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February 27th, 2013 at 10:29 PM | There must be (Score:1)
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something positive from tonight? Nah, just a load of crap.

"Everybody wants to be a hero, so to speak.  But it takes everybody."  - Charles Woodson

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February 27th, 2013 at 10:30 PM | Just because Beilein (Score:4 Normal)
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has greatly improved this program, doesn't mean it's unfair to question him.  And right now, there's a hell of a lot that deserves questioning.

1. Does this team ever spend any time practicing against a full court press??  For god's sake, we couldn't handle the vaunted Penn State press!  Every time a team presses us, we look like we've never seen this kind of thing before.  With Burke at the point, there's no reason we shouldn't be making teams pay for trying to press us.  Instead, IF we get it past half court, we wait for the defense to set up, instead of attacking.

2. Going along with that theme...our offense is pretty decent, but it could be even better.  We should be pushing it upcourt every chance we get.  That's when guys like GR3 and McGary are most effective.  Off makes, off misses, we should be trying to push the tempo.

3. I HATE the way our big guys are taught to hedge and occasionally trap out top.  We pick up tons of fouls 30 feet from the basket, and McGary and Horford are slow to get back to their man.  When we do try and "trap" out top, it's the most token trap ever.  If you're going to commit two guys 30 feet from the hoop, then go for the steal!  Rip the ball away!  Instead, they give the guy space and let him survey the court for a 4-on-3 advantage.

There's a lot of other stuff, but I just don't have the energy...

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February 27th, 2013 at 10:30 PM | (No subject) (Score:5 Normal)
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February 27th, 2013 at 10:31 PM | And (Score:4 Normal)
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Miami lost to wake. It's sports anyone can win any day, that's y we love it.....

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February 27th, 2013 at 10:56 PM | ...only that's why I hate it right now (Score:4 Normal)
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February 27th, 2013 at 10:57 PM | PSU != Wake (Score:4 Normal)
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PSU != Wake

Class of 2008 and 2009

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February 27th, 2013 at 10:32 PM | fucking bizarro world. (Score:1)
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between our football teams inability to play on the road and Now the basketball team picking up the habit I am losing all of the hair on my head...

what a weak, pathetic, performance.  We need to get our shit together fast. And with IU and MSU coming up this could go very poorly.

jdon

 

We are the dead.

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February 27th, 2013 at 10:46 PM | Our football team's road woes (Score:4 Normal)
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Our football team's road woes from this season are much more excusable than our basketball team's.



Not much shame in losing to two undefeated teams and the national champion on the road when your coach is in his second year.

It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:17 PM | If You're A UM Alum/Fan And Losing Hair Now... (Score:2)
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...wait until you hit your 40's. You'll easily qualify tor the part of Picard in any off-Broadway Star Trek production.

L.S.A. '88

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February 27th, 2013 at 10:36 PM | Hack us or play tough d on us... (Score:2 Normal)
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We will lose. We have a bunch of lanky and young guys who don't get dirty on the ground. When you get beat down and hacked, you start executing and shooting the way we did the last three minutes of the game. I had a " taping" incident and only taped that time period. When I turned it in we were tied. We looked like the team that was going to lose and fulfilled that prophecy. Tired, exhausted, passive, not confident....after basically a week off. wtf. Unbelievable.

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February 27th, 2013 at 10:39 PM | Chalk up two more losses (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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Chalk up two more losses heading into the Big Ten tournament, no first-round bye, probably a win then a loss, and a, what, 5-6 seed in March Madness?

This team was 18-0 at one point.  They've either squandered the season or they weren't that good to begin with.

~Herm

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February 27th, 2013 at 10:40 PM | limited focus,effort and energy =loss (Score:1)
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the gap between the top and bottom in big ten is close enough that even these obvious upsets are unable to avoided.

michigan had "it"  in december but do not now. the important question,  can this team be focused and energized for the important games coming up?

pbmd

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February 27th, 2013 at 10:44 PM | Penn State was 0-14.  You (Score:2 Normal)
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Penn State was 0-14.  You can't possibly say that there isn't a MASSIVE gap between them and the top 1/2 of the Big Ten.  This was a horrible loss and the team has earned the right to be questioned if they even deserve to be ranked.  Exactly who has this team beaten?

~Herm

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February 27th, 2013 at 10:58 PM | Michigan (Score:3 Normal)
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...sadly

Which begs the question, did we lose to a good team tonight?

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February 27th, 2013 at 10:43 PM | On the plus side guys, Denard (Score:5 Normal)
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On the plus side guys, Denard is up by 6k votes for the cover vote.

