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Wayne Morgan Update
June 2nd, 2011 at 6:57 PM | 
If losing out on Morgan means
If losing out on Morgan means
June 2nd, 2011 at 6:57 PM |
I'm confused. The coaches
I'm confused. The coaches
I'm confused. The coaches backed off a 4 star top 150 defensive player but recently accepted a pair of generic 3 stars? Admittedly, I don't know shit about football recruiting but it seems a bit odd. Academic or character issues maybe?
I've decided to lay off the food for a while, and go on the booze.
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:00 PM |
True enough
True enough
At this point though, I trust their judgement. At the end of the day you win and lose with "your guys", so if they're confident in Standifer and Gant, I will follow suit.
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:02 PM |
Pure speculation at this point.
Pure speculation at this point.
It might be part of an ongoing effort to establish/maintain our staff's ties to key Ohio HS programs.
Abort, Retry, Fail?
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:06 PM |
Your speculation is
Your speculation is
Your speculation is incorrect.
Omnia mutantur nos et mutamur in illis.
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:07 PM |
Fair enough. What evidence
Fair enough. What evidence
Fair enough. What evidence do you have to support your statement?
Abort, Retry, Fail?
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:17 PM |
Are you asking what evidence
Are you asking what evidence
Are you asking what evidence I have that the coaches stopped recruiting a top rated player from New York to pursue a player who is good but not as well received by the scouts from various websites so they can maintain a presence in the lower regarded player's state?
Omnia mutantur nos et mutamur in illis.
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:25 PM |
You never know what's going on in the coaches' minds.
You never know what's going on in the coaches' minds.
Maybe there's a few other up-and-comers on the guy's team, or someone from the HS coach's staff knows somebody from the Michigan coaching staff. There could be any number of mitigating factors here. Maybe we just want to maintain momentum in Ohio. Who knows. I just find it hard to shut the door on some kinds of speculation as opposed to others when Ohio HS programs are producing a lot of recruits this year, and will have similar good years in the future.
Abort, Retry, Fail?
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:33 PM |
It's all good. Although
It's all good. Although
It's all good. Although Morgan was really highly touted I had wanted Wilson in this class from the first time I saw his film and heard his coach (Ricky Powers who is a former UofM football player) talk about his game and what kind of person he is. I feel like this staff won't sit on their hands for a recruit and this kind of proves that. They are setting a precedent and I love it. Get on board or we'll move on and find someone who REALLY wants to be apart of Michigan. That is my opinion, anyway.
Omnia mutantur nos et mutamur in illis.
June 3rd, 2011 at 8:00 AM |
Nosce, I agree with your assessment.
Nosce, I agree with your assessment.
I posted something similar (above, and 13 hours later!).
I LOVE the precedent...the train's leaving the station, get your arse aboard or someone else will take your seat. IMO this is why we're getting so many early commits. Pipkins and Shittu...this class goes mega-platinum with your commitments.
"I promise you we would have walked to the University of Michigan." - Brady Hoke
June 3rd, 2011 at 9:01 AM |
Is it possible that Mr.
Is it possible that Mr.
Is it possible that Mr. Wilson is a 'silent commit'?
Nobody home...
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:29 PM |
Completely OT and random...
Completely OT and random...
Completely OT and random, but did the recent addition of the third Starship Troopers movie to Netflix instant viewing put you on Casper Van Dien kick, and return you to a yearing for the good old days of at least B+ movie effects? Cause it did me.
June 3rd, 2011 at 9:18 AM |
posted from iPhone
posted from iPhone
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June 2nd, 2011 at 9:12 PM |
How about the fact
How about the fact
that Anthony Standifer is from Crete ILLINOIS...?
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:07 PM |
Gants the one that confuses me more
Gants the one that confuses me more
No offense to him, but Morgan could play Safety or CB, as potentially could Standifer. Gant, to the eyes of most, is the most athletically limited. I personally felt they should have waited until he camped to extend an offer to see if they were full with people who IMO seem to be better prospects. Maybe they didn't think Gant would commit so fast, I'm not sure.
Oh well, hope this all works out and hope the coaches get the guys they want
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:24 PM |
I smell what your steppin in..
I smell what your steppin in..
I too was very intrigued with the fact that Morgan can play both CB and S for us where Gant seems to be limited. Anyway best of luck to Wayne
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:50 PM |
not so fast, my friend
not so fast, my friend
I know what you mean about versatility, but I am looking at it a little differently. Part of what I like about Gant is that he is a true, hard hitting, run stopping safety. I get that he isn't so likely to step in at safety, but is that such a bad thing? I'd rather take two true safeties and two true corners if I have my choice, as opposed to four catch-all DBs. Let's just wait and see how this plays out - it may work out for us quite well in the end . . .
