for so many different reasons. SHE-HULK SMASH!
at least it's not just us?
for so many different reasons. SHE-HULK SMASH!
Has had an immense struggle in closing out games all season. There were several games early in the season on which we were lucky to escape. It's finally come to fruition tonight and that's on the coaching staff.
At least our expectations have become high of the program that we can feel disappointed when we drop from one seed and conference championship talk. I know it may not be what people want to think about -- I'm content to be a grumpy the rest of the night too -- but it's good that we've come so far, and to have so much on the line. A few short years ago, we were (kind of) like Penn State was tonight, nobody talked about us unless we had a huge upset, but now we're on the national scene.
Since complaining about the defense and lack of emotion has been covered, I would like to harp on how horrible the half-court offense has been (especially at the end of games - last 10min). Poor ball movement, no easy looks, and it's all on Burke. Is this team (especially the freshmen) just too worn down to compete at the end of games?
Sucks that our national title window is so narrow since Burke, THJ, and GRIII will be leaving soon. We won't have true senior veterans until 2016 when this current freshman class matures. Just hope Irvin and Walton can stay more than 2 years and we keep recruiting like we have been.
We probably wont see a team this talented for 25 years and that sucks because you just dont get this opportunity too often (Legit POY candidate with a solid & complementing rotation)
The main issue with his team is its lacks basketball leadership. Trey is not a leader. I Don't care if I get negged to oblivion but he's not. There is no such thing as leading by example..thats a cop out bull shit line for "hes just better than his other teamates and so I guess he is a leader" Trey is great, but a leader he is not.
Players who lead by example (Tim and Trey) cant lead young players into battle. Never have been able to, never will be.
If anyone disagrees..you likely havent played high level competitve sports with solid leadership.
This team needs an on-the-court leader like Novak who can inspire the team and manipulate its emotions, its ethos.
Many of you may be calling bullshit and point to Kentucky as a team that lacked veteran leadership presence as a counter agruement. That would be true but Kentucky had John Cap. who is perhaps one of the best leaders of young men that the College game has to offer. You may think he is a slime ball, but his players love him and his ability to manipulate the ethos of his team is umatched. ( I think we now all can see how big of a deal last years Kentucky team actually was)
JB on the other hand appears average at best....Beilin has the demenour of a professor not a general.
We need a general and until we get one...we will lose games like this
EDIT: This was not a fire JB rant..JB can succeed with much better player leadership
I disagree about not seeing another team this talented. In fact, I think we'll see it in about 2-3 years. This team was, and is, overrated. THJ is as streaky as they come, Stauskas is a freshman and garbage on defense, Robinson has loads of potential but disappears and doesn't have a jump shot, and Morgan is a mediocre big man.
... I don't think we'll have anyone as good as Trey Burke again for a while.
Well then I guess it's a good thing PG isn't the only player on the floor.
could be that good and Zak Irvin is as good as, if not better than, Gary Harris. We could be better next year than this year. Talent will not be a problem for the foreseeable future.
This team is good but I would hope we will see teams more talented.
Easy to be a leader of young men when your players have salaries.
This team remind me of the Bill Frieder teams in the 80's. Have all the talent but just can't get it together. I see us losing in the second round this year unless we get our guts back. Right now we are looking at being a 5 seed in the B1G tourny which will be a loss to OSU. We need to find heart. Lots of lots of HEART. How can a young team get worst this late in the season?
People are overrating our talent. How many ballhandlers do we have? How many shotblockers? How many tough interior defenders? Heck, how many good free throw shooters?
We have one superstar, a couple other guys who are really streaky, and a few other guys that give us minutes but aren't difference-makers. If the one superstar isn't at the top of his game, we struggle. Even when he is, we still struggle sometimes because we aren't very good defensively.
I never thought in a million friggin years we'd lose to that team. Something is not right. Obviously. Youth? IDK. We gotta fix it fast or we're first or second round toast in the tourney.
1. Fast start to the game
2. Out rebound us, which is not difficult
3. Defend trey
We are I trouble come tourney time if Johnny B doesn't start throwing some chalk and erasers around in that locker room....I would be telling Robinson to start grabbing boards....that dude can jump through the roof...grab us some rebounds man!!!!!
On rebounds. He watches the shot but does not always get his body on a man
well so much for big ten champs
But it's just one game... Michigan will get it back.
this made me so much more happy :) thank you.
this made me so much more happy :) thank you.
The team is a amazing and undefeated at home. The team is 4-5 away. Obviously our problem is that the team is so young, and hardaway isn't calming the team down when they're on a bad stretch and crowd is going crazy. Trey Burke is fantastic and consistent, but he needs to involve his teams a bit more. I know he has about 7 apg, but when they're in trouble he just goes to bail out mode. He might be hot, but the TEAM is ice cold and he can fix that if he helps them get good looks.
The team is not amazing at home. They just haven't played anyone at home. Sunday is going to be ugly.
Really? Good to see we're doing our job.
Stay classy, Happy Valley. Might want to be careful when you post stuff like this as a Penn State fan. You know, given your school's recent scandal.
