fuck down.

This probably isn't the place, but I think I'm gonna relax about my sports teams for a while. The wins don't feel as great and the losses feel worse. I'll still get my MGoBlog fix every day, but if I've got something else to do and a game is on, I'll check the score when I can. If I'm not doing anything and the game is on television, I'll watch.

Can't live and die with every shot, pass, pitch for eight damn teams (Michigan FB, Michigan BB, Michigan Hockey, Bulls, Blackhawks, Cubs, Bears, USA Soccer) anymore.

I just can't.

Good luck guys.

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:39 PM
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UM Indy
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Your Problem

is the Cubs. ;)

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February 28th, 2013 at 12:10 AM
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dcmaizeandblue
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If you do figure out the

If you do figure out the mystical secret of relaxing about sports teams please share it with the rest of us. My wife said she only signed up for four months of me being a nutcase.

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February 28th, 2013 at 12:34 AM
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I agree.  Michigan athletics

I agree.  Michigan athletics in general are becoming too difficult to follow religiously.  We never win big games and too often make for embarassing headlines.  Our rivals have dominated us recently, and neither major program is elite right now.  Time to put sports on the backburner for a while.

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February 28th, 2013 at 12:46 AM
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EZ Bud
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You're right. After tonight,

You're right. After tonight, I felt like telling my friends "I think I'll sit next season out." That loss made me feel rage. It's just getting to be too much.

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February 28th, 2013 at 1:07 AM
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I'm in the same boat.  It's

I'm in the same boat.  It's nice knowing I'm not the only one.

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February 28th, 2013 at 12:12 AM
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I can't believe we were

I can't believe we were ranked in the top 5 and then proceeded to lose to App, er, Penn State.

 

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February 28th, 2013 at 3:44 AM
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My feelings on schools with

My feelings on schools with the word "State" in the title have not changed one iota in the last 24 hours.

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February 28th, 2013 at 12:45 AM
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Insert your favorite Michigan

Insert your favorite Michigan athletes and coaches were appropriate and this is what I wanted to yell like after the game

 

It was an absolute CHOKEJOB!...I'm talking!

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February 28th, 2013 at 12:45 AM
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At least we controlled our

At least we controlled our own destiny for a little bit. 

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February 28th, 2013 at 12:54 AM
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MGoPoints: 14365
If you lose to a more

If you lose to a more talented team, fine.  But when you lose to a crappy team giving low effort - that's not fine.  That's not Michigan and Bo would not be proud.  When you get a chance to win the Big 10 you have to play with energy.  Heck, it's not easy to win the frickin league.

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February 28th, 2013 at 1:18 AM
#1837
offskooring
Joined: 08/01/2009
MGoPoints: 436
ifmy kid were  a"contributer"

ifmy kid were  a"contributer" on this team right now i would callhis ass to find out where his head is

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February 28th, 2013 at 8:23 AM
#1838
blueblueblue
Joined: 12/29/2008
MGoPoints: 6374
I will always want Michigan

I will always want Michigan to win, but its really hard to give a shit about a team that doesnt seem to give a shit. 

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February 28th, 2013 at 9:35 AM
#1839
saveferris
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Joined: 07/02/2009
MGoPoints: 15712
Poor Seth....

Per Seth on the "Guess the Score, Win Stuff" article with regards to looking past the Penn State game to get score predictions for the game against the Spartans on Sunday...

 

Nothing but a sibling affair, 4 o'clock Sunday. If we lose to Penn State tonight you have my permission to shoot me.

 

Awwww, hell.  I can't do it.  We'll just go with Shooter McGavin finger guns this time.  But next time...Seth....dude.

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February 28th, 2013 at 9:56 AM
#1840
WhoopinStick
Joined: 03/16/2010
MGoPoints: 3575
Hurts but not the end of the world

This loss hurts, but it's not the end of the world (or the team) as some woudl have you think.

I had a bad feeling about this game before it started.  Penn State had been playing by far its best basketball lately and this was a trap game for UM.  With IU losing, MSU coming to town, and PSU having not won a conference game it would have been easy to not be totally fired up for this game. 

PSU played one of its better games UM didn't.  These things happen.  Penn State is not a good shooting team, UM is - but in this game UM went 5-20 from 3 point range, PSU went 10-20.  That's a 15 point swing in favor of the team that usually doesn't shoot that well.  UM usually doesn't turn the ball over.  In this game UM had 15 turnovers to 13 assists.  PSU had 9 turnovers to 15 assists.   Burke finally looked human having more turnovers in this game then in the last 5 combined.   Lastly, PSU had committed the most fouls in the league and UM the fewest.  In this one UM had 21 fouls, PSU had 17.  

Yeah this game hurts, but it's also what makes sports great - on any given day the little guy can have a great game and pull the upset.  I wish it  wouldn't have happened against UM but this is not the end of the world, and it doesn't mean our team has totally lost it and it doesn't mean that Coach B has lost the team.

Go Blue, Beat Sparty! 

 

 

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February 28th, 2013 at 10:07 AM
#1841
boknewbest
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Joined: 02/27/2013
MGoPoints: 16
seeding

Hello 5-seed and loss to a 12 in the first round!   wtf.

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February 28th, 2013 at 12:12 PM
#1842
Hannibal.
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Joined: 09/09/2008
MGoPoints: 6297
Here's a look on the bright

Here's a look on the bright side...

At least MSU and OSU have one less quality victory on their season.

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