"Underwear Wearing Basement Dweller"
June 2nd, 2011 at 8:53 PM |
Part
Part
Part of what I like about Gant is that his father rocked the position in Maize and Blue and his uncle (cousin?) won the Heisman Trophy and dominated the world while playing for Michigan.
5 4 3 2 1 Touchdown!
Touchdown Billy Taylor!
Touchdown Billy Taylor!
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:43 PM |
Gant could be good
Gant could be good
and he's a legacy. You've seen Animal House. It's important for the future to stay true to your past.
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:50 PM |
Believe it or not
Believe it or not
I have seen Animal House, but I'm also a samurai from the 1800s feudal Japan. I know from experience that staying too true to your past and not looking to future leads to Meiji Restoration which leads to WWII which leads to 2 atomic bombs which leads to one of the largest technological revolutions the world has ever seen.
Samurai + Nintendo = $$$
June 3rd, 2011 at 9:30 AM |
Tip of the cap to you sir,
Tip of the cap to you sir,
Tip of the cap to you sir, but:
"The unexamined life is not worth living." Socrates.
June 2nd, 2011 at 11:44 PM |
I've seen Animal House as so
I've seen Animal House as so
I've seen Animal House as so have Braylon Edwards and Troy Woolfolk (both 3 star legacy recruits).
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:08 PM |
While you could possible make
While you could possible make
While you could possible make that argument for Gant, taking a legacy kid in OH really helps keeps relationships up. But the generic 3-star argument shouldn't work for Standifer. He's already started to gain steam in recruiting circles, and it's lucky we got him early. His film is very impressive, and the only thing that's gonna keep him from being a truly elite prospect is his speed.
June 2nd, 2011 at 8:31 PM |
@JimLahey...
@JimLahey...
I figure I'll trust GMat's talent evaluation over Allen Trieu's every day.
If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone
June 2nd, 2011 at 8:44 PM |
No doubt. But if I can't vent
No doubt. But if I can't vent
No doubt. But if I can't vent my completely uninformed opinions on high school football juniors I've never seen before then I really don't know what I'll do with my time. Besides...I am the liquor.
I've decided to lay off the food for a while, and go on the booze.
June 2nd, 2011 at 9:33 PM |
Bong in the
Bong in the
Bong in the background=excellence.
M '11
June 2nd, 2011 at 9:49 PM |
That's something you don't
That's something you don't
That's something you don't see in the Midwest every day.
Abort, Retry, Fail?
June 8th, 2011 at 4:36 AM |
recruiting shift
recruiting shift
once the ball dropped on Tresselgate Hoke and Company have seen a kink in the fence around Ohio. and if you can take talent from Ohio you should prefer it to a kid from the east coast. take that talent away from your competition. especially if Morgan doesnt go to the big ten. its strategy to lock down the recruiting scene localy and push Osu Msu Notre dame etc. it brilliant IF we get equal talent.
June 2nd, 2011 at 6:59 PM |
Hope
Hope
Can we possibly hope that this is just an amazingly clever way to re-implement the suspense of his announcement, considering the way his "silent commitment" went not-so-silent?
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:00 PM |
I was tipped off about Wilson
I was tipped off about Wilson
I was tipped off about Wilson a little while ago, I'm trying to get a hold of Ricky Powers. One of Morgan's coaches mentioned the fact that Michigan was still recruiting DB's even after Wayne's silent commitment. Mentioned as in they weren't happy about it. I'm not sure why since we all knew they have told other DB's how many they would take.
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June 2nd, 2011 at 7:05 PM |
As long as they know that he
As long as they know that he
As long as they know that he will have competition at any big time college he goes to. Maybe that's why they are pushing Rutgers.
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:07 PM |
So...
So...
Is the interest reciprocal?
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:12 PM |
Hmm, that is a bit
Hmm, that is a bit
Hmm, that is a bit interesting. When Morgan was the silent commit, Richardson was our only other DB, so wouldn't they know we were still gonna go after some more? Confusing, but oh well. I really like Wilson, espeically his protoypical size for a safety, so if we can get him, it would be OK to me. Really like Morgan though.
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:18 PM |
Unless they were under the
Unless they were under the
Unless they were under the impression that would be it for DB's. But the staff has been open with a few recruits in saying they were looking for 3-4 (maybe even 5) DBs so I'm not sure what would have happened there...
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:39 PM |
Based off of this...
Based off of this...