First time poster, long time reader
Coach B is not incompetent as some are suggesting. This was definitely a crushing loss and this teams defensive liabilities and defensive rebounding issues are certainly challenges moving forward. But, let's remember that there are 5 freshman playing significant minutes for this team and this is the most difficult conference in the country. PSU had been terrible (they have improved recently quite a bit) and they don't deserve to get to be part of this positive association with the Big 10. However, UM did win several away games against the middle of the road Big 10 team and were exceptionally close to winning at OSU and Wisconsin. The Freshman have seemed to hit somewhat of a "wall", especially defensively. All is not lost here though, match-ups are going to be a key in the tourney and could be favorable. It does feel that this fan base may have become spoiled and we take these experiences, that quite a few big time programs suffer as Chicken Little moments. Coach B is a very good, if not great coach and will help this team to get better in the near future and the long term future. I hope.
Atleast we won't be the first 1 seed to lose to a 16...hooray?
So where is Michigan ranked if they can pull of the upset on Sunday?
Might as well ask where does Kate Upton flashing me rank on my list of life experiences. Neither event will ever happen so why waste time thinking about it?
didn't get a chance to watch the game, then logging onto mgoblog before I checked the score. I see a "what are you drinking thread", pretty self explanatory. Tough loss
Just make the Sweet Sixteen at the bare minimum.
January: the Illini come to Crisler and blow us out by 20 (second loss to them that year) and the game isn't even close. I was there and the schadenfreude dwarfed this.
March '89: Final Four; IL is a 1 seed, we a 3. Michigan wins.
National Championship ensues.
While this loss was a perfect shitstorm of missed opportunities, poor officiating, etc.
There is more BB to be played and March Madness is exactly that.
Do I expect a NC this year? No.
But I'll take this team's performance over most recent results.
I get your point, but schadenfreude is guilty pleasure. I can't imagine there was much of it in Crisler that day.
...you would have been amazed at the number of Illinois fans. Not only did it seem they outnumbered us, but they had better seats. That Michigan team was not highly regarded in the polls or by the home faithful.
So yes, there was schadenfreude o' plenty on that day at Crisler.
You are comparing a loss to a supremely talented team that went to the Final Four to a loss to a team that had lost its last 18 conference games! Do you know how ridiculous this attempt at "perspective" is?
We had the talent and believed we would win that game. Also, as a reminder that, even though disappointment exists after this loss, positive things are still possible for this team, dude.
I doubt that. If a team can't, or refuses to play defense... the odds of positive things happening, are slim, very slim.
Losing to '89 Illinois team in no way, shape or form compares to losing to '13 Penn St team.
Hmmm, let's see. Kenny Battle, Kendall Gill, Stephen Bardo, Nick Anderson compared to a team without its best player and ... Jermaine Marshall?
something positive from tonight? Nah, just a load of crap.
has greatly improved this program, doesn't mean it's unfair to question him. And right now, there's a hell of a lot that deserves questioning.
1. Does this team ever spend any time practicing against a full court press?? For god's sake, we couldn't handle the vaunted Penn State press! Every time a team presses us, we look like we've never seen this kind of thing before. With Burke at the point, there's no reason we shouldn't be making teams pay for trying to press us. Instead, IF we get it past half court, we wait for the defense to set up, instead of attacking.
2. Going along with that theme...our offense is pretty decent, but it could be even better. We should be pushing it upcourt every chance we get. That's when guys like GR3 and McGary are most effective. Off makes, off misses, we should be trying to push the tempo.
3. I HATE the way our big guys are taught to hedge and occasionally trap out top. We pick up tons of fouls 30 feet from the basket, and McGary and Horford are slow to get back to their man. When we do try and "trap" out top, it's the most token trap ever. If you're going to commit two guys 30 feet from the hoop, then go for the steal! Rip the ball away! Instead, they give the guy space and let him survey the court for a 4-on-3 advantage.
There's a lot of other stuff, but I just don't have the energy...
Miami lost to wake. It's sports anyone can win any day, that's y we love it.....
PSU != Wake
between our football teams inability to play on the road and Now the basketball team picking up the habit I am losing all of the hair on my head...
what a weak, pathetic, performance. We need to get our shit together fast. And with IU and MSU coming up this could go very poorly.
Our football team's road woes from this season are much more excusable than our basketball team's.
Not much shame in losing to two undefeated teams and the national champion on the road when your coach is in his second year.
...wait until you hit your 40's. You'll easily qualify tor the part of Picard in any off-Broadway Star Trek production.
We will lose. We have a bunch of lanky and young guys who don't get dirty on the ground. When you get beat down and hacked, you start executing and shooting the way we did the last three minutes of the game. I had a " taping" incident and only taped that time period. When I turned it in we were tied. We looked like the team that was going to lose and fulfilled that prophecy. Tired, exhausted, passive, not confident....after basically a week off. wtf. Unbelievable.
Chalk up two more losses heading into the Big Ten tournament, no first-round bye, probably a win then a loss, and a, what, 5-6 seed in March Madness?
This team was 18-0 at one point. They've either squandered the season or they weren't that good to begin with.