It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk

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February 27th, 2013 at 10:43 PM | Just enjoy the ride. (Score:0 Normal)
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Our beloved basketball team is good.  They're not a dominant force nor do they display the type of drive and hunger that makes me think they are championship caliber.  I'm going to reserve judgement until after the B1G tourney is over.  I suggest that everyone get off of the rollercoaster and realize that these KIDS simply do not have the mental toughness to do what we expect them to.  THey aren't professionals.  This Michigan team succumbs to hostile crowds and momentum swings and poor personnel decisions.  THey are very mortal and will be in a dogfight in the tourney every game...no matter what seed they end up with.  Belein is a good coach but he has definitely dropped the ball in several contests this year. This team needs to improve simple and plain.  They are not good enough or disciplined right now to deserve a B1G championship or a #1 seed.  Maybe they can get there in a few short weeks.  They definitely arent there now.  I won't be surprised to see them win or lose the rest of the way.  They are a true wildcard squad.  Love em to death but I have to say that my confidence in their ability to win a championship is shattered.  The truth is....this team misses WINNERS like NOVAK and DOUGLASS.  Those guys werent 5*s but theyre were winners......leaders and they gave a shit every game.  It's time some leaders step up on this squad.  Its time they stop looking at their draft status and focus.  Belein has a big challenge ahead of him.  Lets try to stay positive despite this epic letdown.  This team can still beat anyone. 

Go Blue

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February 27th, 2013 at 10:45 PM | An embarrassing defeat. No (Score:4 Normal)
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An embarrassing defeat. No one deserved to wear the shirt tonight. No leadership, no accountability.

Stauskas had a shocker, too reckless with the ball. Turned it over numerous times and let the opposing player glide in for a layup. Someone needs to get in his face and let him know that's NOT okay.

GR3 had a disastrous last three minutes, couldn't squeeze a loose ball he had in his hands, then missed a lay-up before bricking a three...

Also would like Bellein to take a technical or two once and a while. Tonight would have been perfect when we were up 15 and Penn State hit seven straight free throws, with the refs treating Colella like he was Jordan.

Just swallow the tech there before it gets out of hand.

Brutal performance, this team is going to get upset early in the tournament.

 

 

Buy the ticket, take the ride.

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February 27th, 2013 at 10:49 PM | Stauskas (Score:5 Normal)
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Needs to sit. Plain and simple. Start both Morgan and McGary. At least they seem to somewhat care about playing D.

"Better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football" -- John Heisman

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:32 PM | Ball Handlers (Score:1)
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I actually prefer the lineup when Burke and Albrecht are on the floor together.  It takes pressure off Burke without too many "oh crap" moments and Spike seems like he at least knows how to play defense.

 

 

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February 27th, 2013 at 10:45 PM | Death From Above (Score:1 Normal)
cps2010
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Yeah, that's about right.  Never has a thread been more appropriately titled.  

Evan Turner, John Gasser, Ben Brust...

Add Jermaine Marshall to the list.  31.5%  3pt shooter goes 6/10 against us.

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:30 PM | I can shoot 6-10 (Score:3 Normal)
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When I'm wide open. fundamental defensive principle - make the guy you are checking feel uncomfortable by forcing him to do what he doesn't like to do. That is something we suck at.

"close your mouth and open your mind" - Al Borges

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February 27th, 2013 at 10:51 PM | Neutral court (Score:4 Normal)
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Another neutral court comment might cause me to lose it.

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February 27th, 2013 at 10:54 PM | SERIOUSLY WTF Losing this (Score:2 Normal)
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SERIOUSLY WTF Losing this fucking game wasn't about home or away or neutral court. Why don't people get that?!

We play and have played piss poor on D. Stauskas especially

Class of 2008 and 2009

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:02 PM | What the hell just happened? (Score:1)
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T_T

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:18 PM | Leadership (Score:2 Normal)
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I know when I saw JB, the X's O's coach, turn red from yelling @ Stauskas at the timeout that the problem goes bigger than X's and O's. It's a young team and we all realize that, but someone has to step up.

Who is this guy on this year's team?

 

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:18 PM | I give up (Score:2 Funny)
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I can't even freakin embed video tonight

 

 

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:08 PM | unfortunately (Score:0 Normal)
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you know i was gonna say yesterday ....

everytime we have had a clear road ahead of us (whether in bball or fball) late in the season we have muddled it up in the last 2-3 years. Just sounds like underconfidence to me....there is no other way to explain it.....btw go ahead and negbang it.

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:09 PM | No Focus, Effort or Conditioning (Score:1)
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The lack of focus and effort on D is truly pathetic.  At this point, I would prefer to see Novak and Douglas back on the court, at least you could see and feel the energy and effort 100% of the time.  

This team has a ton of talent, and they play soft, lack mental toughness and really lack the ability to dig down deep.  I would also seriously start to question either the focus on conditioning or the use of the bench.  If the players cannot put the effort into D, they neeed to rotate more often.  I would rather see someone less talented on the court giving 100%, than continue to watch lackidasical effort on rebounding and defense....with their level of talent it really is beginning to piss me off.  