It seems to be a case of just deciding to move on. If you have a supposed silent commit and he keeps putting off his public announcement, that sends a message that he's having second thoughts.
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:08 PM |
Wow. They must not be too
Wow. They must not be too
Wow. They must not be too familiar with recruting and how it works.
"im saying to myself should i do it should i not. I crossed the goaline and hey...fuck it" Desmond Howard on his Heisman pose
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:11 PM |
so hes afraid of competition?
so hes afraid of competition?
if thats the case maybe its for the best
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:21 PM |
My take
My take
I think the coaches have confidence in Standifer staying at corner and wanted another sure safety in the class, bringing us to where we are at today.
I think Morgan's spot was taken by Gant. If Gant doesn't commit on Tuesday, Standifer's commitment is probably for the first safety spot, and Morgan still announces today. Then Gant ends up the one left out in the cold.
Either way I hope Wayne the best and I'm sure he will succeed wherever he goes.
EDIT: Just saw the posts saying it might have been Wayne who stepped back first (which makes more sense seeing the events with him the past few days). Still wish him the best.
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:12 PM |
Too bad
Too bad
He was probably scared off by this new investigation of Denard running drugs for a Mexican drug cartel after escaping from prison by digging a tunnel under a poster of Rita Hayworth.
/OSU 247'd
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:18 PM |
The joke of that
The joke of that
Is claims he was selling tickets for shit tons of money. Tickets to WHAT?! Michigan was bowl-less for one year and I doubt UM family Cap One tickets were stunning. What a joke
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:23 PM |
Is that really what they are
Is that really what they are
Is that really what they are claiming? That's some serious deflection right there. I guess they can't handle what is going on with osu at the moment. It's understandable.
Omnia mutantur nos et mutamur in illis.
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:27 PM |
Some idiot on Scout
Some idiot on Scout
Click the locked thread on here about it. The fact boosters would force Robinson to stay but let mallett walk is a joke in of itself
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:59 PM |
I've heard the ticket thing before
I've heard the ticket thing before
Take this FWIW, as I didn't read it myself, but my OSU-fanatic friend who religiously reads Bucknuts and OSU's Scout site said that not too long ago a poster was claiming to have purchased Denard's game tickets for a game (the OSU game?). The "forced him to stay" thing is obviously total crap...I won't be surprised, though, if OSU fans start to try to get Michigan players in trouble. That sounds a bit much as I type it, but we're talking about a bunch of lunatics.
It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra
June 2nd, 2011 at 8:40 PM |
It's like I tell my four young boys..
It's like I tell my four young boys..
when they are all whining about the other ones, "You worry about yourself." Now all you dumbass fans from that school in Ohio, go sit in the time out chair.....
“Oh Yeah, what he said forgodsakes...” - -
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June 2nd, 2011 at 11:49 PM |
4 of 'em, huh?
4 of 'em, huh?
That's the ticket!
Abort, Retry, Fail?
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:32 PM |
Wish Wayne the best.
Wish Wayne the best.
Wish Wayne the best. Hopefully he'll find a place where he is a good fit.
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:40 PM |
Just to be extra clear
Just to be extra clear
I know, I know - read the above posts, etc etc, but just so the slow among us (AKA me) can follow, am I correct in reading that UM cooled off on Wayne, then he cooled on us? Seems a little like the Ron Thompson thing, if that is the case.
Can anyone tell me anything interesting about Jarrod Wilson? I had mostly been looking at the guys that seemed more likely, Morgan and Reeves.
And good luck to you Wayne, wherever you decide to go. We would have liked you here, but you have to go where you feel comfortable.
EDIT: It's probably all over for Wilson - I see that Sparty has offered him, and they are a national power . . .
"Underwear Wearing Basement Dweller"
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:45 PM |
Haha, sillly sparty think
Haha, sillly sparty think
Haha, sillly sparty think that they are a national power...but seriously, I actually read somewhere that MSU is on his short list of top choices, and we are not. But who knows, as that was from an MSU source. Hopefully we turn heat up on him.
June 2nd, 2011 at 8:13 PM |
Sebastian Smith!
Sebastian Smith!
Woooooh!
How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:41 PM |
Nope...
Nope...
It sounds like we still wanted him, but were still recruiting other guys. He didn't like that, cooled off on us. It seems to happen every year, c'est la vie.
As for Wilson...he is a huge Safety prospect in Ohio. A lot of friends in OH are shocked that TSIO is not recruiting him. Duane Long, Buckeye blogger, loves him.
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If losing out on Morgan means snagging Wilson I think we'll all manage