I see too many guys starting to bolt out trying to get on the break vs. blocking out putting in the effort to stop second shots.  I really wonder just how much effort and focus is placed on any of these items in practice vs. getting repetition on shooting.  Indiana, MSU and OSU simple play much more physically and with more mental toughness....and this should have been a 15-20 point win minimum with the talent difference, and the whole they are young, lesson learned, etc is just BS.  Getting outhustled by players without the same level of talent is becoming a habit, not an exception.

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:11 PM | i want to believe that this (Score:3 Normal)
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i want to believe that this will make us stronger but i think we are too young and soft for that to happen...if it does that will be a HELL of a coaching job.  i have to think that just like none of us believe in this team anymore the team doesn't either.  maybe trey and morgan and MAYBE, big maybe, hardaway does, but there is no way the young guys can withstand this...the heartbreaker against wisco, the blowout to sparty, and now this?  the swag is gone.  if it comes back somehow the coaches and leaders (not really sure who they are) will have done an incredible job with bringing the youngsters back from the edge.

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:20 PM | I just thought about this. It (Score:2 Normal)
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I just thought about this. It seems like the teams who always seem to do great things either have completely elite talent (Kentucky last year) or who have been to hell and back (and therefore the determination and willpower). We are currently in hell. I don't think we were in hell after the Wiscy/MSU game because we could excuse that on our brutal schedule/lucky half-court shot.

Now, we have no excuse. We've basically hit rock bottom. If we can someway, somehow, come back from this; if there is one or two guys on our team who rise up and lead this team down the next three games; we're in a good state I believe to do great things in the tournment because we've been to the dark places and know how to come back.

If there is any positive I can get from this loss, is that this will hopefully train/season us for the tournament. Hopefully someone on the team steps up into that leader role

Class of 2008 and 2009

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:14 PM | Stu (Score:1)
Tkriz
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Anither Stu reference might cause me to lose it too. Love him cause he's a past Michigan guy, but come on.

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:14 PM | To me, it looks like too many (Score:3 Normal)
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To me, it looks like too many guys are trying out for the NBA.  I don't feel any chemistry among the players.

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:19 PM | Couple thoughts: (Score:5 Normal)
HollywoodHokeHogan
Joined: 02/12/2011
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                  1.  The last 40 seconds was the worse coach-team dynamic I have seen at Michigan since RR's final game.  You HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER TO FOUL OR STEAL IMMEDIATELY.  It shouldn't even be a decision you make then and there on the court, it should be part of what you practice, .e.g if there is 1 minute left, we play D/ if there is less than 35 seconds we foul immediately/ if there is 59-36 seconds left we try for a steal in the first 8 seconds and then foul.  Instead the team just stood there.  They didn't try to steal or foul.  I honestly thought they were going to let PSU dribble out the clock because that's what they seemed to be doing.  That's inexcusable in a HS team. 

2.  I think we can put the whole, "once big bad ass Jo-Mo is back in the hizzy we're going to be awesomzz at d-fence dudz!!"  theory to rest.  He's a good defender, but the way the perimeter players are playing it would take fucking Bill Russell to fix it.  He's also a very limited offense player, just like every post player at Michigan in what seems like forever (Sims was ok offensely, I guess).  Also, he's terrible at free throws.

3.  I think this blog needs a new Game-Stauskas .gif.  It should have an opposing player making a wide open three as Stauskas stands, arms down at his sides, looking at the teammate right next to him who is screaming "FUCKING SWITCH!!"   This team switches almost every goddamn pick on the perimeter anyway, so it shouldn't be that hard. 

That might be a bit harsh, but he's fast becoming my least favorite player on the team.  He is really just a jump shooter because he can't finish in any sort of traffic (he managed a charge one on one with a defender tonight).  He's prone to jacking up wild shots.  His defense is bad and his passing is inconsistent.  Oh, and his handle is mediocre to the point where I get nervous whenever he handles the ball.    He'll improve on all of this as he gets older, of course, but he may well end up a mere chucker.

4.  Bad defense is contagious.  When somebody is crap, everyone does subtle things to try and compensate, like watching his man while your guy cuts to the basket.

5.  I've still never seen Caris LeVert do anything to impress on defense other than managing to touch an opposing player with the absolute minium amount of force needed to draw a foul.

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February 28th, 2013 at 12:14 AM | I think you make an excellent (Score:1)
TheGhostofYost
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I think you make an excellent and underrated point with #4.  Players are constantly anticipating defensive breakdowns, and that makes it really hard to play well as a cohesive unit.

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:20 PM | 33-12 (Score:5 Normal)
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I believe (if I can still add correctly) that Penn State closed on a 33-12 run. 33-12!! THIRTY THREE TO TWELVE. How humiliating is that

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:30 PM | PSU (Score:1)
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scored on 17 of their last 21 possesions,that pretty much sums it up.

Goblueman-Wayne,Mich

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:23 PM | Bye bye 1 seed. Of all the (Score:1)
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Bye bye 1 seed. Of all the teams to lose to PSU didn't even seem like an option it's awful but regardless this team has a little time left to make a run. Lets hope this loss lights a fire under their ass.



If little bro lost this game the university may be on fire and not just couches. Thank goodness we just get on a blog and reasonably dissect the poor play. C

There is god, there is family, and then there is MICHIGAN FOOTBALL

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:34 PM | It's a nice dream (Score:1)
Spontaneous Com...
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But anyone who thinks this team has a chance to get to a Final Four is kidding themselves. They have demonstrated throughout the season an absolute lack of mental tenacity. So unless everyone rolls over for us or unless we miraculously draw 4 teams that are afraid to play defense there is no way we win 4 games against teams that really want to beat us.

"close your mouth and open your mind" - Al Borges

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:48 PM | I was thinking the same exact (Score:1)
WolverineFanatic6
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I was thinking the same exact thing. Agree 100%

There is god, there is family, and then there is MICHIGAN FOOTBALL

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:28 PM | Okay... (Score:4 Normal)
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So, after stealthily trying to watch the game while at work and succeeding, only to watch us lose to Penn State, I almost lost my shit. At work. I literally had to go outside and calm the fuck down.

This probably isn't the place, but I think I'm gonna relax about my sports teams for a while. The wins don't feel as great and the losses feel worse. I'll still get my MGoBlog fix every day, but if I've got something else to do and a game is on, I'll check the score when I can. If I'm not doing anything and the game is on television, I'll watch.

Can't live and die with every shot, pass, pitch for eight damn teams (Michigan FB, Michigan BB, Michigan Hockey, Bulls, Blackhawks, Cubs, Bears, USA Soccer) anymore.

I just can't.

Good luck guys.



 

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:39 PM | Your Problem (Score:2)
UM Indy
Joined: 03/05/2009
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is the Cubs. ;)

"Better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football" -- John Heisman

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February 28th, 2013 at 12:10 AM | If you do figure out the (Score:4 Normal)
dcmaizeandblue
Joined: 04/01/2010
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If you do figure out the mystical secret of relaxing about sports teams please share it with the rest of us. My wife said she only signed up for four months of me being a nutcase.

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February 28th, 2013 at 12:34 AM | I agree.  Michigan athletics (Score:3 Normal)
TheGhostofYost
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I agree.  Michigan athletics in general are becoming too difficult to follow religiously.  We never win big games and too often make for embarassing headlines.  Our rivals have dominated us recently, and neither major program is elite right now.  Time to put sports on the backburner for a while.

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February 28th, 2013 at 12:46 AM | You're right. After tonight, (Score:2 Normal)
EZ Bud
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You're right. After tonight, I felt like telling my friends "I think I'll sit next season out." That loss made me feel rage. It's just getting to be too much.

This is MICHIGAN

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February 28th, 2013 at 1:07 AM | I'm in the same boat.  It's (Score:3 Normal)
meechiganroses
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I'm in the same boat.  It's nice knowing I'm not the only one.

I SAID "M" AS IN MANCY...

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February 27th, 2013 at 11:59 PM | Something stinks (Score:-1 Trolling)
PasadenaFan
Joined: 10/31/2010
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As I said before this BB team stinks. Lost to MSU by 25 or so.

All bullshitters talking about #1 or #2 seeds need to be checked. Including WTKA

REEK!

UM fans need to let the teams win before anointing

Like I said before: win the big games, beat OSU and win your bowl games. Stop talking about
Maize jerseys and #1 seeds. Earn it bitches

And win the little games too!

all I hear is Trey Burke this and that. Who gives a F!? Team sucks

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February 28th, 2013 at 12:12 AM | I can't believe we were (Score:2)
M-Dog
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I can't believe we were ranked in the top 5 and then proceeded to lose to App, er, Penn State.

 

M'Dog

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February 28th, 2013 at 3:44 AM | My feelings on schools with (Score:1)
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My feelings on schools with the word "State" in the title have not changed one iota in the last 24 hours.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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February 28th, 2013 at 12:45 AM | Insert your favorite Michigan (Score:2)
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Insert your favorite Michigan athletes and coaches were appropriate and this is what I wanted to yell like after the game

 

It was an absolute CHOKEJOB!...I'm talking!

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February 28th, 2013 at 12:45 AM | At least we controlled our (Score:5 Normal)
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At least we controlled our own destiny for a little bit. 

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.

- Vince Lombardi

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